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  • Ram209
    MVP
    • Feb 2003
    • 1161

    #1

    Madden looks worse on HDR next gen??

    Not sure if it's just me but I have a Samsung Q70T it does 4k 120hz but when I turn HDR off on the XBOX Madden Looks better?!??! Does anyone else notice this or is it just me?

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  • Find_the_Door
    Nogueira connoisseur
    • Jan 2012
    • 4051

    #2
    Re: Madden looks worse on HDR next gen??

    That's because the Q70T really isn't a great HDR TV. It only does about 450 nits of brightness - some people consider OLEDs "dim" and they do 780 nits of peak HDR brightness.

    So yeah substandard HDR display will get you a substandard HDR experience

    Have to go with at very least a Q80T if not Q90T for a true HDR experience. I'd recommend an LG CX OLED over any of the junk Samsung put out this year though as Samsung's game mode significantly neuters image quality in game mode where as LG OLEDs do not.
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    • PhillyPhanatic14
      MVP
      • Jun 2015
      • 4824

      #3
      Re: Madden looks worse on HDR next gen??

      Madden's HDR always sucks but it looks rough on next gen

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      • Ram209
        MVP
        • Feb 2003
        • 1161

        #4
        Re: Madden looks worse on HDR next gen??

        Thanks for the info!! Question seems like you know your stuff lol! I got a good deal on the TV it was a black Friday for 799. The other TVs are great but over my budget. The main reason I got this was for the 120hz panel and the HDMI 2.1. Considering the HDR quality sucks should I return the TV and go with one that's cheaper that isn't 4k 120hz. I honestly only play Madden and 2k so I'm not even sure if the 120hz matters in those games.
        Basically should I return the TV and get something like the VIZIO M7 or the TCLR635 or the 5 series.
        Thanks any input would be great. I can also put it this way if your in my shoes and have the series X and only play sports games what TV would you buy with a 700 budget.

        Thanks for your help!
        Originally posted by Find_the_Door
        That's because the Q70T really isn't a great HDR TV. It only does about 450 nits of brightness - some people consider OLEDs "dim" and they do 780 nits of peak HDR brightness.

        So yeah substandard HDR display will get you a substandard HDR experience

        Have to go with at very least a Q80T if not Q90T for a true HDR experience. I'd recommend an LG CX OLED over any of the junk Samsung put out this year though as Samsung's game mode significantly neuters image quality in game mode where as LG OLEDs do not.
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        Last edited by Ram209; 12-14-2020, 03:54 PM.

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        • PVarck31
          Moderator
          • Jan 2003
          • 16869

          #5
          Re: Madden looks worse on HDR next gen??

          Originally posted by Ram209
          Thanks for the info!! Question seems like you know your stuff lol! I got a good deal on the TV it was a black Friday for 799. The other TVs are great but over my budget. The main reason I got this was for the 120hz panel and the HDMI 2.1. Considering the HDR quality sucks should I return the TV and go with one that's cheaper that isn't 4k 120hz. I honestly only play Madden and 2k so I'm not even sure if the 120hz matters in those games.
          Basically should I return the TV and get something like the VIZIO M7 or the TCLR635 or the 5 series.
          Thanks any input would be great. I can also put it this way if your in my shoes and have the series X and only play sports games what TV would you buy with a 700 budget.

          Thanks for your help!

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          At a $800 budget you would be hard pressed to find something with good HDR. Definitely don't buy the TCL 5 series. The 6 series does good HDR, but there are a lot of panel quality issues. I would stay away from it because of that.

          I also don't like Vizio, but that is more of personal preference seeing as how I went through three of them with horrible panel issues.

          I would consider looking into Sony. You can find some good deals. I have the X900F and it does great HDR. But it's around 1K or so.

          Maybe someone else can chime in and recommend a good HDR TV at the $700 price point, but I just can't think of one right now.

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          • Ram209
            MVP
            • Feb 2003
            • 1161

            #6
            Re: Madden looks worse on HDR next gen??

            Thanks for the info! If I didn't want to play using HDR( Seems like to get a good TV will be out of my budget) my next question is should I stick to my Q70T or get something cheaper because I would not notice that much of a difference playing in "non hdr"
            Originally posted by PVarck31
            At a $800 budget you would be hard pressed to find something with good HDR. Definitely don't buy the TCL 5 series. The 6 series does good HDR, but there are a lot of panel quality issues. I would stay away from it because of that.

            I also don't like Vizio, but that is more of personal preference seeing as how I went through three of them with horrible panel issues.

            I would consider looking into Sony. You can find some good deals. I have the X900F and it does great HDR. But it's around 1K or so.

            Maybe someone else can chime in and recommend a good HDR TV at the $700 price point, but I just can't think of one right now.
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            • XxStew21xx
              Rookie
              • Jul 2019
              • 127

              #7
              Re: Madden looks worse on HDR next gen??

              Originally posted by PVarck31
              At a $800 budget you would be hard pressed to find something with good HDR. Definitely don't buy the TCL 5 series. The 6 series does good HDR, but there are a lot of panel quality issues. I would stay away from it because of that.

