Kanobi's All-Pro M24 "Hidden Balance" Sliders (Series X|S)

[Kanobi]

These sliders are based on my Hidden Balance Theory (corny, I know) which was formed 20 years ago with the belief that Madden's sliders perform a sort of tug-and-pull under the hood. For example, increasing QB accuracy will secretly boost pass coverage and potentially dampen WR catching as the game attempts to maintain a "Hidden Balance".

I applied this theory to M23's sliders to help mitigate the widely known interception problem until it was officially addressed by Tiburon via a title update/patch. So far, I've been pleased with the results.

Here are the sliders:


VERSION 1.0

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All Pro: CPU/USER
QB Accuracy = 20
Fumbles = 80
Reaction Time = 80
Interceptions = 80
Pass Coverage = 80
All others at default (50)

Situational Adjutsments (based on feedback)
-- IF Hum run game too easy:
Hum Run Blocking = 20
CPU tackling = 80

-- IF CPU run game too weak:
CPU Run Blocking = 80
HUM Tackling = 20

10-minute QTRS
Penalties: Roughing the Passer at 40, all others at 99 or "On"
Injury/Fatigue/Speed Threshold: 10/75/95

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VERSION 2.0

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All Pro: CPU&USER
QB Accuracy = 35
Pass Blocking = 35
WR Catching = 50

Run Blocking = 35
Fumbles = 50

Reaction Time = 95
Interceptions = 95
Pass Coverage = 95
Tackling = 95

All others at default (50)

10-minute QTRS
Penalties: Roughing the Passer at 45, all others at 99 or "On"
Injury/Fatigue/Speed Threshold: 10/75/95

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VERSION 2.2

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All Pro: CPU&USER
QB Accuracy = 35
Pass Blocking = 35
WR Catching = 50

Run Blocking = 35
Fumbles = 95

Reaction Time = 95
Interceptions = 95
Pass Coverage = 95
Tackling = 50

All others at default (50)

12-minute QTRS
Penalties: Roughing the Passer at 45, all others at 99 or "On"
Injury/Fatigue/Speed Threshold: 10/75/95

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VERSION 2.4

All Pro: CPU&USER
QB Accuracy = 35
Pass Blocking = 35
WR Catching = 50

Run Blocking = 35
Fumbles = 95

Reaction Time = 95
Interceptions = 80
Pass Coverage = 95
Tackling = 50

All others at default (50)

12-minute QTRS
Penalties: Roughing the Passer at 45, all others at 99 or "On"
Injury/Fatigue/Speed Threshold: 10/75/95


What I Believe You'll See
- Fewer interceptions from CPU QBs
- CPU QB is unafraid to take shots deep
- Fewer ints by the user outside of completely ill-advised throws
- Very Busy, intense pass rush, DL using a variety of moves to shed blocks
- WR is being more aggressive, competing for 50/50 balls
- Nice, realistic flow to CPU vs CPU contests, lead changes, and dramatic finishes

Tips
- Make smart throws and reads. Play within the abilities of your QB
- Get the ball out
- If you have an elite WR1, trust him to make plays against single-man coverage
- If using an average/below average passer, find a rhythm with high-percentage throws
- Invest in the OT position in your CFM as elite edge rushers can/will be a pain
- Commit to the run game even if being stopped early, chunk gains will come.
- Pay attention to matchups. Don't test Sauce Gardner with a sub-70 OVR wideout



Final Note
I know these settings defy logic at first glance but try them out first. Feel free to make tweaks to adjust to your style of play but I believe you'll enjoy this set as a base, especially if you like to spectate or play Coach Mode. I welcome all feedback and constructive criticism.

Thanks, guys!

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Here's some footage I threw together from my testing. Trying to get used to this content creation stuff so forgive the rough edges. Shown in the footage are some examples of contested catches, WR aggression, tight window completions, pass pressure, and overall game speed with these sliders. I will be adding this to the OP as well:

Madden 23 Slider Demo Videos

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Version 1.0 footage

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LET'S GOOOOO!

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[SneakyPasta92]

re: Kanobi's All-Pro M24 "Hidden Balance" Sliders (Series X|S)

You mentioned raising QB Acc but lowered it to 20? Was that raised from like 10 ish or something?
And as an added note, I fully believe some of the sliders just aren’t working or they aren’t working as intended. I played well over 30 games with a slider set that had pass reaction, ints, and pass covg, all at zero and it was the best pass coverage I’ve had to face. Man coverage was actually viable. I played a handful of games with INTs on 100 and it seemed like the cpu wasn’t throwing any. Maybe 1 every other game instead of like it is right now where I’m leading the league in INTs on defense through six games at zero on the INTs slider. (Those tests at 100 were Play Now though :/ ) So there’s something definitely to theory that they change the game some way to account for the other combination of sliders as well. The fact that we have to do this much work to make the game on “simulation” have better stats is the part that sucks though

[Kanobi]

re: Kanobi's All-Pro M24 "Hidden Balance" Sliders (Series X|S)

You mentioned raising QB Acc but lowered it to 20? Was that raised from like 10 ish or something?

When I mentioned raising QB Acc, it was just to give an example of my theory and how I believe the sliders actually work. It had nothing to do with the actual set that followed. I apologize for the confusion.

I played well over 30 games with a slider set that had pass reaction, ints, and pass covg, all at zero and it was the best pass coverage I’ve had to face. Man coverage was actually viable. I played a handful of games with INTs on 100 and it seemed like the cpu wasn’t throwing any.

Bingo! ��

[Kanobi]

re: Kanobi's All-Pro M24 "Hidden Balance" Sliders (Series X|S)

Anybody give these a go?

