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  • Detroit Tigers
    MVP
    • Mar 2018
    • 1376

    #1

    Presentation Isn't Just Bad, It's Infuriatingly Stupid

    Let's break some of this down for a second.

    First of all, like half of this presentation is from some weirdo crotch-shot fisheye angle that are not only eyesores but are frankly weird af. I had a mind to start screencapoing some of this garbage and complain loudly somewhere. Digital crotch all over my screen at weird extreme zoom fisheye angles. I understand it's just the defecation coming from their failed "beyond broadcast" replay angles but that needs to go too. Get rid of this garbage. Not kidding at all.

    Second, let's talk about how timeouts, injuries and penalties all wipe any replay or further discussion of the previous play. The biggest plays of the damn game occur under these condition all the time, so roughly half (if not more) of the biggest plays of a game are met with a horrible "TIMEOUT TIMEOUT TIMEOUT" screenwipe (that's ugly af btw) and a panorama of the stadium. Biggest play of the game and there's no "presentation" for it at all. This happens multiple times per game, where IRL you'd be getting FOUR replays alongside elaborative analysis, Madden is flashing MADDEN 22 into your face and moving on to the next play. This happens way, way, way too much.

    And what on earth even ARE these sideline cutscenes? I watch a fake coach talking up a DT and the QB (who's on the field, no idea why he's at the meeting) for seemingly no reason at all, just to get to my replay? Some of these are loooong as hell. Why are they there? Are they contextual at all? I just wanna see the replay.

    I guess I'm saying somebody needs to tell someone that penalties, injuries, timeouts, and these no-context, inaccurate sideline cutscenes are destroying whatever presentation happens to be in here.
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  • reverend_heat
    MVP
    • Aug 2002
    • 1775

    #2
    Re: Presentation Isn't Just Bad, It's Infuriatingly Stupid

    Unfortunately you are completely correct. How about roughing the passer never being replayed but literally every fg attempted is shown via replay, not only that but someone at EA decided that the best replay angle of a fg is to show it from the side traveling through the air, robbing the viewer of any proper perspective of the kick. I want replays of important fg’s or extremely long ones, and how about a proper view? Either behind the kicker or behind the goalposts. Sad that I could list presentation issues all day. It needs a 100 percent rework from scratch right along with the entire Madden game itself.

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    • kennylc321
      Pro
      • Aug 2018
      • 931

      #3
      Re: Presentation Isn't Just Bad, It's Infuriatingly Stupid

      This is the hill you want to die on!?! Ok. To each his own 🤷🏾*♂️

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      • pantherfan076
        Rookie
        • Nov 2011
        • 325

        #4
        Re: Presentation Isn't Just Bad, It's Infuriatingly Stupid

        Originally posted by reverend_heat
        Unfortunately you are completely correct. How about roughing the passer never being replayed but literally every fg attempted is shown via replay, not only that but someone at EA decided that the best replay angle of a fg is to show it from the side traveling through the air, robbing the viewer of any proper perspective of the kick. I want replays of important fg’s or extremely long ones, and how about a proper view? Either behind the kicker or behind the goalposts. Sad that I could list presentation issues all day. It needs a 100 percent rework from scratch right along with the entire Madden game itself.
        Here's a random thought to create a quick fix... The NFL remove their own heads from their own booties and allow someone else to have the license!? I think I should get a prize or something for this novel idea... maybe!?

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        • Cory Levy
          Pro
          • Dec 2010
          • 521

          #5
          Re: Presentation Isn't Just Bad, It's Infuriatingly Stupid

          The mixing and matching of positional players has always been a big pet peeve of mine with regards to presentation. It's like they don't even understand how the sidelines process and work to the point where "it's probably just like a little party with everybody chilling out, right?".



          Why do we see a WR posing for a picture surrounded by backup defensive players and the Punter instead of something natural like defensive guys moving off the bench to let the incoming offensive skill players have a seat or after a big sideline catch a backup WR claps that starting WR's back and gushes over his big catch? It'd be so easy to literally just watch a football game and make a list of generic "cut scenes" instead of going for such over the top dramatics in every game.
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          • ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
            MVP
            • Dec 2009
            • 4682

            #6
            Re: Presentation Isn't Just Bad, It's Infuriatingly Stupid

            Originally posted by reverend_heat
            Unfortunately you are completely correct. How about roughing the passer never being replayed but literally every fg attempted is shown via replay, not only that but someone at EA decided that the best replay angle of a fg is to show it from the side traveling through the air, robbing the viewer of any proper perspective of the kick. I want replays of important fg’s or extremely long ones, and how about a proper view? Either behind the kicker or behind the goalposts. Sad that I could list presentation issues all day. It needs a 100 percent rework from scratch right along with the entire Madden game itself.
            It’s like guys who don’t watch football designed the presentation.