              I also don't like Vizio, but that is more of personal preference seeing as how I went through three of them with horrible panel issues.

              I would consider looking into Sony. You can find some good deals. I have the X900F and it does great HDR. But it's around 1K or so.

              Maybe someone else can chime in and recommend a good HDR TV at the $700 price point, but I just can't think of one right now.
              I got my TCL 43' 4k HDR on a black friday deal for $160.

              Looks great. Very impressed.

              Maybe it's different for the bigger sizes ? Idk

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              • TheBleedingRed21
                Game Dev
                • Oct 2010
                • 5071

                #8
                Re: Madden looks worse on HDR next gen??

                HDR looks fantastic on my Sony. Always just depends on the TV.

                Even some of the more expensive sets don’t present the games well in HDR. Not every $1000+ TV will look great and not every sub $1000 TV will look bad.
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                • Find_the_Door
                  Nogueira connoisseur
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 4051

                  #9
                  Re: Madden looks worse on HDR next gen??

                  Originally posted by Ram209
                  Thanks for the info!! Question seems like you know your stuff lol! I got a good deal on the TV it was a black Friday for 799. The other TVs are great but over my budget. The main reason I got this was for the 120hz panel and the HDMI 2.1. Considering the HDR quality sucks should I return the TV and go with one that's cheaper that isn't 4k 120hz. I honestly only play Madden and 2k so I'm not even sure if the 120hz matters in those games.
                  Basically should I return the TV and get something like the VIZIO M7 or the TCLR635 or the 5 series.
                  Thanks any input would be great. I can also put it this way if your in my shoes and have the series X and only play sports games what TV would you buy with a 700 budget.

                  Thanks for your help!

                  Sent from my SM-N986U using Operation Sports mobile app
                  Lowest I'd go quality wise is the Sony X900F which will get you an experience above and beyond what you're accustomed to for a few hundred more. Certainly go that route and don't settle. Think about how often you use your TV and how much quality you're truly missing out on when settling.

                  TVs aren't something you "get a deal on" as with most everything in this world you get what you pay for. That's especially true when it comes to displays.
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                  • Ram209
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 1161

                    #10
                    Re: Madden looks worse on HDR next gen??

                    Unfortunately I can't go higher than my budget [emoji20] With that being said you think I would see much difference between my Q70T and say a Hisense H8G. It's about 300 cheaper.
                    Originally posted by Find_the_Door
                    Lowest I'd go quality wise is the Sony X900F which will get you an experience above and beyond what you're accustomed to for a few hundred more. Certainly go that route and don't settle. Think about how often you use your TV and how much quality you're truly missing out on when settling.

                    TVs aren't something you "get a deal on" as with most everything in this world you get what you pay for. That's especially true when it comes to displays.
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                    • Potatoes002
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 2143

                      #11
                      Re: Madden looks worse on HDR next gen??

                      For people with the next gen version and using HDR, did any of you not like current gen version with HDR on?

                      HDR looks great on all my games on current gen outside of Madden. It just would give off this overcast/cloudy look no matter the weather or time of day the game was.

                      Just curious if there has been an improvement with how the HDR looks in Madden on next gen.

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                      • Ram209
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 1161

                        #12
                        Re: Madden looks worse on HDR next gen??

                        Well apparently for me my TV sucks lol! Like I said in this thread I didn't like it on Next Gen
                        Originally posted by Potatoes002
                        For people with the next gen version and using HDR, did any of you not like current gen version with HDR on?

                        HDR looks great on all my games on current gen outside of Madden. It just would give off this overcast/cloudy look no matter the weather or time of day the game was.

                        Just curious if there has been an improvement with how the HDR looks in Madden on next gen.
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                        • radatdude2
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 390

                          #13
                          Re: Madden looks worse on HDR next gen??

                          I have the same issue on the Xbox Series X using my Vizio Quantum P series. I had the same issue with Madden 20 on the Xbox One X, it just didn't look good. What's interesting is NBA 2k21 next gen looks great in HDR on the series X. I'm curious how Madden next-gen looks on PS5 in HDR, since there are some reports of the PS5 handling HDR well overall.

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                          • Find_the_Door
                            Nogueira connoisseur
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 4051

                            #14
                            Re: Madden looks worse on HDR next gen??

                            Originally posted by Ram209
                            Unfortunately I can't go higher than my budget [emoji20] With that being said you think I would see much difference between my Q70T and say a Hisense H8G. It's about 300 cheaper.

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                            Again cheaper isn't better getting a deal isn't the goal here. Getting you something that actually does what you want it to is.

                            If you're willing to sacrifice HDMI 2.1 then I'd go the route of then Hisense H9G

                            The H8G is just a side step from the Q70T and basically gives the same performance. The H9G will give you something between the Q80T and Q90T missing on HDMI 2.1

                            HDMI 2.1 is a legitimate omission though as you're acknowledging that all devices going forth will have it.
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                            • Find_the_Door
                              Nogueira connoisseur
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 4051

                              #15
                              Re: Madden looks worse on HDR next gen??

                              For the record Madden Next Gen from an HDR perspective looks great on PS5 via my LG C9 OLED
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