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  • jumbonote
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    • Nov 2018
    • 92

    #1

    Real Simulation for Modern Compact Game Fifa 22

    We're back for FIFA 22 and once again trying to develop sliders to resemble the compactness, speed and transition of a modern game. I encourage users of these sliders to contribute their findings so together we can get as close to a near-perfect realistic sim of the modern game. What I've noticed with all other sliders is that it lacks engagement with midfielders in defending, and lacks overall compactness of a modern game where the defensive line to an attacking line would be no more than 30-40m. The compactness is crucial in simulating real football. In developing these sliders, I've looked at 4 main things to get as close to a real simulation of the modern football game. Pace, Space (or lack of), Engagement & Transition.

    PACE: The pace of the ball and movement of players has been closely monitored and compared to side by side in viewing many football matches on a screen next to FIFA 22 in order to get the balance right. I have slowed it down so that a game can go from a walking pace, but can accelerate at any given time into a frenzy....Change of pace is critical to emulate the modern game.

    SPACE: In the modern game....there isn't much space at all. The space between the defensive back line to the forward line is very compact, and very rarely stretches more than 40m. Most teams play between a 30m-40m compactness between the back line - forward line. It makes teams hard to break down, and requires opposition that can transition quickly from defense to attack a chance to stretch a defense. All sliders I've used in the past and the vanilla version of FIFA are terrible at this crucial part of the game.

    ENGAGEMENT: In the modern game, all players defend and all players attack. There are exceptions to the rule, however, most teams play total football. These sliders try to emulate this, so that all players are engaged in defense and attack

    TRANSITION: In order to break down teams and stretch them...defending teams need to transition into attack quickly and hit on the counter to open up chances. Hold meaningless possession creates very little chances as a team will get behind the ball in defense and close up all the space so that there are very few chances.

    All of these attributes was what I have been looking at in order to create sliders that represent the modern game. I have played at a semi professional level and coached at an amateur level...and am a keen student of the coaching game. I find that most community sliders don't look at critical aspects of the game in recreating what the modern game is all about. Please give them a try and let me know what you think.

    set V 1.2 15/10/22

    Some values have been changed courtesy of Spoony Pizzas youtube. Pace and accelaration and bpass speed.

    Speed - slow
    Level - LEGENDARY
    Half Length - 15 minutes
    Broadcast Camera
    PS5

    Sprint Speed: 37/37
    Acceleration: 65/65
    Shot Error: 60/60
    Pass Error: 77/77
    Shot Speed: 47/47
    Pass Speed: 25/25
    Injury Frequency: 70/70
    Injury Severity: 20/20
    Goalkeeper Ability: 68/68
    Marking: 50/50
    Run Frequency: 2/2
    Line Height: 80/80
    Line Length: 0/0
    Line Width: 40/40
    Fullback Positioning: 70/70
    First Touch Control: 100/100
    Last edited by jumbonote; 10-14-2021, 05:37 PM.
  • TopSide83
    MVP
    • Sep 2016
    • 1402

    #2
    Re: Real Simulation for Modern Compact Game Fifa 22

    I’m gonna give these a go tonight before bed. Thanks for sharing

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    • jumbonote
      Rookie
      • Nov 2018
      • 92

      #3
      Re: Real Simulation for Modern Compact Game Fifa 22

      Let me know how you go and let me know if you suggest any changes to any of the values, I will give them a try....these are just a preliminary set. For Fifa 20, we had a great set that played very well and was a game changer according to many users. Hope to reach that eventually with these sliders.

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      • kopo79
        Just started!
        • Mar 2018
        • 3

        #4
        Re: Real Simulation for Modern Compact Game Fifa 22

        im gonna test these sliders.
        i just noticed some new setting in fifa 22.
        player based difficulty.

        could that be used to feel teams have more cap...
        like barcelona - granada?

        nevermind...
        it seems that player based difficulty is made that every team has 2 players that make "difference".
        even hacken from swedish league has it.
        dont really understand that setting.
        Last edited by kopo79; 10-04-2021, 11:19 AM.

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        • jumbonote
          Rookie
          • Nov 2018
          • 92

          #5
          Re: Real Simulation for Modern Compact Game Fifa 22

          Made a mistake in the first set, Fullback Positioning was meant to be 10, not 70. Edited my first post to reflect this

          Fullback Positionong 10/10

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          • surgeon222
            Rookie
            • Oct 2013
            • 6

            #6
            Re: Real Simulation for Modern Compact Game Fifa 22

            I really enjoyed your FIFA 20 sliders and will give your sliders a try. Are the sliders meant for Next Gen version of the game?

