Managing Expectations

[Ovac1989]

Hi guys,



Long time chiser, NCAA lover, Revamped adorer.



There's so many things we can be excited for in next years NCAA release.


Is it wrong to think that the devs will just screw this up like Madden and it'll be focused on Ultimate Team. Bare dynasty mode with no depth. An engine that doesn't make it feel like football. Or that there will be the missing elements of creating an in depth experience(IE. Franchise in madden)



Should we just manage expectations instead of hoping it'll be what we want it to be?

[TarHeelPhenom]

Re: Managing Expectations

Hi guys,



Long time chiser, NCAA lover, Revamped adorer.



There's so many things we can be excited for in next years NCAA release.


Is it wrong to think that the devs will just screw this up like Madden and it'll be focused on Ultimate Team. Bare dynasty mode with no depth. An engine that doesn't make it feel like football. Or that there will be the missing elements of creating an in depth experience(IE. Franchise in madden)



Should we just manage expectations instead of hoping it'll be what we want it to be?

Haven't had a new college game in 9 years. Unless the game plays like 10 Yard Fight, then it really ain't Gon matter for me lol.

[WeFireThoseCannons]

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I will be fine as long as it has what they left with and a bit more. They obviously will need playoffs and the ability to increase teams or possibly go back to the other format.


transfer portal


still allow to edit players


move teams to conference like before.


an improved coaching carousel since the last one went by prestige only and never had actual interview process.


Have those and I am good, I simmed and built teams up majority of the time. I loved the coach feature since the gameplay was too easy and I had to restrict myself due to the bugs in cpu coverage. Game also had that automatic strip fumble feature one year.

[tril]

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for the first release
I'd be satisfied if it plays like and has the same features as NCAA 14 with updated conferences, teams, uniforms, a customizable playoff format, with updated graphics and animations.

[canes21]

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The gameplay will have be identical to Madden with some slight tweaks to be more like the college game. I'm not worried there.

Dynasty Mode has me slightly worried, but not all that much. The NCAA games never had truly deep dynasty modes. NCAA 14 actually has a pretty shallow dynasty mode overall, it just offered good customization with the custom conferences and Team Builder.

Overall, though, the actual dynasty experience was not very engaging. In the preseason you set your schedule, setup the recruiting board, and redshirt players. None of those steps were complex.

During the season you played your games, obviously. Outside of the games you had a very streamlined recruiting process that often had you make simple point tweaks week to week and nothing more.

That's it. That's all there was to the mode during the actual season. You didn't practice or develop players. Recruiting was not engaging at all.

You literally played your games and tweaked point allocations over the span of 5 minutes and were on to the next game.

There wasn't much to make the world feel alive either. Sure, we had the headlines each week like "Trojans fall at home to Stanford" and that was accompanied by a box score, but the world hardly felt alive because of that.

The coaching carousel and the custom conferences is what made the mode feel deeper than it was, but even those systems were very simple. You couldn't add new conferences nor delete any entirely.

The coach carousel was a cool idea, but was essentially and RNG machine that wasn't entirely polished and had issues.

With the new game I expect the in-season activities will be at least as deep considering NCAA 14 had the bare minimum. I'm desperately hoping recruiting is much more engaging, however. I also expect weekly practice and game planning may make it's way over from Madden which will be a nice touch.

My worry is will we have the customization 14 had, and hopefully more. And will we have a more polished variant of the coaching carousel with more depth and logic behind it.

If the answers to those are yes, then I think that's fine for year 1. If not, I will probably be somewhat disappointed, honestly.

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[nflman2033]

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Yes, manage expectations. 1st year back is already assured that something will be missing that we would have expected based on last version. At this point I am betting it will be customization. But as others have said give me madden engine tweaked for the college game and any version of recruiting that has ever been in a NCAA game, and I'll be happy for the season.

[Pokes404]

Re: Managing Expectations

Hi guys,



Long time chiser, NCAA lover, Revamped adorer.



There's so many things we can be excited for in next years NCAA release.


Is it wrong to think that the devs will just screw this up like Madden and it'll be focused on Ultimate Team. Bare dynasty mode with no depth. An engine that doesn't make it feel like football. Or that there will be the missing elements of creating an in depth experience(IE. Franchise in madden)



Should we just manage expectations instead of hoping it'll be what we want it to be?

There's nothing wrong with hoping for the best. That's what I'm doing. However, I'm also bracing myself. I can pretty much guarantee that it will play like Madden, with maybe a few tweaks to make it feel a little more like the college game. For me, that means the on-field gameplay will be pretty close to unplayable. I can't stand Madden's gameplay. I pray that I'm wrong, but I've already made peace with the fact that the gameplay will most likely be unsatisfying for me.



