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Quote: Originally Posted by ryangil23

I could go on with the many things wrong with it such as submissions finishing before the bar is even full, being KOd in ground and pound when you actually framed the hook (not through block), ground and pound defence being flat out unresponsive at times, glitchy back drags from the cage, etc. The fact that no other games are refunded, except cyberpunk which is a really high bar if that’s what it takes, is part of the reason why people are getting more frustrated with the industry. White hot hatred or however it was put above is too far but you can’t expect to take people’s money and then get all pissy when people criticise a product that has many flaws when they don’t even have the option of a refund, exchange or even a goodwill gesture. “Just go and play ufc 3” isn’t going to cut it I’m afraid.

Yeah but you guys are putting them in a position where they cant win. Lets accept one thing:

THE GAME ISNT DESIGNED FOR PEOPLE WHO GO TO OS OR THE UFC DISCORD AND PLAY THE GAME. ITS TARGETED FOR CASUAL FANS WHO DONT GIVE A **** ABOUT THINGS LIKE CAGE CONTROL.

The game isnt designed for people like you or me that are hardcore fans of the sport.

Once we accept that fact, what are they supposed to do when it comes to communication? Take Skynet.

Now I'm biased when it comes to him. He is one of the few devs on that team that has been consistently responsive during the 5 yrs I've been on the team. From an AI/Realism perspective, he has been willing to sit down with me and walk me through all of the things that goes into AI. He's been honest about the things the team could do and couldnt do. He is the only reasons people like me or Aero or Trust are able to regularly provide real input when it comes to the offline part of this game.

So say you are Skynet. You could do what 99% of the UFC devs do and thats lurk. Many of them see your posts on OS or Reddit or the Discord. They see everything you are writing....but they dont interact because alot of the interactions are just flat out negative (I'm not saying that they arent justified).

If you do that, people will complain about the devs being unresponsive.

If he chooses to interact with users, he is guaranteed to interact with that negativity...and thats fine too.

The issue I have is that people can **** on the devs (I see way more of this on Reddit and the Discord) but when a dev says "If you dont like the direction of 4...stick w/ 3"...thats a problem?

Thats so weird to me.

I'm not defending 4. I still play it but overall I'm very disappointed with the direction of the series. I'm just a little dumbfounded that the "customer" is allowed to **** all over his (and his colleagues) work and thats fine but if he fires back....thats over the line?