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            • jumbonote
              Rookie
              • Nov 2018
              • 92

              #7
              Re: Real Simulation for Modern Compact Game Fifa 22

              Originally posted by surgeon222
              I really enjoyed your FIFA 20 sliders and will give your sliders a try. Are the sliders meant for Next Gen version of the game?
              Yes next gen sliders. Tested on ps5

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              • christosbalt
                Rookie
                • Sep 2021
                • 71

                #8
                Re: Real Simulation for Modern Compact Game Fifa 22

                I am really glad you came out with a set because I really enjoyed your fifa20 sliders, it was close as possible to a simulation . I like to play on full manual because it makes the game more fun, unpredictable and rewarding. Do you suggest to turn pass and shot error at 50 for the user? And do you have any other suggestions for the rest of the settings? I will give them a try and I hope I can come back with some feedback to help the set.

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                • jumbonote
                  Rookie
                  • Nov 2018
                  • 92

                  #9
                  Re: Real Simulation for Modern Compact Game Fifa 22

                  Originally posted by christosbalt
                  I am really glad you came out with a set because I really enjoyed your fifa20 sliders, it was close as possible to a simulation . I like to play on full manual because it makes the game more fun, unpredictable and rewarding. Do you suggest to turn pass and shot error at 50 for the user? And do you have any other suggestions for the rest of the settings? I will give them a try and I hope I can come back with some feedback to help the set.
                  Thanks for your positive comments, glad you enjoyed them! If you're playing manual, I'd go 50 or there abouts for shooting and passing. It's hard enough as it is let alone adding an extra layer of toughness. As a second suggestion, play around with the speed of the game. Try it on SLOW and on NORMAL. I've left it at normal and it may seem slightly faster than Matts set. I've been watching alot of EPL and the Championship side by side with Fifa 22 on, and although the speed of the game may seem a tad quick in the first half as players are exciteable and fresh like in the realworld....it always slows down to a good realistic pace in the second half as stamina starts to wear. The other sliders sets I find get too sluggish and unrealistically slow in the second half and it feels like you're steering a bus rather than an elite player.

                  I've been testing these allot in the English Championship, so it may not be a good fit for EPL and other top leagues.

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                  • christosbalt
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2021
                    • 71

                    #10
                    Re: Real Simulation for Modern Compact Game Fifa 22

                    After playing some matches in the EPL and in the championship, as you said it is a bit fast for the top leagues and I find that the fb are sitting really deep(maybe the mistake you made at the beginning for the value was correct lol). Also I feel that the cpu are too accurate with passes (90%) each game. Otherwise the line and compactness off the teams is really good! Finishing and keepers are also good! For sure it doesn't feel sluggish

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                    • jumbonote
                      Rookie
                      • Nov 2018
                      • 92

                      #11
                      Re: Real Simulation for Modern Compact Game Fifa 22

                      New set coming today

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                      • jumbonote
                        Rookie
                        • Nov 2018
                        • 92

                        #12
                        Re: Real Simulation for Modern Compact Game Fifa 22

                        New set. Extreme settings....but it works
                        set V 1.1 09/10/22

                        Speed - Normal
                        Level - LEGENDARY
                        Half Length - 15 minutes


                        Sprint Speed: 10/10
                        Acceleration: 49/49
                        Shot Error: 82/82
                        Pass Error: 55/55
                        Shot Speed: 47/47
                        Pass Speed: 40/40
                        Injury Frequency: 65/65
                        Injury Severity: 75/75
                        Goalkeeper Ability: 49/49
                        Marking: 80/80
                        Run Frequency: 5/5
                        Line Height: 100/100
                        Line Length: 0/0
                        Line Width: 40/40
                        Fullback Positioning: 50/50
                        First Touch Control: 85/85
                        Last edited by jumbonote; 10-09-2021, 07:15 AM.

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                        • christosbalt
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2021
                          • 71

                          #13
                          Re: Real Simulation for Modern Compact Game Fifa 22

                          I have replied my impressions but my post didn't come through, I don't know why. I will try again

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                          • christosbalt
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2021
                            • 71

                            #14
                            Re: Real Simulation for Modern Compact Game Fifa 22

                            I played some games with the new set, the speed even in the EPL is good, the compactness of the teams are like in real football, the 80 on marking is a game changer, my AI teammates intercept as a result the Cpu make more mistakes in passes so there passing stats are more realistic. The only problem I see is the backline of the teams is too high,in each game I came at least 5 times 1-on-1 with the keeper. I will try Matt's value at 65 see how it works and maybe width at 45. For sure an improvement from the first set. Thank you

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                            • jumbonote
                              Rookie
                              • Nov 2018
                              • 92

                              #15
                              Re: Real Simulation for Modern Compact Game Fifa 22

                              The more I'm playing, the more I'm finding some holes with this set. The biggest problem is when playing teams that have high pressing tactics like Liverpool, you can easily break their lines with a few through balls. Will definitely drop the defense line back to maybe 60. Will post my new set soon.

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