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  • Steve_OS
    Editor-in-Chief
    • Jul 2002
    • 33870

    #1

    Madden NFL 23 Gameplay Improvements Revealed - Pass Coverage, Pass Rush, QB Contain & Much More



    Gridiron Notes are back again this year as the team reveals Madden NFL 23 gameplay improvements....

    Written By: Steve Noah

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  • michaelhawj
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    • Jul 2015
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    #2
    Re: Madden NFL 23 Gameplay Details

    Gameplay details look so good but need to watch gameplay video and play it myself

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    • XtremeDunkz
      CNFL Commissioner
      • Aug 2007
      • 3414

      #3
      Re: Madden NFL 23 Gameplay Details

      I feel like I've heard all these things before. Guess I'll find out soon when the beta drops.

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      • canes21
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        • Sep 2008
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        Re: Madden NFL 23 Gameplay Details

        I didn't think in 2022 we'd see that they'd tout going from matching principles to spot dropping as an improvement to their gameplay, but here we are.

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        • Hooe
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          • Aug 2002
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          #5
          Re: Madden NFL 23 Gameplay Details

          We will be featuring ‘spot-drop’ zones as our core zone coverage concept within our defensive playbooks and AI.
          What? No. Why?

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          • XtremeDunkz
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            • Aug 2007
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            #6
            Re: Madden NFL 23 Gameplay Details

            Originally posted by CM Hooe
            What? No. Why?
            Because "simple"

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            • SolidSquid
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              • Aug 2014
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              #7
              Re: Madden NFL 23 Gameplay Details

              Originally posted by canes21
              I didn't think in 2022 we'd see that they'd tout going from matching principles to spot dropping as an improvement to their gameplay, but here we are.

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              Wait what? We are actively moving backwards? Didn’t they just redo all the zones maybe 2-3 years ago? We are going to go back to guys covering no one just standing in a certain spot?

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              • jfsolo
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                • May 2003
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                #8
                Re: Madden NFL 23 Gameplay Details

                Match Zone coverage concepts are still accessible through our Coach Adjustments menu during your play selection. Simply flipping the Zone Coverage Coach Adjustment to ‘Match’ will bring back our in-depth ruleset for match coverages, those that convert from zone to man during the play, when specifically calling the match coverage play types.


                Drift Logic for Deep Zone Defenders
                Drift Logic is all new coverage behavior for Deep Zone defenders. This logic prevents deep zone defenders from ‘drifting’ too far up the field without having a vertical threat in their area. This will prevent those ‘Third Window’ throws on deep crossing routes. Drift Logic allows the defender to recognize a receiver approaching his zone sooner, plaster him in coverage as he crosses his face, and not get beat underneath. Players told us those third-window crossers were completed too consistently and this new ‘drift’ logic aims to address that feedback.
                Zone Defender Locomotion
                We’ve captured a whole new set of defensive back specific movement animations and along with AI support, the defenders in Madden NFL 23 will back-pedal, flip their hips, strafe and look back at the ball more smoothly, more athletically, and more realistically. Not only will defensive backs look the part, but these new movement animations also get them to where they want to go with more efficiency, which will make passing windows against zone coverage much tighter.
                Route Specific Break-on-Throw Logic
                We’ve also added dynamic break times for each type of zone defender when facing specific routes. Zones that are supposed to take away specific routes or areas of the field will now break on the throw faster versus those routes than they will against routes their zones are not designed to take away. One example of this is a hard flat zone aggressively breaking on a route to the flat instead of leveraging deeper routes first; another is deep outside third defender in Cover 3 breaking faster when a corner route enters their zone.
                New End Zone Coverage Logic
                Previously, our deep zone defenders made little logic adjustments when they were covering in the endzone. This resulted in defenders squeezing down on routes breaking to the inside while disregarding the underneath zone defenders resulting in the sidelines and the corners of the end zone being left wide open. This year, those outside deep zone defenders stay outside and sit on those out-breaking or third window crossing routes. They let the route come to them and then they aggressively break on the throw.
                If folks are going to melt down, I hope they at least read all the info about zones changes before doing so.
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                • Broncos86
                  Orange and Blue!
                  • May 2009
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                  #9
                  Re: Madden NFL 23 Gameplay Details

                  *sigh* There's just no reason why PC shouldn't be a next-gen platform. Xbox is a glorified Windows machine anyways, it's the same damn platform more or less.

                  It's so irritating. I don't want to spend forever hunting for a damn PS5 / XBox, and pay stupid amounts of money, just to play next gen Madden. Everything in the article sounds fine, but I'll be playing it on PC. So I'll be missing out on things.

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                  • roadman
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                    • Aug 2003
                    • 26339

                    #10
                    Re: Madden NFL 23 Gameplay Details

                    jf, you read my mind.

                    Oy.

                    The main purpose of this change was to make the play-art in the play-call screen the central source of truth for players so they can better predict how their zones will react during the play.

                    Match Zone coverage concepts are still accessible through our Coach Adjustments menu during your play selection. Simply flipping the Zone Coverage Coach Adjustment to ‘Match’ will bring back our in-depth ruleset for match coverages, those that convert from zone to man during the play, when specifically calling the match coverage play types.

