Does XP matter in "pure" Franchise?

[furball321]

History:

1) Since 2013, I've played The Show only in Franchise.
2) I only bought the game after OSFM rosters came out.
3) As a result, I learned nothing about other modes and paid no attention to any particular ways to gain XP.
4) I have played almost every franchise game in "real time," pitching and batting each pitch.

So, this year I bought the game on release day. I could be wrong, but there seem to be lots of issues I never used to worry about:

1) Although I didn't "worry" about XP in prior years, I bought "Sponsorships," And I think XP helped me earn those. (?)
2) The game seems offline a lot. Am I earning XP when I finish a Franchise game when SDS servers are offline?
3) I see no place to see how much culmulative XP I have earned, or how to "spend" that XP for Franchise benefits.

Ultimately, I guess my question is, what does earning XP gain me in pitch-by pitch Franchise mode? And how do I monitor XP gains and see where and how to spend it for Franchise benefits?

Thanks for any help.

[knucklecutter]

Re: Does XP matter in "pure" Franchise?

For franchise, the only thing you might want is sponsorships or stubs to increase your budget , if that's still a thing this year.


xp: as you increase xp you level up, when you level up you earn things that can be sold for stubs or get free stubs. Stubs is the games currency. Sponsorships can be bought with stubs. One caveat, this year if you alter the sliders in any way you no longer earn xp.

[Fuimus Troes]

Re: Does XP matter in "pure" Franchise?

Just like the previous poster said, for pure franchise XP matters only as a way to get stubs so you can purchase diamond sponsorships.

As you level up XP, go over the inning program to see if you can unlock anything -- stubs, cards to sell for stubs, etc.

Since they took away purchasing budgets with stubs this year, it's all about sponsorships.

[tessl]

Re: Does XP matter in "pure" Franchise?

Unless they changed it for 21 the cpu teams do not use the sponsorships and therefore I never used it because I considered it a cheat.

Maybe someone could weigh in on whether they changed it for this year's version.

[Fuimus Troes]

Re: Does XP matter in "pure" Franchise?

That's a fair house rule.

I've never bought more budget, so I won't miss that.

I don't think budgets ever go up, though, do they? Because of this, I use sponsorships. Small market teams that crush should receive boosts.

[TheWarmWind]

Re: Does XP matter in "pure" Franchise?

I think people are mad for two reasons. At least I know I am.

1. The current budget system has severe limits that can cause problems. Not only do you have situations where the league wide budget isn't keeping pace with player salaries, resulting in really good players languishing in free agency down the line, but you can also never turn the Cleveland Indians into the New York Yankees, no matter how well you do. People might argue that the city of Cleveland could just never support the fanbase that New York can, and I'd counter that by saying everyone thought Detroit was going to be one of America's biggest cities in the 60s. Population is a dynamic thing. Both of these things can be dealt with by using stubs, which require XP or money to get.

2. It's the insult on top of the injury of the fact that franchise, for the millionth time in a row, had gotten no meaningful update, and at this point it desperately needs it. It's even more insulting that there was a very obvious solution to prevent people from farming XP that most people would have been fine with (make XP gain based on innings played alone) and yet SDS still gave us the shaft. We're being treated like third rate consumers, being spit on and told we should like it.

Add that on top of the removal of year to year without any reason given, and I think us franchise players have plenty of reason to be pissed off.

It's cool you're ok with it. Everyone's got their own things they like/dislike or care about. I'm just fed up. It's a small thing, but after years of very clear issues needing to be delt with in franchise and getting nothing but lip service and the run around, it's the straw that broke the camel's back.

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[Caulfield]

Re: Does XP matter in "pure" Franchise?

...this year I bought the game on release day. I could be wrong, but there seem to be lots of issues I never used to worry about:

Although I didn't "worry" about XP in prior years, I bought "Sponsorships," And I think XP helped me earn those...

this is my single biggest issue, nay, my biggest disappointment w/21 because even though I play on dynamic difficulty I still cannot (and refuse to) use the default sliders. huge misstep on the Studios part imo to turn xp off when using adjusted sliders. this screwup has me on the verge of shelving 21 for the time being (I'm hopeful they'll decide to change this decision with a patch) while I dust off a previous years version where I can gain xp w/adjusted sliders in Franchise

[tabarnes19_SDS]

Re: Does XP matter in "pure" Franchise?

