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  • AZYankee
    Rookie
    • Jul 2017
    • 124

    #1

    AZYankees Old Guy Quick Count Veteran Sliders

    As the title indicates, these are quick count sliders, tailored for guys like me north of 50 that don't have the stick skills we had when we were playing Coleco Baseball in the 80's

    So why veteran difficulty? Quite honestly I like the animations better on that level, seems to play smoother, less "arcady" and I swear I have seen animations on this difficulty that I don't see on others. Of course that could also be old guy memory, but I'm sticking to that story.

    So the challenge was then to create sliders that still kept the CPU competitive, while providing an enjoyable, less frustrating experience for the seasoned gamer. I am now comfortable with these and ready to start my Yankee's franchise after 50+ games of testing/tweaking.

    Final Version 05/03/22 See* for change Finally happy with additional tweaks, mainly centered around timing and solid hits. Did additional franchise testing with Yankees and Pirates, to get a good range of good/average/bad player skills and I think these are good to go. Starting a Cubs franchise for results tracking, until the final rosters come out for my official Yankee franchise.

    Hitting Difficulty- Veteran
    Hitting Interface: Directional
    Guess Pitch: Off
    Baserunning: Auto

    Pitching Difficulty- Veteran
    Pitching Interface: Classic
    Pitch Confidence: On

    Fielding: Auto
    Throwing Interface: Buttons
    Throwing Meter: Off

    General:
    Gameplay Style: Simulation
    Fielding Aids: Off
    Strike Zone: Off
    Hot Zones: Off
    Wind: On
    Dynamic Difficulty Updates: N/A
    Balks: User preference

    Umpire Accuracy: User Preference, I go with umpire specific

    User/CPU

    Contact: 3/7* (CPU contact needed a slight bump and this separates how they hit good vs bad pitchers)
    Power: 3/5*
    Timing: 3/7 (3 is fine as you will get plenty of hard hit balls and dingers, especially with solid hits now at 5. If you do bump to 4, definitely increase pitch speed to compensate, in fact lower pitch speed a click before you bump timing as the difference from 3 to 4 is significant)
    Foul Frequency: 0/2
    Solid Hits: 5*/5 - This setting is definitely not as OP this year, so 5 is proving vital to get enough doubles
    SP Stamina: 5/5
    RP Stamina: 7/7
    Pitcher Control: 1/6 (These play in conjunction with the consistency sliders)
    Pitcher Consistency: 0/0 (The reason for user on 0 is to prevent you from painting the corners, even with the lower control. For CPU, control bumped so the pitchers are not just plain wild and this at 0 to stop the CPU from giving you a waist level meatball when behind in the count. Also brings in ratings more for human and CPU)
    Strike Frequency: N/A on QC
    CPU Manager Hook: 5
    CPU Pickoffs: 0
    Pitch Speed: User Preference I use 5 now. This is the one to bump up a notch if user Ks are a bit low, or down if you have issues with the lower timing.

    Fielding/Baserunning

    Infield Errors: 7
    Outfield Errors: 6
    Throwing Errors Infield: 1
    Throwing Errors Outfield: 5
    Fielder Run Speed: 1 (Thanks to Bryanm1982 for most of the speed sliders)
    Fielder Reaction: 3 (This has to be bumped to 3 in this mode, any lower and fielders stand there like posts until the ball is halfway to them)
    Arm IF: 1
    Arm OF: 5
    Baserunner Speed: 2 (Gets the right amount of infield hits being a tick up from arm, and faster players advance accordingly on hits. Doubles are solid and triples happen if you have some speed)
    Steal Ability: 6
    Steal Frequency: 4
    Wind: 5
    Game Played Injury Frequency: 8
    Simulation Injury Frequency: 5

    There you have it, I will post game results here as I go, but I really like how pitchers perform close to their ratings and Joey Gallo in my testing was still hitting .190
    Last edited by AZYankee; 05-03-2022, 06:26 PM.
  • AZYankee
    Rookie
    • Jul 2017
    • 124

    #2
    Re: AZYankees Old Guy Quick Count Veteran Sliders

    Opening day

    Yankees 4-7-0
    Rangers 3-5-0

    Rizzo leads off with a home run and the Yanks never trail, Cole had a rough 3rd, but was otherwise was solid.

    2B
    Texas: Garver, Calhoun

    HR
    NYY: Rizzo (1), Stanton (1)

    Pitching
    NYY: 4 BB, 10 K
    Texas: 3 BB, 8 K

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    • rhouserjr0614
      Rookie
      • Jan 2017
      • 491

      #3
      Re: AZYankees Old Guy Quick Count Veteran Sliders

      Going to try these out!


      Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

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      • AZYankee
        Rookie
        • Jul 2017
        • 124

        #4
        Re: AZYankees Old Guy Quick Count Veteran Sliders

        The Rangers pitching staff is horrible outside of Dunne as we complete a decisive 4 game sweep.

        Game 2
        Yankees 13-17-0
        Rangers 0-6-0
        This one was all about Joey Gallo, who slugged two circuit shots and Severino going the distance striking out 14 in a laugher, that included a 6 run outburst in the top of the 9th.

        2B
        NYY - Donaldson, Gallo, Torres
        Tex - Seager, Garver, Garcia

        HR
        NYY - Rizzo (2), Gallo 2 (2), Torres (1)
        Tex - None

        W/K
        NYY - W 3 K 7
        Tex - W 0 K 14

        Game 3
        Yankees 6-11-0
        Rangers 2-6-1
        Taillon turns in another gem, with his only mistakes both leaving the yard as the Yankees jumped to a 3-0 lead in the 1st and never looked back

        2B
        NYY - Stanton, Hicks
        Tex - Calhoun

        HR
        NYY - Hicks (1)Higashioka (1)
        Tex - Miller (1), Calhoun (1)

        W/K
        NYY - W 2 K 11
        Tex - W 1 K 4

        Game 4
        Yankees 9-11-0
        Rangers 3-9-1
        Another laugher and this is the most productive 3 game stretch I have had with these sliders offensively, so I look to taper off against Houston next. Torres stroked 3 doubles in this one to pace the attack, as Texas pitchers struggled to throw strikes.

        2B
        NYY - Gallo, Torres 3, Hicks
        Tex - Garcia

        HR
        NYY - Stanton (2)
        Tex - Miller (2)

        W/K
        NYY - W 6 K 8
        Tex - W 2 K 9

        Despite this opening series assault on Ranger pitching, we are only 6th in team batting average and 3rd in runs scored, though we are tied with the Dodgers for 1st in Home Runs with 9. What bodes well is we are also 5th in ERA as the pitching staff had a great series and I only had to use Chapman in game 1. 4-0 and we go to Houston next.

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        • dandeb
          Rookie
          • Jan 2005
          • 75

          #5
          Re: AZYankees Old Guy Quick Count Veteran Sliders

          From one old timer to another, I've enjoyed using these sliders. All Star was good, but using Veteran with your slider adjustments has made playing the game fun and still competitive.
          Thank you!

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          • AZYankee
            Rookie
            • Jul 2017
            • 124

            #6
            Re: AZYankees Old Guy Quick Count Veteran Sliders

            Originally posted by dandeb
            From one old timer to another, I've enjoyed using these sliders. All Star was good, but using Veteran with your slider adjustments has made playing the game fun and still competitive.
            Thank you!
            Thank you and glad you are enjoying them. So far the only thing I am scrutinizing further is human timing (possibly going to 3 from 4) and CPU contact, possibly going to 7, but want to get the sample size in Franchise bigger as nearly all of the initial testing was in exhibition mode. Pretty happy with everything else though.

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            • dandeb
              Rookie
              • Jan 2005
              • 75

              #7
              Re: AZYankees Old Guy Quick Count Veteran Sliders

              I'm also using the Yankees, and after leading by 3 against TX with Cole pitching, the Rangers came back and won 9 - 3. My pitching collapsed midway then settled down the last 4 innings not giving up any more runs. Like I said, it was interesting seeing the Yanks lose this way. I actually lowered CPU Power by a notch, and raised User Timing by one. Everyone plays differently and adjusts things to their liking and ability.
              Last edited by dandeb; 04-22-2022, 11:30 AM. Reason: Wanted to add

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              • AZYankee
                Rookie
                • Jul 2017
                • 124

                #8
                Re: AZYankees Old Guy Quick Count Veteran Sliders

                Off to Houston for a 3 game set

                Game 5
                Yankees 6-8-0
                Astros 5-11-1
                Nestor Cortez had a great outing, but the pen made it interesting allowing a 3 spot in the 9th as Stanton continues his hot hitting and we exploit Astro's wildness on the mound.

                2B
                NYY - Stanton
                Hou - Altuve, Bregman 2, Gurriel, Maldonado

                3B
                Hou - Goodrum

                HR
                NYY - Stanton (3), Hicks (2)
                Hou - Lee (1)

                W/K
                NYY - W 1 K 10
                Hou - W 6 K 7

                Game 6
                Yankees 2-9-0
                Astros 1-7-0
                This was a great pitchers duel between Cole and Urquidez, who both get no decisions as a Donaldson clout is the difference maker in the 9th, Chapman mows the Stro's down in order to secure the save.