But I am hoping that there's less emphasis on an Ultimate Team style mode and much more attention given to fleshing out a really fun Dynasty mode. If they can do that, and I can have fun playing the Head Coach/Athletic Director role with my favorite school, then I'll be pretty happy.

[NYJets]

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Gameplay I'm not too worried about. I didn't enjoy any of the Maddens in the xbox 360 era but still enjoyed NCAA. I eventually want more sim realistic gameplay but I'm pretty confident it will be fun to play.

I want to manage my expectations for everything else though. Just with Madden's history of features disappearing from one generation to another and the more extensive time off this time around, I think a lot of areas might take a step back from the last game

[Playmakers]

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I got a feeling we won't get Custom Stadium sounds which was great in older NCAA game.

There's a strong chance EA handicaps roster editing ability taking away the share option like Live and NHL Hockey series did.

Also this might not matter to most but I'd be shocked if they had ref's on the field. This has been removed from Madden and I expect this will also carry over to NCAA football.

I hate to seem negative but EA's track record since the last time we saw NCAA football hasn't been good with Madden.

I've played the games because there's no options but usually after a month or two the madden games always got stale. If they do the bare minimum with the new College game it could very well get stale to so hopefully I'm wrong and they put much more time, passion and energy into the college game.

[jfsolo]

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I don't have to manage expectations. Since I like Madden's gameplay, I'll enjoy it in CF, it will have a Dynasty mode with recruiting so I'll be good there as well. It will be a game that I have a ton of fun playing.

I'm a much more chill person than the one who sent a 4 page(both sides) handwritten letter to Tiburon 20 years ago.

[BROman]

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I haven’t been to a strip club in over 10 years, so I’ll probably have a great time just walking through the door if I ever go to one again. I imagine that it’ll be a similar phenomenon with this new CFB game.

[Caulfield]

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I haven’t been to a strip club in over 10 years, so I’ll probably have a great time just walking through the door if I ever go to one again. I imagine that it’ll be a similar phenomenon with this new CFB game.

yep. I've already personally mind-set myself for a day 1 buy-in, and even if EACF24 doesn't wind up holding my attention span long enough for a lap dance, at least having something in the way of a college football video game has to be a step in the right direction after not having one for a solid decade.

right now the only thing that would disappoint me with 24 is if it fails to be released. I still am highly curious what organisation EA is going to barter with that holds NIL rights for the well over 11,000 players that make up the FBS players. as it stands today (and the foreseeable future) that organisation does not exist. I guess EA could give each university the same amount of money and the university be responsible for dividing the money up equally among their 85 players

the problem with that though is as litigious as our society is, there will at some point be the next Ed O'Bannon that wants more than what they are given. so without 1 organisation (union) that represents all 11,000 plus players, it's an uphill battle EA still has to resolve. the struggle is real, as it were

[canes21]

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yep. I've already personally mind-set myself for a day 1 buy-in, and even if EACF24 doesn't wind up holding my attention span long enough for a lap dance, at least having something in the way of a college football video game has to be a step in the right direction after not having one for a solid decade.

right now the only thing that would disappoint me with 24 is if it fails to be released. I still am highly curious what organisation EA is going to barter with that holds NIL rights for the well over 11,000 players that make up the FBS players. as it stands today (and the foreseeable future) that organisation does not exist. I guess EA could give each university the same amount of money and the university be responsible for dividing the money up equally among their 85 players

the problem with that though is as litigious as our society is, there will at some point be the next Ed O'Bannon that wants more than what they are given. so without 1 organisation (union) that represents all 11,000 plus players, it's an uphill battle EA still has to resolve. the struggle is real, as it were

There aren't many rules surrounding NIL right now, but the schools being limited from working with the students on deals is one of them. EA cannot pay the schools and have them figure out how to divide it up among their players.

They can work with a third party that represents whichever players sign on with them and have that party negotiate the compensation package(s). They also, if I've read it correctly, can just send over the paperwork to each football program and have a standard contract that says "you consent to yada yada with regards to name & likeness and you agree to X compensation package and so on:", get those signed and taken care of, then go on from there.

There are more potential issues with the latter situation. The first would be better if one or two organizations can represent nearly all players and get a base compensation package, but if that doesn't happen, EA can technically do the latter proposal and that would be working with each athlete individually even if they all sign the same basic contact.

[WeFireThoseCannons]

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I'm a much more chill person than the one who sent a 4 page(both sides) handwritten letter to Tiburon 20 years ago.

haha you are not alone haha wrote a letter to them around the same time not 4 pages though. I mainly wrote about what gear(Simeon Rice half sleeves that go to the forearm) I would have liked in the game and a few things for Madden. They actually sent a response letter acknowledging they received and read it.

[goillini03]

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Basically I am managing my expectations the exact same as any other EA title. Hope for the best but expect the worst. Just having a CFB game back will be nice, but I am expecting a reskin of Madden which will not be a good thing IMO.