I think people are mad for two reasons. At least I know I am.

1. The current budget system has severe limits that can cause problems. Not only do you have situations where the league wide budget isn't keeping pace with player salaries, resulting in really good players languishing in free agency down the line, but you can also never turn the Cleveland Indians into the New York Yankees, no matter how well you do. People might argue that the city of Cleveland could just never support the fanbase that New York can, and I'd counter that by saying everyone thought Detroit was going to be one of America's biggest cities in the 60s. Population is a dynamic thing. Both of these things can be dealt with by using stubs, which require XP or money to get.

2. It's the insult on top of the injury of the fact that franchise, for the millionth time in a row, had gotten no meaningful update, and at this point it desperately needs it. It's even more insulting that there was a very obvious solution to prevent people from farming XP that most people would have been fine with (make XP gain based on innings played alone) and yet SDS still gave us the shaft. We're being treated like third rate consumers, being spit on and told we should like it.

Add that on top of the removal of year to year without any reason given, and I think us franchise players have plenty of reason to be pissed off.

It's cool you're ok with it. Everyone's got their own things they like/dislike or care about. I'm just fed up. It's a small thing, but after years of very clear issues needing to be delt with in franchise and getting nothing but lip service and the run around, it's the straw that broke the camel's back.

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I don't agree with that. I've done multiple tests with 10 years out. Franchise budgets explode and many teams have well north of 150-200 million in budgets some have over 300. The only unsigned are players 79 rated or lower and over 34.

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[baconbits11]

Re: Does XP matter in "pure" Franchise?

I wish they would have brought back Franchise from the PS2 days. You used to be able to buy faciilites (locker rooms, hot tubs, etc) , transportation (bus and planes, etc.) and concession upgrades for your team. This would be awesome and would encourage me to get XP to buy those types of things.

[knucklecutter]

Re: Does XP matter in "pure" Franchise?

Unless they changed it for 21 the cpu teams do not use the sponsorships and therefore I never used it because I considered it a cheat.

Maybe someone could weigh in on whether they changed it for this year's version.

I have no idea who came up with this sponsorship template, but I found it on these forums a while back. Using 30 team control...


1. NYY - Earnings 12 MIL (all diamonds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 25K/game, Active replay - 2.5K/hit, Walk up - 40K/win

2. LAD - Earnings 12.1 MIL (all diamonds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 25k/game, Active replay - 2.5K/hit, Walk up - 40K/win

3. BOS - Earnings 7.5 MIL (all diamonds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 25K/game, Walk up - 2.5K/hit

4. CHC - Earnings 8.6 MIL (all diamonds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 25K/game, Walk up - 3.5K/strikeout

5. SFG - Earnings 7.8 MIL (all diamonds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 25K/game, Walk up - 3.5K/strikeout

6. NYM - Earnings 7.2 MIL (all diamonds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 25K/game, Walk up - 40K/win

7. STL - Earnings 8.7 MIL (all diamonds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 25K/game, Walk up - 3.5K/strikeout

8. LAA - Earnings 7.6 MIL (all diamonds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 25K/game, Walk up - 2.5K/hit

9. PHI - Earnings 7.4 MIL (all diamonds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 25K/game, Walk up - 40K/win

10. HOU - Earnings 8.1 MIL (1 diamond/1 gold)
In game ticker - 25K/game, Walk up - 15K/homerun

11. WAS - Earnings 6.8 MIL (1 diamond/1 gold)
In game ticker - 25K/game, Walk up - 2K/hit

12. ATL - Earnings 6.1 MIL (all golds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 20K/game, Walk up - 2K/hit

13. TEX - Earnings 5.8 MIL (all golds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 20K/game, Walk up - 2K/hit

14. CWS - Earnings 6.8 MIL (all golds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 20K/game, Walk up - 15K/homerun