            That’s not what happened though. What happened is they gave someone too much creative freedom on the one thing you DON’T want a lot of creative freedom for. “Beyond broadcast” was “beyond” a mistake.
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            • mdotjenkins
              Rookie
              • Sep 2020
              • 103

              #7
              Re: Presentation Isn't Just Bad, It's Infuriatingly Stupid

              Originally posted by ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
              It’s like guys who don’t watch football designed the presentation.

              That’s not what happened though. What happened is they gave someone too much creative freedom on the one thing you DON’T want a lot of creative freedom for. “Beyond broadcast” was “beyond” a mistake.


              I’m starting to think people who never have watched or played football designed this whole game. It’s sad how unrealistic and goofy this game is


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              • Vazione
                Rookie
                • Aug 2016
                • 251

                #8
                Re: Presentation Isn't Just Bad, It's Infuriatingly Stupid

                Don’t forget the amount of stadium panoramas.

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                • oneamongthefence
                  Nothing to see here folks
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 5683

                  #9
                  Re: Presentation Isn't Just Bad, It's Infuriatingly Stupid

                  At least some of y'all got new presentation this year. Last gen is completely unchanged including the pregame clips that show scenes of the game that hasn't been played yet.

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                  • Armor and Sword
                    The Lama
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 21798

                    #10
                    Re: Presentation Isn't Just Bad, It's Infuriatingly Stupid

                    Huge area of opportunity for EA next cycle. Better than 21 but way behind The Show and NBA2K

                    By a country mile.


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                    • Playmakers
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 15419

                      #11
                      Re: Presentation Isn't Just Bad, It's Infuriatingly Stupid

                      I hate that they removed the starting lineups

                      Typical EA add one thing and then remove another.....

                      It seems like they haven't got presentation right in over a decade which is sad.
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                      • NoleFan
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 12856

                        #12
                        Re: Presentation Isn't Just Bad, It's Infuriatingly Stupid

                        I wish there was a setting to change the frequency of replays. I'd prefer just post-play cut scenes. I'd likely never skip them. lol
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                        • Armor and Sword
                          The Lama
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 21798

                          #13
                          Re: Presentation Isn't Just Bad, It's Infuriatingly Stupid

                          Originally posted by Playmakers
                          I hate that they removed the starting lineups



                          Typical EA add one thing and then remove another.....



                          It seems like they haven't got presentation right in over a decade which is sad.


                          For me Madden 25 was the last time I felt like it was trying to be broadcast “like”.

                          They have gone in different direction.

                          21 was blech so 22 is certainly an improvement but not where some of us want it to be.

                          Post play replays are definitely sexy now though. But again this is a huge area of opportunity.


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                          • Hooe
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 21555

                            #14
                            Re: Presentation Isn't Just Bad, It's Infuriatingly Stupid

                            Speaking to other presentation elements that are in the game but aren’t executed well - I know EA loves their stadium blimp camera shots, and they indeed are pretty, but with the addition of full 3D audio on next-gen systems, the sudden silence at play call whenever one of these camera shots gets on screen is pretty damn jarring.

                            If the commentary team had more lines to fill the dead air at play call, it wouldn’t be nearly as bad, but right now it’s just silence when that happens and it’s just not good.

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                            • Playmakers
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 15419

                              #15
                              Re: Presentation Isn't Just Bad, It's Infuriatingly Stupid

                              Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                              For me Madden 25 was the last time I felt like it was trying to be broadcast “like”.

                              They have gone in different direction.

                              21 was blech so 22 is certainly an improvement but not where some of us want it to be.

                              Post play replays are definitely sexy now though. But again this is a huge area of opportunity.


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                              Yeah 25 was nice

                              Can't believe it's been that long since we've had a quality presentation package.

                              Something they need to seriously start looking at down the road.
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