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  • kzdwfy
    Pro
    • Jun 2003
    • 754

    #1

    Leon N All-Pro Sliders Madden 22(Current/Next Gen)

    Ok guys, I try to keep as much realism as humanly possible so I have tested run blocking, tackling, pass coverage, and qb accuracy so far in practice mode. Therefore in my mind, if I don't lose with the Lions vs. the Bucs then the sliders need to be adjusted until I do lose.

    This is what I have come up with so far:



    <b>Update 9/2/21

    Speed Threshold: 95 (Based of of Aestis experimentation)

    Level: All-Madden

    Penalties: All maxed out except for Roughing the Passer at 50

    All other settings: Default

    Time: I run at 10 minutes no accelerated clock but its your preference

    On offense, I only change the run from right to left or run an audible to a pass based off of too many men in the box. I never hot route outside of that.

    On defense, I run a no switch rule and only play with the MLB

    Human Sliders (Current/Next Gen)

    QB Accuracy - 6/17</b>(I tested by running hitch routes with QB Glennon SAC (81) and I ran the same play until I saw inaccurate balls in 2 out of every 10 throws. Once that was done I locked it in at 30; (9/2) went back to the lab and noticed after 30 throws Glennon still missed only 2 throws.

    Eventuallly lowered to 5 based on Aaron Rodgers PFF stats if accuracy with clean pocket was 84.4%. He is rated 96 SAC So that should equate to 84%. Tested my theory with Jordan Love SAC 84 and saw him have a 73.3% completion rate with sliders at 5 with short throws....I THINK I CRACKED THE ACCURACY ISSUE IN MADDEN!!!)

    <b>Pass Blocking - 50 </b>

    <b>WR Catching - 50

    Run Blocking - 50 </b>

    <b>Fumbles - 50 </b>

    <b>Pass Defense Reaction Time - 50

    Interceptions - 6/17 </b>(Lowered to 6 because of throw out of sack passes and innacuratre passes tend to go straight to the defender for n interception. Also, dbs have horrible hands in general minus a few players so there should be some drops from the dbs like we see in real life. I will possible look at raising later)

    <b>Pass Coverage - 50

    Tackling - 50 </b>


    <b>CPU Sliders

    QB Accuracy - 5/5</b>(Used Glennon (SAC 81) again and he was already throwing 2 inaccurate passes per every 10 passes so I was good with it at default. At 6 saw CPU A. Rodgers at 84% completion rate with clean pocket. When playing in franchise, the CPU still took deep shots!!!....I THINK I CRACKED THE CODE!!!!!)

    <b>Pass Blocking - 50</b>

    <b>WR Catching - 50

    Run Blocking - 50 </b>

    <b>Fumbles - 50 </b>

    <b>Pass Defense Reaction Time - 50

    Interceptions - 5/5 </b>

    <b>Pass Coverage - 50 </b>

    <b>Tackling - 50 </b>

    I will be posting box scores each time I play. Let me know what you think
    Last edited by kzdwfy; 09-20-2021, 02:12 AM.
  • Decent at Best
    Rookie
    • May 2020
    • 460

    #2
    Re: Leon N All-Pro Sliders Madden 22(Current/Next Gen)

    These look pretty good. May give them a run later. Heads up on the Fumble slider, the more you raise the Slider the less fumbles you'll see and vice versa.

    Also, what are you using for fatigue/INJ and Penalty sliders?

    Sent from my SM-A102U using Operation Sports mobile app

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    • kzdwfy
      Pro
      • Jun 2003
      • 754

      #3
      Re: Leon N All-Pro Sliders Madden 22(Current/Next Gen)

      Originally posted by Decent at Best
      These look pretty good. May give them a run later. Heads up on the Fumble slider, the more you raise the Slider the less fumbles you'll see and vice versa.

      Also, what are you using for fatigue/INJ and Penalty sliders?

      Sent from my SM-A102U using Operation Sports mobile app

      Good to know on the fumbles. The average was 2.59 fumbles per game in 2020 so I'll start adjusting as I play.

      Fatigue sliders were at default because moving towards the second half of the season, you'll see your primary back be substituted more due to progressive fatigue. So that will be adjusted as I play.

      Same thing for injuries, leaving at default or I'll probably reference the injury slider from other guys on this site who have a better idea than do

      Also the penalty sliders don't work in franchise right now although they have never really worked lol
      Last edited by kzdwfy; 08-31-2021, 03:25 PM.

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      • Steely McBeam
        Rookie
        • Nov 2016
        • 37

        #4
        Re: Leon N All-Pro Sliders Madden 22(Current/Next Gen)

        Originally posted by kzdwfy
        Run Blocking - 0 (This is what will ultimately get me to move to All-Madden. I used the Lions O-line, one of the worst run blocking Madden O-lines vs the BUcds D-line, one of the best. Even with Run Blocking at 0, runnning the same zone run out of single back netted me a gain of 4 or more yards 40% (4 out of 10 runs succesful for 4 yds gained or more) of the time. I think that this number percentage should be zero. The defense should dominate the o-line and does not do it as effecftively as I would like)

        Tackling - 53 (Human RB was breaking too many tackles at 50 from high tackle rating CPU LBs so i raised the Tackle accordingly)

        Similar feelings. I would consider trying the CPU tackling 60. Not sure how this impacts the zone out plays but going from 55 to 60 CPU tackling I found the inside runs where nothing was really happening that net 4 yards were reduced by a couple of yards when D-line grabbed people.

