MLB The Show Trade Discussion Thread

[Mackrel829]

I'm a pretty new and casual fan of baseball at the moment. I've only been following the sport for the past two seasons, so am still getting to grips with the ins and outs of the game. As such, I find trade discussion threads incredibly useful to make sure that my trades are generally in keeping with real life happenings in MLB. I couldn't see one for '21, so figured I'd get things started.

I've started a franchise with the As, and would like to add SP Tyler Glasgow from the Rays to my rotation. Is this a trade that would at least be plausible in real life? If so, what would I have to give up to get him?

The Rays look to have a good number of pitchers right around Glasgow's overall, some of whom are younger. He's also coming towards the end of his arbitration period so is about to become less affordable. As far as I'm aware, he also hasn't played that much (or that we'll?) for the Rays since they traded for him, and they got him pretty cheap in the deal if I'm not mistaken? Seems reasonable that they may move on from him.

The Rays would accept the following package from me:

SP Paul Blackburn - 27yo, 71 OVR, B pot.
C Aramis Garcia - 28yo, 72 OVR, B pot.
SS young prospect - 19yo, 49 OVR, A pot.

Glasgow is 27yo, 78 OVR, B pot

This doesn't seem like it would be enough though. I also have another young SS at 68 OVR, A pot. who I could trade instead.

[Detroit Tigers]

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Awesome bro I was just gonna ask where this thread was because no search. Nice.

I’m here because I want to acquire Javier Baez as my first move as Tigers GM. I’m offering Matt Boyd. Any thoughts appreciated.

[Rocket32]

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I'm a pretty new and casual fan of baseball at the moment. I've only been following the sport for the past two seasons, so am still getting to grips with the ins and outs of the game. As such, I find trade discussion threads incredibly useful to make sure that my trades are generally in keeping with real life happenings in MLB. I couldn't see one for '21, so figured I'd get things started.

I've started a franchise with the As, and would like to add SP Tyler Glasgow from the Rays to my rotation. Is this a trade that would at least be plausible in real life? If so, what would I have to give up to get him?

The Rays look to have a good number of pitchers right around Glasgow's overall, some of whom are younger. He's also coming towards the end of his arbitration period so is about to become less affordable. As far as I'm aware, he also hasn't played that much (or that we'll?) for the Rays since they traded for him, and they got him pretty cheap in the deal if I'm not mistaken? Seems reasonable that they may move on from him.

The Rays would accept the following package from me:

SP Paul Blackburn - 27yo, 71 OVR, B pot.
C Aramis Garcia - 28yo, 72 OVR, B pot.
SS young prospect - 19yo, 49 OVR, A pot.

Glasgow is 27yo, 78 OVR, B pot

This doesn't seem like it would be enough though. I also have another young SS at 68 OVR, A pot. who I could trade instead.

There’s no way you’re realistically getting a young arm like Glasnow for that return package. He was pretty dominant in his 60.2 IP in 2019, 1.78 ERA and 0.89 WHIP. Sure his numbers jumped last year, but that happening in a shortened delayed season isn’t enough for you to get him for nothing. Especially as Tampa is aiming to contend.

The potentials of the players you are offering look good, but really look at what you’re actually offering. In game, Blackburn is the same age as Glasnow, significantly worse, and has less room to improve. Aramis Garcia is likely a career backup/depth C. At age 28 he’s not a solid prospect. The SS prospect is very raw at 49 OVR and has a good chance of never reaching that high potential.

Zero reason for Tampa to accept that trade. If you were the Rays, would you accept that trade? I would bet that’s a no. The 68 OVR A potential SS is good centerpiece, but those other players really don’t add much to the deal.

[Goose26]

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I just offered Francisco Lindor to the Twins for (many players before finally seeing how low they would need me to go) RP Cody Stashak and the Twins said they wanted more value. This game is completely broken.

[Detroit Tigers]

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I just offered Francisco Lindor to the Twins for (many players before finally seeing how low they would need me to go) RP Cody Stashak and the Twins said they wanted more value. This game is completely broken.

Generally speaking that’s why guys make this thread every year, to get advice on making legit moves instead of dealing with the silliness.

[Gagnon39]

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Always one of my favorite threads, every year. I like to pretend its like us, "gm's," discussing potential trades.

[Mackrel829]

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There’s no way you’re realistically getting a young arm like Glasnow for that return package. He was pretty dominant in his 60.2 IP in 2019, 1.78 ERA and 0.89 WHIP. Sure his numbers jumped last year, but that happening in a shortened delayed season isn’t enough for you to get him for nothing. Especially as Tampa is aiming to contend.

The potentials of the players you are offering look good, but really look at what you’re actually offering. In game, Blackburn is the same age as Glasnow, significantly worse, and has less room to improve. Aramis Garcia is likely a career backup/depth C. At age 28 he’s not a solid prospect. The SS prospect is very raw at 49 OVR and has a good chance of never reaching that high potential.

Zero reason for Tampa to accept that trade. If you were the Rays, would you accept that trade? I would bet that’s a no. The 68 OVR A potential SS is good centerpiece, but those other players really don’t add much to the deal.

I figured that would be the case

Would they take Sean Manaea in return do you think? He's in a contract year and I'd rather have Glasnow going forward. He's 80 OVR, 28, B pot.

Or do you think the trade is just unrealistic and I should look elsewhere?

[Rocket32]

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I figured that would be the case

Would they take Sean Manaea in return do you think? He's in a contract year and I'd rather have Glasnow going forward. He's 80 OVR, 28, B pot.

Or do you think the trade is just unrealistic and I should look elsewhere?