[rylodutch]

re: Kanobi's All-Pro M24 "Hidden Balance" Sliders (Series X|S)

tryn them 2day....#m23 #allpro

[kgoodman180]

re: Kanobi's All-Pro M24 "Hidden Balance" Sliders (Series X|S)

I really like the smooth flow/gameplay. Great find.

[Kanobi]

re: Kanobi's All-Pro M24 "Hidden Balance" Sliders (Series X|S)

tryn them 2day....#m23 #allpro

Cool! Looking forward to your feedback!...

[Kanobi]

re: Kanobi's All-Pro M24 "Hidden Balance" Sliders (Series X|S)

Just finished a CPU vs CPU game featuring Rams @ Bills using some adjustments I made that I have highlighted in red in the OP...

Bills 26
Rams 14

Passing:
Allen - 98.8 rat, 25/33, 75%, 286 yds, 1 td, 1 int, 8.6 avg, long pass 39 yds

Stafford - 71.2 rat, 20/35, 57%, 221 yds, 2 td, 2 int, 6.3 avg, long pass 41

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Rushing:
Akers - 17 car, 57 yds, 3.3 avg, long run 13 yds
Singletary - 12 car, 48 yds, 4.0 avg, long run 19 yds
Allen - 8 car, 45 yds, 5.6 avg, 1 td, long run 17 yds
Moss - 1 car, 4 yds, 4.0 avg

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Receiving:
Crowder - 7 recs, 98 yds, 14.0 avg
Kupp - 7 recs, 70 yds, 10.0 avg , 1 td
G. Davis - 6 recs, 86 yds, 14.q avg, 1 td
Robinson II - 5 recs 76 yds, 15.2 avg
V. Jefferson - 4 recs, 39 yds, 9.7 avg, 1 td

Defense:
--Tackles
---- Wagner - 13 tkls, 6 solo
---- Rapp - 10 tkls, 4 solo
---- Edmunds 9 tkls, 4 solo
-- Tackles for Loss
---- Donald - 3 tfl
---- Miller - 2 tfl
-- Sacks
---- Donald - 2 sacks
---- Garrett - 1 sack
---- Miller - 1 sack
-- Interceptions
---- Taron Johnson - 1 int, 1td
---- Edmunds - 1 int
---- D. Long Jr - 1 int
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Scoring Summary
1st Qtr
- LAR - Kupp 19 yd pass @ 4.18
2nd Qtr
- BUF - Bass 31 yd FG @ 9:56
- BUF - Bass 48 yd FG @ 4:00
3rd Qtr
- BUF - Allen 1 yd run (failed 2pt conv) @ 2:06
4th Qtr
- BUF - G. Davis 9yd pass @ 3:51
- BUF - T. Johnson int return @ 2:34
- LAR - V. Jefferson 5 yd pass @ 0:27
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This was a really fun game to watch with a score eerily close to tonight's RL game.
- Great flow and action! Speed of the game felt really good.
- Ints occurred well within the realm of belief.
-.Momentum-killing penalties called.
- Receivers attacking the ball in traffic
- Josh Allen took a wicked shot on a goalline TD dive, was slow to get up and looked around like "Where the **** am I?"
- Von Miller look re-energized. I wish this game tracked pressures and QB hits because he had plenty!

Overall, happy with the results but wanna run more games with these updated settings.

[BiggestKJ]

re: Kanobi's All-Pro M24 "Hidden Balance" Sliders (Series X|S)

What are your thoughts on the speed threshold? I find that it makes the opposing defense pass rush a little too overpowered.

Example, I can't run slip screens because the DT always blows by running full speed and hits me right when I take a couple steps. A

If i lower it to 75, how bad will that affect the balance?

[Kanobi]

re: Kanobi's All-Pro M24 "Hidden Balance" Sliders (Series X|S)

What are your thoughts on the speed threshold? I find that it makes the opposing defense pass rush a little too overpowered.

Example, I can't run slip screens because the DT always blows by running full speed and hits me right when I take a couple steps. A

If i lower it to 75, how bad will that affect the balance?

I can't speak from experience on 75. I use 95 because it's always been a practice of mine to work backwards from extremes when tuning sliders.

Currently, I'm watching CPU vs CPU to see the settings at work with no human input. Even with 95, I'm seeing an aggressive pass rush but not an excessive amount of sacks or tackles for loss.

However, I'm also noticing QBs getting the ball out just before they're hit or as they're being hit. So that no doubt is keeping sack numbers in check.

That being said, I'd be super interested in your results using these settings and if you notice a difference in your ability to execute those screens against the 95 threshold.

[rylodutch]

re: Kanobi's All-Pro M24 "Hidden Balance" Sliders (Series X|S)

do these wrk 4 hum vs cpu

[Kanobi]

re: Kanobi's All-Pro M24 "Hidden Balance" Sliders (Series X|S)

do these wrk 4 hum vs cpu

I've yet to test the updated settings on hum vs cpu but feel free to give em a go and report back. I'm actually dying for some data on these outside of my own lol!

[sleary8]

re: Kanobi's All-Pro M24 "Hidden Balance" Sliders (Series X|S)

Ill give these a try tonight most likely. I been looking for a good slider set for cpu vs cpu. I have my franchise all set up and still gotta watch game 1. Once the latest patch dropped, it has halted my progress on my franchise because it seems like everyone that has sliders are in the same boat. They are all trying to figure out how to fix this game n the obvious interception issues going on since the latest patch. When i try these out ill make sure to give you my feedback and a lil game info on my results.

[gatorsfan22]

re: Kanobi's All-Pro M24 "Hidden Balance" Sliders (Series X|S)

Can these sliders work m23 for ps4 just curious

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[Kanobi]

re: Kanobi's All-Pro M24 "Hidden Balance" Sliders (Series X|S)

Can these sliders work m23 for ps4 just curious

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I don't see why they shouldn't. Give em a go.