15. SEA- Earnings 5.5 MIL (all golds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 20K/game, Walk up - 55K/save

16. TOR - Earnings 4.8 MIL (all golds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 20K/game, Walk up - 15K/double play

17. SDP - Earnings 5.2 MIL (all golds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 20K/game, Walk up - 3.5K/run

18. ARI - Earnings 5.6 MIL (all golds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 20K/game, Walk up - 20K/stolen base

19. BAL - Earnings 4.4 MIL (all silvers for sponsor)
In game ticker - 15K/game, Walk up - 1.5K/hit

20. PIT - Earnings 3.7 MIL (all silvers for sponsor)
In game ticker - 15K/game, Walk up - 20K/win

21. DET- Earnings 3.8 MIL (all silvers for sponsor)
In game ticker - 15K/game, Walk up - 10K/homerun

22. COL - Earnings 4 MIL (all silvers for sponsor)
In game ticker - 15K/game, Walk up - 2.5K/run

23. MIN - Earnings 5 MIL (all silvers for sponsor)
In game ticker - 15K/game, Walk up - 10K/homerun

24. MIL - Earnings 4.5 MIL (all silvers for sponsor)
In game ticker - 15K/game, Walk up - 1.5K/hit

25. CLE - Earnings 3.3 MIL (all silvers for sponsor)
In game ticker - 15K/game, Walk up - 10K/double play

26. OAK - Earnings 3.5 MIL (all silvers for sponsor)
In game ticker - 15K/game, Walk up - 15K/stolen base

27. CIN - Earnings 4.4 MIL (all silvers for sponsor)
In game ticker - 15K/game, Walk up - 1.5K/hit

28. KC - Earnings 2.4 MIL (1 silver sponsor)
In game ticker - 15K/game

29. TB - Earnings 2.4 MIL (1 silver sponsor)
In game ticker -15K/game

30. MIA - Earnings 2.4 MIL (1 silver sponsor)
In game ticker - 15K/game


These are the brands that I've gathered this year to fill out the chart.


silver

20k/win - new balance
15k/game - under armour
15k/stolen base - adidas
10k/double play - rawlings
10k/home run - old hickory | louisville slugger
2.5k/run - victus
1.5k/hit - stance | marucci | trinity bat company

gold

55k/save - wilson
20k/game - rawlings
20k/stolen base - franklin
15k/home run - marucci
15k/double play - mizuno
3.5k/run - g form | under armour
2k/hit - old hickory | victus

diamond

40k/win - nike
25k/game - easton | louisville slugger
3.5k/strike out - mizuno | new balance
2.5k/hit - franklin

[tessl]

Re: Does XP matter in "pure" Franchise?

That's a fair house rule.

I've never bought more budget, so I won't miss that.

I don't think budgets ever go up, though, do they? Because of this, I use sponsorships. Small market teams that crush should receive boosts.

Budgets do change. I don't own 21 yet but I believe the developers said team performance will determine how much budget increases.

[Ace2734]

Re: Does XP matter in "pure" Franchise?

I wish they would have brought back Franchise from the PS2 days. You used to be able to buy faciilites (locker rooms, hot tubs, etc) , transportation (bus and planes, etc.) and concession upgrades for your team. This would be awesome and would encourage me to get XP to buy those types of things.

And this practically screams microtransactions, if that’s the only way to get their attention


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[Detroit Tigers]

Re: Does XP matter in "pure" Franchise?

I have no idea who came up with this sponsorship template, but I found it on these forums a while back. Using 30 team control...