                2B
                Hou - Alvarez

                HR
                NYY - Stanton (4) Donaldson (1)
                Hou - McCormick (2)

                W/K
                NYY - W 2 K 12
                Hou - W1 K 13

                Game 7
                Yankees 3-10-0
                Astros 8-10-0
                Severino, who was nails in his first start can't find the plate and doesn't get out of the 4th in this one, as the Astro's unleash a torrent of long balls as our 6 game win streak to start the campaign ends in inglorious fashion.

                2B
                NYY - Gallo, Hicks

                HR
                HYY - Rizzo (3)
                Hou - Brantley (1), Alvarez 2 (3), Maldonado (1)

                W/K
                NYY - W 6 K 8
                Hou - W 1 K 7
                Last edited by AZYankee; 04-23-2022, 08:46 AM.

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                • AZYankee
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2017
                  • 124

                  #9
                  Re: AZYankees Old Guy Quick Count Veteran Sliders

                  OP updated, have just been working to get that balance for Ks for the CPU and extra base hits for user. I will be starting a second franchise as well, probably Pirates or Tigers so I have two user teams with varying talent levels.

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                  • AZYankee
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2017
                    • 124

                    #10
                    Re: AZYankees Old Guy Quick Count Veteran Sliders

                    OP updated with what is looking like the final set at this stage, with tweaks revolving around making the CPU batter more dangerous and balancing extra base hits for the user.

                    Used extreme teams in franchise mode (Pirates and Yankees) to test and will now continue playing on a middle of the road team (Cubs) to expand the sample size while waiting for community rosters.

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                    • Inverarity
                      Rookie
                      • May 2003
                      • 145

                      #11
                      Re: AZYankees Old Guy Quick Count Veteran Sliders

                      Thanks for doing these. As a fellow old guy, I will give them a try!

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                      • AZYankee
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2017
                        • 124

                        #12
                        Re: AZYankees Old Guy Quick Count Veteran Sliders

                        Originally posted by Inverarity
                        Thanks for doing these. As a fellow old guy, I will give them a try!
                        Awesome and please share any feedback, I am trying to account for all variables by playing different teams, and more eyes help for sure

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                        • dandeb
                          Rookie
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 75

                          #13
                          Re: AZYankees Old Guy Quick Count Veteran Sliders

                          You're correct in saying the CPU hitting isn't dangerous enough. I'll try a few changes as well to see if that's possible.

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                          • AZYankee
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2017
                            • 124

                            #14
                            Re: AZYankees Old Guy Quick Count Veteran Sliders

                            Well, the object of the tweaks was to make the CPU offense more dangerous and starting a new franchise with the (hopefully) final set as a mid tier franchise, off to a good start. Careless/mediocre pitching took some lumps as the Cubs open the season.

                            Game 1
                            Cubs 4-9-0 2B 3, HR 1, W 3 K 13
                            Reds 2-8-0 2B 1, HR 2, W 0 K 8
                            Hendricks pitched a solid game, put left trailing 2-0 after 7. Cubs got to the Reds bullpen though and Frank Schwindel played hero with a 2 run blast in the 9th, though we struck out 13 times along the way.
                            Cubs HR: Schwindel (1)
                            W: Robertson 1-0

                            Game 2
                            Cubs 3-5-0 2B 2, HR 2, W 4, K 9
                            Reds 4-10-0 2B 2, HR 2, W 4, K 9
                            Marcus Stroman was money and left with a 3 run lead, which we carried into the 9th, Chris Martin came in to close it and imploded. Two HR to the first 3 batters faced and the lone out a fly to the wall. Should have pulled him then, put didn't and the Reds walk it off.
                            Cubs HR: Happ (1) Schwindel (2)
                            L: Martin 0-1

                            Game 3
                            Cubs 7-14-0 2B 2, HR 4, W 1, K 8
                            Reds 14-17-0 2B 4, HR 3, W 4, K 7
                            The gas cans were in full effect here, Wade Miley gets chased after 3 and trail 5-1. The Cubbies claw back behind the long ball and Clint Frazier's 2nd blast ties it at 7. Then another implosion as the Reds fashion a 7 run 8th to run away with it.
                            Cubs HR: Schwindel (3), Frazier 2 (2), Suzuki (1)
                            L: Wick 0-1

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                            • AZYankee
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2017
                              • 124

                              #15
                              Re: AZYankees Old Guy Quick Count Veteran Sliders

                              Game 4
                              Cardinals 1-3-0 2B 1, HR 0, W 1, K 11
                              Cubs 6-12-0 2B 1, HR 2, W 1, K10
                              After getting lambasted by the Reds for 17 hits last time out, Alec Mills turns in a gem, perfect through 6 2/3 he settles for the decisive win as Suzuki begins to shake off a slow start. (Schwindel is hitting well over .400 as well and filling Rizzo's cleats nicely)
                              Cubs HR: Contreras (1), Suzuki (2)
                              W: Mills 1-0

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