I would say it’s just unrealistic with the position the Rays are in, they really have no reason to move Glasnow right now. Glasnow’s higher ceiling and multiple years of ARB control would be more valuable to Tampa then a slight short term upgrade in Manaea.

If you’re going to trade for a quality young cheap controllable starter, it’s usually gonna have to sting a bit if you’re being realistic.

[Mackrel829]

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I would say it’s just unrealistic with the position the Rays are in, they really have no reason to move Glasnow right now. Glasnow’s higher ceiling and multiple years of ARB control would be more valuable to Tampa then a slight short term upgrade in Manaea.

If you’re going to trade for a quality young cheap controllable starter, it’s usually gonna have to sting a bit if you’re being realistic.

Noted. Thanks for the advice!

Any teams that are likely to be sellers in real life that I could look to poach players from? I have an excess of prospects at my infield positions that I wouldn't mind shipping out for outfielders or pitchers.

[dpower15]

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Thoughts on a Trevor Story trade to the Braves? I think it could be a good landing spot with him moving to 3B. Some combo of Drew Waters (22 yrs, OF, Braves #2 prospect), Shae Langeliers (23 yrs, C, Braves #3 prospect), and/or a young arm like Touki or Ynoa is what I’m looking at in return. I could also toss in Blackmon others to make it work. This is assuming Pache is untouchable.

If there’s a way I can also pull in Nico Hoerner from the Cubs I’d like to do that too. Not sure if I’ve got enough talent on the roster to make it happen if I move Story to the Braves. The Cubs could use an OF so maybe Blackmon and others gets it done? Ryan McMahon is having a great year so far too so maybe he’s a component worth looking into moving. Thoughts?

German Marquez is really the only guy on the roster I definitely don’t want to move.


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[kinsmen7]

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Thoughts on a Trevor Story trade to the Braves? I think it could be a good landing spot with him moving to 3B. Some combo of Drew Waters (22 yrs, OF, Braves #2 prospect), Shae Langeliers (23 yrs, C, Braves #3 prospect), and/or a young arm like Touki or Ynoa is what I’m looking at in return. I could also toss in Blackmon others to make it work. This is assuming Pache is untouchable.

If there’s a way I can also pull in Nico Hoerner from the Cubs I’d like to do that too. Not sure if I’ve got enough talent on the roster to make it happen if I move Story to the Braves. The Cubs could use an OF so maybe Blackmon and others gets it done? Ryan McMahon is having a great year so far too so maybe he’s a component worth looking into moving. Thoughts?

German Marquez is really the only guy on the roster I definitely don’t want to move.


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Waters value alone is higher than Story's. In a Story trade, you're looking more at a 2nd tier return...something along the lines of Muller, Harris and Shoemaker (#'s 4, 5 and 10 in Atlanta's system). Even that is an overpay of about $6-7 mil in surplus value. Alternatively, Langeliers+Harris would be pretty much flush with Story's value.

Think about the return that Baltimore got for Machado at the deadline? Not very good...

As for Blackmon-He has negative surplus value (-$37 mil) due to his age, contract and poor defence. What does this mean? You'd essentially have to give up Story+ just to get rid of his contract.

As for Hoerner? if you're skipping over "realistic" and just going for "fair" (Which is 100% fine IMO), Hoerner's current surplus value is pretty much the same as Story's. Prospect/young player-wise, if you gave up Rodgers+Doyle+Lambert, it would get you pretty close in terms of overall value.

I know you said you don't want to move him, but Marquez is your only trade chip that will bring back a top 25 prospect right now.

[dpower15]

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Waters value alone is higher than Story's. In a Story trade, you're looking more at a 2nd tier return...something along the lines of Muller, Harris and Shoemaker (#'s 4, 5 and 10 in Atlanta's system). Even that is an overpay of about $6-7 mil in surplus value. Alternatively, Langeliers+Harris would be pretty much flush with Story's value.

Think about the return that Baltimore got for Machado at the deadline? Not very good...

As for Blackmon-He has negative surplus value (-$37 mil) due to his age, contract and poor defence. What does this mean? You'd essentially have to give up Story+ just to get rid of his contract.

As for Hoerner? if you're skipping over "realistic" and just going for "fair" (Which is 100% fine IMO), Hoerner's current surplus value is pretty much the same as Story's. Prospect/young player-wise, if you gave up Rodgers+Doyle+Lambert, it would get you pretty close in terms of overall value.

I know you said you don't want to move him, but Marquez is your only trade chip that will bring back a top 25 prospect right now.

Appreciate the insight. So really I need to choose one or the other, the Braves deal or Cubs, and as far as realism the Cubs likely aren’t moving Hoerner for anyone other than Story which would be a 1-1 deal. Agreed?

Valid point on Blackmon, I’m happy to hold onto him.


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[Detroit Tigers]

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I want to acquire Javier Baez as my first move as Tigers GM. I’m offering Matt Boyd. Any thoughts appreciated.

Anyone have any thoughts?

[Friar Fanatic]

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Any thoughts on this. Toronto is off an an awful start and will be dead last in tbe AL East and San Diego is in 2nd behind LA in the division

San Diego Receives
Lourdes Gurriel Jr. 86 ovr B Pot

Toronto Receives
Chris Paddack, 81 ovr, B Pot
Tommy Pham, 84 ovr, B Pot (walk year)
Emilio Pagan, 79 ovr, B pot

[JWDixon120]

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Anyone have any thoughts?

As far as realism I’m not sure this really makes sense with where the Tigers are right now. But if you’re not looking for realism go for it!