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        • kzdwfy
          Pro
          • Jun 2003
          • 754

          #5
          Re: Leon N All-Pro Sliders Madden 22(Current/Next Gen)

          Originally posted by Steely McBeam
          Similar feelings. I would consider trying the CPU tackling 60. Not sure how this impacts the zone out plays but going from 55 to 60 CPU tackling I found the inside runs where nothing was really happening that net 4 yards were reduced by a couple of yards when D-line grabbed people.
          I'll check it out, if the block shed is tied to tackling somehow, I'll stay on all-pro for my edits to the slider set

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          • Steely McBeam
            Rookie
            • Nov 2016
            • 37

            #6
            Re: Leon N All-Pro Sliders Madden 22(Current/Next Gen)

            Super hard to quantify but I have gone from original Steelers roster to 2025.

            Original roster is a revamped o-line with tackles that the Madden ratings guys think should be watching football instead of playing it and an OVR 76 Rookie Powerback.

            Current roster O-line is OVR 77, 80, 84, 81, 82 with a 94 PB. Rushing at times can still be little easy but sliding up the speed threshold and the CPU tackle made some (not all) of "that didn't deserve 4 yards" runs disappear even though I have a much better unit.
            Last edited by Steely McBeam; 09-01-2021, 07:01 AM.

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            • kzdwfy
              Pro
              • Jun 2003
              • 754

              #7
              Re: Leon N All-Pro Sliders Madden 22(Current/Next Gen)

              Originally posted by Steely McBeam
              Super hard to quantify but I have gone from original Steelers roster to 2025.

              Original roster is a revamped o-line with tackles that the Madden ratings guys think should be watching football instead of playing it and an OVR 76 Rookie Powerback.

              Current roster O-line is OVR 77, 80, 84, 81, 82 with a 94 PB. Rushing at times can still be little easy but sliding up the speed threshold and the CPU tackle made some (not all) of "that didn't deserve 4 yards" runs disappear even though I have a much better unit.
              Playing my first game today...I'll leave tackle at 53 for the cpu and the speed threshold at 95. We shall see how it works

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              • kzdwfy
                Pro
                • Jun 2003
                • 754

                #8
                Re: Leon N All-Pro Sliders Madden 22(Current/Next Gen)

                1st Game: Chiefs 49 (me) vs. Ravens 35 (CPU) at home

                Notables:
                Mahomes : 21-27 389 4td/ 0 picks (had a couple of bad reads that were dropped by Dbs)
                Jackson 36-44 350 4td/ 0 picks (no bad reads)

                0 fumbles, 0 ints for either team

                Helaire: 20 rushes - 51yds (pretty happy about this with the run blocking slider at 0 and the Ravens have a solid dline against the run...all 80s in BSH)

                Jackson: 6 rushes - 47yds
                Dobbins: 25 rushes - 79 yds (I need to check their oline vs my dline to see if I need to adjust run blocking. I also need to look at th BCV of Dobbins)

                Overall, not a lot of pressure from the CPU Ravens, I need to check their pass rush ratings vs. my Oline because I know the Chiefs o line is pretty young so their should be more pressure on me in my eyes.
                RT Niang PBF 71
                LOLB Bowser FMV 77 (Should have gotten there way more often than not at all...especially at home)

                The rest of the Chiefs O line would have held up very well. Cammbell would be their main pass rusher but on the left side of my line, I have my guard and tackle in the 80s on pass block ability. (Will drop pass block down to 38)

                Same thing goes for Lamar Jackson. I would have expected more pressure from F. Clark and C. Jones but I will need to check ratings again.
                RDT Jones PMV 96 FMV 89
                RLE Clark PMV 80 FMV 75
                RG Zeitler PBP 85 PBF 75
                RT Villanueva PBP 81 PBF 78

                Jones should have been getting through ,but not Frank Clark. (I will reduce CPU pass blocking to 38 as well

                I didn't like the high scoring but its tough to stop both of these teams. Ill add a lower ranked and higher ranked defense to the franchise to see if they paly better defensively.

                Im starting to believe if I can pass rush pressure right, this will chage everything to help out the defense with lower scoring games and more disruuption in the passing game
                Last edited by kzdwfy; 09-02-2021, 02:12 AM.

