5-Out Offense

[MoreThanAGamer]

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What's really funny though. It's Indiana playbook is full of 5 Out plays hahahaha [emoji102]

Jeebs with the dagger three from the corner. LOLOLOL. Mike Breen - BANG!

[ksuttonjr76]

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Funny. The Limited game mode in MyTeam is proving that these bums can't play without the 5-out offense. For reference, in the Limited game mode, you have to build your weekly 13-man roster based on certain restrictions. This week, you can't use any players with a 3PT rating above 75.

You can only imagine how my opponents are falling apart on offense.

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[jeebs9]

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Funny. The Limited game mode in MyTeam is proving that these bums can't play without the 5-out offense. For reference, in the Limited game mode, you have to build your weekly 13-man roster based on certain restrictions. This week, you can't use any players with a 3PT rating above 75.

You can only imagine how my opponents are falling apart on offense.

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Which is why I never will get into My Team. I like playing with rule teams because of the strength vs Weakness for each team. Even the best rated team in real life has weakness (injuries, shooting, size).

Anytime I see a user pick what someone would call a bad time (rockets, Pistons, Pelicans, and Magic). I know I'm in for a good game. I'm not going to see garbage we see (zigzag, 5 Out, no subs and others)

[ksuttonjr76]

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Which is why I never will get into My Team. I like playing with rule teams because of the strength vs Weakness for each team. Even the best rated team in real life has weakness (injuries, shooting, size).

Anytime I see a user pick what someone would call a bad time (rockets, Pistons, Pelicans, and Magic). I know I'm in for a good game. I'm not going to see garbage we see (zigzag, 5 Out, no subs and others)

My point is that if the game was fundamentally realistic with shooting percentages when it came three-pointers, people will actually and genuinely would not know how to play this game. In short, they wouldn't know how to play real basketball.

I'm still making my fair share of three-point shots, but I'm not shooting at a 90% clip and neither is my opponent. The restriction this week makes me realize how many people don't know or understand basic mid-range shooting or post moves. It's pathetic right now.

It's the high three-point shooting percentages despite what the defense do that makes the 5-out offense so powerful.

[jfsolo]

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My point is that if the game was fundamentally realistic with shooting percentages when it came three-pointers, people will actually and genuinely would not know how to play this game. In short, they wouldn't know how to play real basketball.

I'm still making my fair share of three-point shots, but I'm not shooting at a 90% clip and neither is my opponent. The restriction this week makes me realize how many people don't know or understand basic mid-range shooting or post moves. It's pathetic right now.

It's the high three-point shooting percentages despite what the defense do that makes the 5-out offense so powerful.

It's the controlling factor for all of the gameplay design and implementation now which dooms online play to always be about mechanics/AI/animation exploitation and not real basketball strategy.

[jeebs9]

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My point is that if the game was fundamentally realistic with shooting percentages when it came three-pointers, people will actually and genuinely would not know how to play this game. In short, they wouldn't know how to play real basketball.

I'm still making my fair share of three-point shots, but I'm not shooting at a 90% clip and neither is my opponent. The restriction this week makes me realize how many people don't know or understand basic mid-range shooting or post moves. It's pathetic right now.

It's the high three-point shooting percentages despite what the defense do that makes the 5-out offense so powerful.

It's the controlling factor for all of the gameplay design and implementation now which dooms online play to always be about mechanics/AI/animation exploitation and not real basketball strategy.

Got it.... I see what your saying now.

[ksuttonjr76]

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It's the controlling factor for all of the gameplay design and implementation now which dooms online play to always be about mechanics/AI/animation exploitation and not real basketball strategy.

Man, for real! Playing that mode without the fear of 3's been automatic makes with just a sliver of light was eye opening.

What's also wild to me is people in Reddit calling it the "worse" week thus far this year. Goes to show that if they ever made a game with realistic shooting percentages under the correct context, people would lose their minds.

[ILLSmak]

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For competitive players the only point is to win so exploiting game mechanics is the logical thing to do. I blame dev teams for allowing success to be had in games with minimal knowledge of the fundamentals of a sport. Competitive players will never change unless forced to, never.

I agree in regards to kids but personally i changed as i grew. Im competitive. I want to challenge myself and my opponent as well as enjoy the game, just like u think of cp3 and his low blows; some people will do anything, but as they mature, they usually change despite not losing their competitive fire. But yea hs/early college age it was whatever. I might have gone in without that mindset but once people put the cheese on you and you realize hey i can do that better, its ovaa.

But yea winnin aint enough anymore to drive me. Once u win enough u develop a kind of security about winning and just laugh at peoples exploits. Well mostly haha when youre not pulling out your hair. Doing the same thing over and over isnt enough for people who been playin the game forever.