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                    • michaelhawj
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                      • Jul 2015
                      • 1852

                      #11
                      Re: Madden NFL 23 Gameplay Details

                      Originally posted by Broncos86
                      *sigh* There's just no reason why PC shouldn't be a next-gen platform. Xbox is a glorified Windows machine anyways, it's the same damn platform more or less.

                      It's so irritating. I don't want to spend forever hunting for a damn PS5 / XBox, and pay stupid amounts of money, just to play next gen Madden. Everything in the article sounds fine, but I'll be playing it on PC. So I'll be missing out on things.
                      what about xbox series S ? it is almost available everywhere so here is link : https://www.bestbuy.com/site/microso...?skuId=6430277

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                      • Broncos86
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                        • May 2009
                        • 5505

                        #12
                        Re: Madden NFL 23 Gameplay Details

                        Originally posted by michaelhawj
                        what about xbox series S ? it is almost available everywhere so here is link : https://www.bestbuy.com/site/microso...?skuId=6430277
                        Hmm. That's actually doable, I might pull the trigger on that. Thanks my man!

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                        • Hooe
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                          • Aug 2002
                          • 21554

                          #13
                          Madden NFL 23 Gameplay Details

                          Originally posted by jfsolo
                          If folks are going to melt down, I hope they at least read all the info about zones changes before doing so.
                          The issue is not that existing match zone concepts are still present; that was expected.

                          The issue is that EA hasn’t prioritized getting defenses to call modern coverages which actually get used in real life, and further appears to have not expanded the breadth of match coverage calls available.

                          I can’t play another year of Madden without any trips check in Cover 3 Match / Cover 3 Buzz Match. I can’t play another year of Madden where my only match coverage answers for 3x1 sets are Solo and Special out of Cover 4 Quarters / Palms. I can’t play another year of Madden with literally no effective coverage answer for quads formations for fast-four receivers, both of which in Madden 22 disable match coverage logic entirely regardless what the defense has called.

                          This is to say nothing about other missing modern defensive tactics such as two-gapping run fits, Brandon Staley’s gap-and-a-half DL run fits, creeper pressures, read blitzes, green dog blitzes, modern fronts such as BOSS and Tite, and so on.

                          Defense in Madden needs a ton of help to play effectively against all possible modern offensive threats and in a way that represents modern football, but Tiburon here is not only not moving the game forward with the times but squarely planting their flag in the ground of tactics that offensive coordinators have been pencil-whipping for thirty years now.
                          Last edited by Hooe; 06-02-2022, 10:32 AM.

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                          • PhillyPhanatic14
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                            • Jun 2015
                            • 4824

                            #14
                            Re: Madden NFL 23 Gameplay Details

                            Originally posted by CM Hooe
                            The issue is not that existing match zone concepts are still present; that was expected.

                            The issue is that EA hasn’t prioritized getting defenses to call modern coverages which actually get used in real life, and further appears to have not expanded the breadth of match coverage calls available.

                            I can’t play another year of Madden without any trips check in Cover 3 Match / Cover 3 Buzz Match. I can’t play another year of Madden where my only match coverage answers for 3x1 sets are Solo and Special out of Cover 4 Quarters / Palms. I can’t play another year of Madden with literally no effective coverage answer for quads formations for fast-four receivers, both of which in Madden 22 disable match coverage logic entirely regardless what the defense is called.

                            This is to say nothing about other missing modern defensive tactics such as two-gapping run fits, Brandon Staley’s gap-and-a-half DL run fits, creeper pressures, read blitzes, green dog blitzes, modern fronts such as BOSS and Tite, and so on.

                            Defense in Madden needs a ton of help to play effectively against all possible modern offensive threats and in a way that represents modern football, but Tiburon here is not only not moving the game forward with the times but squarely planting their flag in the ground of tactics that offensive coordinators have been pencil-whipping for thirty years now.

                            I think all of that is valid and I'd venture to say that Clint would even be on board with that from what we've seen of him the last few years. But this situation with zones, combined with their decision to take a ton of plays out of the playbooks, seems like a decision to make it easier to balance things with the competitive crowd. Less variables = less tuning, which I think EA would hope leads to less exploits and complaining from the very vocal competitive and MUT crowds.

                            That's my 2 cents on this. I think this line from the gameinformer article talking about the playbook subtractions sums up EA's line of thinking well, "The result, according to EA, is a better play-selection process and more polished gameplay since the team has fewer plays to worry about"

                            Gameplay polish is tougher to accomplish with more plays, more nuance, more realism. This year seems like "Simplify" is the EA buzzword that is influencing the game the most.

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                            • PhillyPhanatic14
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                              • Jun 2015
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                              #15
                              Re: Madden NFL 23 Gameplay Details

                              "We’ll do a deeper dive in a future Gridiron Notes on specific plays and other changes we’ve made for playbooks in Madden NFL 23."


                              EA promising another Playbook Blog when the last one they promised still hasn't made it out lol.

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