1. NYY - Earnings 12 MIL (all diamonds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 25K/game, Active replay - 2.5K/hit, Walk up - 40K/win

2. LAD - Earnings 12.1 MIL (all diamonds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 25k/game, Active replay - 2.5K/hit, Walk up - 40K/win

3. BOS - Earnings 7.5 MIL (all diamonds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 25K/game, Walk up - 2.5K/hit

4. CHC - Earnings 8.6 MIL (all diamonds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 25K/game, Walk up - 3.5K/strikeout

5. SFG - Earnings 7.8 MIL (all diamonds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 25K/game, Walk up - 3.5K/strikeout

6. NYM - Earnings 7.2 MIL (all diamonds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 25K/game, Walk up - 40K/win

7. STL - Earnings 8.7 MIL (all diamonds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 25K/game, Walk up - 3.5K/strikeout

8. LAA - Earnings 7.6 MIL (all diamonds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 25K/game, Walk up - 2.5K/hit

9. PHI - Earnings 7.4 MIL (all diamonds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 25K/game, Walk up - 40K/win

10. HOU - Earnings 8.1 MIL (1 diamond/1 gold)
In game ticker - 25K/game, Walk up - 15K/homerun

11. WAS - Earnings 6.8 MIL (1 diamond/1 gold)
In game ticker - 25K/game, Walk up - 2K/hit

12. ATL - Earnings 6.1 MIL (all golds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 20K/game, Walk up - 2K/hit

13. TEX - Earnings 5.8 MIL (all golds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 20K/game, Walk up - 2K/hit

14. CWS - Earnings 6.8 MIL (all golds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 20K/game, Walk up - 15K/homerun

15. SEA- Earnings 5.5 MIL (all golds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 20K/game, Walk up - 55K/save

16. TOR - Earnings 4.8 MIL (all golds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 20K/game, Walk up - 15K/double play

17. SDP - Earnings 5.2 MIL (all golds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 20K/game, Walk up - 3.5K/run

18. ARI - Earnings 5.6 MIL (all golds for sponsor)
In game ticker - 20K/game, Walk up - 20K/stolen base

19. BAL - Earnings 4.4 MIL (all silvers for sponsor)
In game ticker - 15K/game, Walk up - 1.5K/hit

20. PIT - Earnings 3.7 MIL (all silvers for sponsor)
In game ticker - 15K/game, Walk up - 20K/win

21. DET- Earnings 3.8 MIL (all silvers for sponsor)
In game ticker - 15K/game, Walk up - 10K/homerun

22. COL - Earnings 4 MIL (all silvers for sponsor)
In game ticker - 15K/game, Walk up - 2.5K/run

23. MIN - Earnings 5 MIL (all silvers for sponsor)
In game ticker - 15K/game, Walk up - 10K/homerun

24. MIL - Earnings 4.5 MIL (all silvers for sponsor)
In game ticker - 15K/game, Walk up - 1.5K/hit

25. CLE - Earnings 3.3 MIL (all silvers for sponsor)
In game ticker - 15K/game, Walk up - 10K/double play

26. OAK - Earnings 3.5 MIL (all silvers for sponsor)
In game ticker - 15K/game, Walk up - 15K/stolen base

27. CIN - Earnings 4.4 MIL (all silvers for sponsor)
In game ticker - 15K/game, Walk up - 1.5K/hit

28. KC - Earnings 2.4 MIL (1 silver sponsor)
In game ticker - 15K/game

29. TB - Earnings 2.4 MIL (1 silver sponsor)
In game ticker -15K/game

30. MIA - Earnings 2.4 MIL (1 silver sponsor)
In game ticker - 15K/game


These are the brands that I've gathered this year to fill out the chart.


silver

20k/win - new balance
15k/game - under armour
15k/stolen base - adidas
10k/double play - rawlings
10k/home run - old hickory | louisville slugger
2.5k/run - victus
1.5k/hit - stance | marucci | trinity bat company

gold

55k/save - wilson
20k/game - rawlings
20k/stolen base - franklin
15k/home run - marucci
15k/double play - mizuno
3.5k/run - g form | under armour
2k/hit - old hickory | victus

diamond

40k/win - nike
25k/game - easton | louisville slugger
3.5k/strike out - mizuno | new balance
2.5k/hit - franklin

Dude I LOVE this. I may have to restart my franchise and do this. Why have I never seen this before?