-Smak

[lemarflacco]

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And comments like this is EXACTLY why people think it's "real life". No, they don't hunt the slow-footed center on EVERY SINGLE possession, otherwise the only person who would be scoring would be the one attacking the slow-footer center on every single possession.

I've was playing basketball since 5th grade, and I have NEVER played for a coach who he told 3 of us to sit outside the 3PT line, watch the PnR action between the PF/C and PG, and being ready to catch and shoot. NEVER. NEVER. NEVER. NEVER.

Even when I was that C/PF guarding the pick and roll, I have NEVER met a player who shot 80+% behind a screen. NEVER. NEVER. NEVER. I have NEVER met a player who was able to get to the bucket 95% of the time after a screen. NEVER. NEVER. NEVER. I got a bad back and bum knee, and I can still guard the PnR where it's no where near as successful as what happens in NBA 2K.

I can change my settings respectively and defend it, but every fricking game no matter what mode I'm playing??? Really??? Bums really don't know ANY other offense other the PnR???

Have you ever watched the James Harden rockets? And you guys will better off when you understand that Czar CAN NOT make a game that is going to be cheese proof. Thousands of ppl put in thousands of hours finding ways to exploit the game

Also watched the Hornets ABUSE Vucevic last night, Just kept going at him play after play in iso and pnr until the bulls sat him lol

[lemarflacco]

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And hey, It may be inevitable that online franchise may be the only way that you are going to be able to play to get "realistic percentages" with sliders.

Like my team lets you have a team with all 99 players with tons of badges lol wouldn't it be contradictory then to make this "fantasy" mode have realistic percentages?

[jeebs9]

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Have you ever watched the James Harden rockets? And you guys will better off when you understand that Czar CAN NOT make a game that is going to be cheese proof. Thousands of ppl put in thousands of hours finding ways to exploit the game

Also watched the Hornets ABUSE Vucevic last night, Just kept going at him play after play in iso and pnr until the bulls sat him lol

Yeah not much you can do there.

And hey, It may be inevitable that online franchise may be the only way that you are going to be able to play to get "realistic percentages" with sliders.

Like my team lets you have a team with all 99 players with tons of badges lol wouldn't it be contradictory then to make this "fantasy" mode have realistic percentages?

See this is why I stay away from that mode.

He just said it himself the other day with when they dropped 3 pointer ratings down 75.

That's why I play PNO. You always going to have a bad or a weak shooter on the floor. I can deal with that. But my whatever doesn't offer that ****. I really wish I could get into a League. I'm father now. So it's tough to get that time with other users. Sometimes I like just picking up a controller and get a quick game in.

[ksuttonjr76]

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How in the hell do people enjoy this damn game doing the same goofy *** offense on EVERY FREAKING possession? Doesn't that crap get boring at some point??????

[jeebs9]

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How in the hell do people enjoy this damn game doing the same goofy *** offense on EVERY FREAKING possession? Doesn't that crap get boring at some point??????

Well hey now. You people were doing the zig zag cheese right? Why would they stop doing this?

Again this is why I play PNO. Every team has it's weaknesses. But My Team that ****ing sucks. There is no weakness. Klay Thompson is back on the current Warriors now. But I don't feel the pain. I still have a choice of leaving Draymond Green or Looney, Iggy, and a few others. Wiggins has been solid from there. But I pick and choice with him.

I think it all points to what you were saying before about the overall 3 point shooting. I've been playing with OKC and Pistons. Pretty bad 3 point shooting teams. I have to take extra steps to hit a 3 pointer with each one of those players.

2K devs need to feature out the settings for their games that's the biggest break down right now.

[ksuttonjr76]

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Well hey now. You people were doing the zig zag cheese right? Why would they stop doing this?

Again this is why I play PNO. Every team has it's weaknesses. But My Team that ****ing sucks. There is no weakness. Klay Thompson is back on the current Warriors now. But I don't feel the pain. I still have a choice of leaving Draymond Green or Looney, Iggy, and a few others. Wiggins has been solid from there. But I pick and choice with him.

I think it all points to what you were saying before about the overall 3 point shooting. I've been playing with OKC and Pistons. Pretty bad 3 point shooting teams. I have to take extra steps to hit a 3 pointer with each one of those players.

2K devs need to feature out the settings for their games that's the biggest break down right now.

It's definitely not as bad in PNO, but I still saw it. I think that was what blew my mind. It was like..."Even in PNO, these bums will still try the 5-out offense".

[MrWrestling3]

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When it comes to 2K after a certain point I came to realize that while there are ways for someone that wants a "real basketball experience" to have fun with the game...most of the online content is just not geared to that experience, it is geared to casual players that want to play in a style more reminiscent of street or And 1 style basketball mixed with some simple arcade style mechanics.