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                • kzdwfy
                  Pro
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 754

                  #9
                  Re: Leon N All-Pro Sliders Madden 22(Current/Next Gen)

                  Originally posted by Steely McBeam
                  Similar feelings. I would consider trying the CPU tackling 60. Not sure how this impacts the zone out plays but going from 55 to 60 CPU tackling I found the inside runs where nothing was really happening that net 4 yards were reduced by a couple of yards when D-line grabbed people.
                  In agreement with you after the game I played...Pit (me) 17 vs. Buf 3(cpu at home) 3rd quarter with new patch



                  Notables:
                  Harris: 23 -118yds (run blocking at 0 on all pro)
                  0 sacks from J. Hughes (88 FMV against RT Moore 65 PBF)

                  Will lower PB FOR HUM AND CPU to 25

                  Defensive line should be holding the line with Hughes, Oliver, Addison, butler (@73 BSH)
                  Offensive line for Pit besides Turner (81 rblk) was at 70 or 69 Park

                  Harris should not be getting over 5yds per carry ( my personal opinion should be 2 to 3 yes per carry)

                  When I adjusted tackling to 60 and restarted game I'm not seeing any fall forward animations and Harris is currently at 10 rushes for 38 yes. Looks much better but I'm going to test with Derrick Henry to make sure I'm breaking tackles like I should. If that works I will move tackling to 60 in my original post

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                  • kzdwfy
                    Pro
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 754

                    #10
                    Re: Leon N All-Pro Sliders Madden 22(Current/Next Gen)

                    Happy so far: Offensive update: Chiefs 17 (Cpu at home) vs CLE ( ME)

                    chubb (BTK 96) 11 - 87yds (Tackling had Najee slowed down but Chubb still was breaking tackles. I will adjust tackling to 60 moving forward)

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                    • kzdwfy
                      Pro
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 754

                      #11
                      Re: Leon N All-Pro Sliders Madden 22(Current/Next Gen)

                      With updated 9/2 sliders:
                      DAL 13 (ME) VS TB 17 (CPU AT HOME) Halftime

                      Notables:
                      2 fumbles by cpu, 1 by me (I'll probably wait 3 games before I make a determination but the average should be 2.59 per game)
                      T. Brady 18-26 201yds 2tds 0int (beautiful stats by CPU)
                      E. Elliot 18-98yds 4btks(I'm ok because they have a top tier o-line and I get shut down when I use lesser O-lines and running backs)
                      R Jones 9-43yds 3btks
                      TB 3 sacks DAL 1 Sack ( looks good so far, Suh has both sacks with his mismatch)
                      1 penalty ( I will up these looking at other slider thread penalty settings)

                      So far...so good!!!

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                      • kzdwfy
                        Pro
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 754

                        #12
                        Re: Leon N All-Pro Sliders Madden 22(Current/Next Gen)

                        CLE 31(me) vs KC 13 (cpu at home)

                        Notables:

                        We know this score looks horrible but there were some good things

                        Mahomes 28-44 317yds 1td (I like how much pressure we got the whole game and I like his inaccuracy although he missed maybe a little too many deep passes but the stats look good
                        Mayfield 13-25 111 yds (C.Jones had no pressure with a 96pmv against both of my tackles with 80 and 81 pass block)

                        Chubb 34-200yds 11btk (all my linemen average around 80 run block while the front seven for the Chiefs are around 66 bsh and Nandi and Jones @85 in their bsh rating)

                        Helaire 7-29 5btk

                        CLE 6 sacks, 3 forced fumbles (Garrett had 3.5 sacks and their tackle is a Rookie on the right side with a 66pbp and 70pbf pass block rating against Garrett, Clowney 1.5 sacks 84 pm 78 fmv against Brown 85 pbp 78pbf) Clooney should have no sacks
                        KC 0 sacks, 1int

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                        • kzdwfy
                          Pro
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 754

                          #13
                          Re: Leon N All-Pro Sliders Madden 22(Current/Next Gen)

                          With updated 9/17 sliders:
                          ATL 25 (ME AT HOME) VS PHI 24 (CPU) F

                          Notables:

                          2 fumbles by cpu (I'll probably wait 3 games before I make a determination but the average should be 2.59 per game)

                          M. Ryan 23-40 224yds 1tds 0int
                          J. Hurts 20-33 168yds 0tds 0 ints 2 fumbles(beautiful stats by CPU QB

                          M. Sanders 23-188 3tds (All I can say is Atlanta defense is bad lol)
                          J. Hurts 10-93yds (I'm so glad they fixed CPU QBs)
                          M. Davis 16-53yds (Tough sledding for my RB but thats how it should have been)

                          PHI 2 sacks ATL 3 sacks (looks good so far, Jarrett with a sack)

                          5 penalties total (SMH)

                          So far...so good!!!

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                          • Von Dozier
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 2196

                            #14
                            Re: Leon N All-Pro Sliders Madden 22(Current/Next Gen)

                            Really liking the way these play. What are you using for injuries and fatigue?

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                            • kzdwfy
                              Pro
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 754

                              #15
                              Re: Leon N All-Pro Sliders Madden 22(Current/Next Gen)

                              Originally posted by Von Dozier
                              Really liking the way these play. What are you using for injuries and fatigue?
                              Fatigue, I'm still working on and injuries are at 30 I believe

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