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  • dwayne12345
    MVP
    • Dec 2010
    • 1407

    #1

    The Russell Westbrook disrespect has to stop

    I know Russ had a bad season by his standards, but 2k ratings making him out like the worst player in the NBA.


    Shot IQ = 25 ?!? Stop it.
    Passing ratings averaging at about a 75?


    Russ had a bad season by HIS standards and severely underperforms his contract but he is still better than the majority of role players in the NBA. Dude was putting up 18, 7, 7 with a 44.4% FG% which is actually better than his average percentage over his career. Y'all acting like he's Dennis Schroeder.
  • xCoachDx
    MVP
    • Aug 2015
    • 1301

    #2
    The Russell Westbrook disrespect has to stop

    A below average 3 point shooter that shoots pull up threes or jumps before he has his mind made up on what he’s doing?

    25 sounds right for sure.

    He’s been doing stuff like last year for years. He just didn’t have triple doubles to overshadow it.

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    • GisherJohn24
      MVP
      • Aug 2008
      • 4608

      #3
      Re: The Russell Westbrook disrespect has to stop

      Originally posted by dwayne12345
      I know Russ had a bad season by his standards, but 2k ratings making him out like the worst player in the NBA.


      Shot IQ = 25 ?!? Stop it.
      Passing ratings averaging at about a 75?


      Russ had a bad season by HIS standards and severely underperforms his contract but he is still better than the majority of role players in the NBA. Dude was putting up 18, 7, 7 with a 44.4% FG% which is actually better than his average percentage over his career. Y'all acting like he's Dennis Schroeder.

      His IQ is definitely not a 25. That’s disrespectful. There should be a current mental slider that affects consistency. I actually think his consistency is what should be super low now. Maybe 45. And IQ should still be about 70 or 75. He’s just in a rough patch. Overall should be about a 77 imo

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      • TarHeelPhenom
        All Star
        • Jul 2002
        • 7123

        #4
        Re: The Russell Westbrook disrespect has to stop

        Originally posted by GisherJohn24
        His IQ is definitely not a 25. That’s disrespectful. There should be a current mental slider that affects consistency. I actually think his consistency is what should be super low now. Maybe 45. And IQ should still be about 70 or 75. He’s just in a rough patch. Overall should be about a 77 imo
        I agree. It should be 35 max.
        "Dunks are tough, but when a 35 footer come rainin out the sky...it'll wire you up"

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        • jd@os
          Roster Editor
          • Jul 2007
          • 3718

          #5
          Re: The Russell Westbrook disrespect has to stop

          He didn’t have a bad season by just “his” standards: he had a bad season by his standards, his coaches’ standards, the media’s standards, and apparently 2K raters’ standards.

          2K isn’t acting like he’s the worst player in the NBA or else he’d have the worst rating in the NBA video game.

          Just like he sat the bench in crunch time of 4th quarters and played his way back, I think he can play his way back to a better rating. Here’s to him doing that, because he’s one player that never takes a game off and doesn’t know how to give anything less than 100%. I respect the heck out of the guy.


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          • GisherJohn24
            MVP
            • Aug 2008
            • 4608

            #6
            The Russell Westbrook disrespect has to stop

            Originally posted by TarHeelPhenom
            I agree. It should be 35 max.

            I don’t think his IQ has much to do with his struggles. I think it’s mental and his confidence is gone. Again. Just my opinion. I still say consistency should be his lowest attribute. Offensive awareness obviously took a big hit last couple years too. Although I see where these arguments come from though. His shot selection certainly is quite questionable lately.

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            • EWRMETS
              All Star
              • Jul 2002
              • 7491

              #7
              Re: The Russell Westbrook disrespect has to stop

              If the lakers trade him, his next stop will be China. 78 is actually way too high.

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              • dwayne12345
                MVP
                • Dec 2010
                • 1407

                #8
                Re: The Russell Westbrook disrespect has to stop

                Originally posted by jd@os
                He didn’t have a bad season by just “his” standards: he had a bad season by his standards, his coaches’ standards, the media’s standards, and apparently 2K raters’ standards.

                2K isn’t acting like he’s the worst player in the NBA or else he’d have the worst rating in the NBA video game.

                Just like he sat the bench in crunch time of 4th quarters and played his way back, I think he can play his way back to a better rating. Here’s to him doing that, because he’s one player that never takes a game off and doesn’t know how to give anything less than 100%. I respect the heck out of the guy.


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                Nobody on his team, coaching staff, or in the media said that Russell Westbrook has the all time worst offensive IQ. The issue is his production as it relates to his contract and role on the team.


                If Russ was getting 5-10 mil per year no one would be talking about how terrible he is.


                People are just confusing "bad contract" with "bad player."

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                • The15thunter
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 1639

                  #9
                  Re: The Russell Westbrook disrespect has to stop

                  Originally posted by GisherJohn24
                  I don’t think his IQ has much to do with his struggles. I think it’s mental and his confidence is gone. Again. Just my opinion. I still say consistency should be his lowest attribute. Offensive awareness obviously took a big hit last couple years too. Although I see where these arguments come from though. His shot selection certainly is quite questionable lately.
                  isn't the closest approximation of his mental and decision making condensed into the shot iq rating?
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                  • dwayne12345
                    MVP
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 1407

                    #10
                    Re: The Russell Westbrook disrespect has to stop

                    Originally posted by The15thunter
                    isn't the closest approximation of his mental and decision making condensed into the shot iq rating?

                    You can give him a normal bad Shot IQ (like a 50-60) and approximate his mental issues with his tendencies and being a bad fit for the active coaching system.

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                    • STLRams
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 2847

                      #11
                      Re: The Russell Westbrook disrespect has to stop

                      If I remember correctly a few years ago it was stated that Shot IQ was tied to catch and shoot vs catch and drive reaction. Almost like a tendency but not exactly, but it will make the player drive more instead of catching and shooting the ball at will. So it would make sense why Russ or someone like young MJ has a low shot IQ attribute, it doesn't mean they are a low IQ player, it means how they would want catch and shoot fast vs attack the rim.

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                      • jd@os
                        Roster Editor
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 3718

                        #12
                        Re: The Russell Westbrook disrespect has to stop

                        Originally posted by dwayne12345
                        Nobody on his team, coaching staff, or in the media said that Russell Westbrook has the all time worst offensive IQ. The issue is his production as it relates to his contract and role on the team.


                        If Russ was getting 5-10 mil per year no one would be talking about how terrible he is.


                        People are just confusing "bad contract" with "bad player."
                        Right.......but nobody on 2K's team is "making him out like the worst player in the NBA" either as stated in your first post.

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                        • EWRMETS
                          All Star
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 7491

                          #13
                          Re: The Russell Westbrook disrespect has to stop

                          Originally posted by dwayne12345
                          Nobody on his team, coaching staff, or in the media said that Russell Westbrook has the all time worst offensive IQ. The issue is his production as it relates to his contract and role on the team.


                          If Russ was getting 5-10 mil per year no one would be talking about how terrible he is.


                          People are just confusing "bad contract" with "bad player."
                          Right of course they aren’t trashing him publicly because they are dying to get rid of him. He won’t get a minimum contract after this one.

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                          • Quentin32
                            Pro
                            • Sep 2015
                            • 546

                            #14
                            Re: The Russell Westbrook disrespect has to stop

                            Fun fact

                            Russ had a better fg% than Dame & Curry

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                            • Inman1310
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2022
                              • 5

                              #15
                              Re: The Russell Westbrook disrespect has to stop

                              Originally posted by Quentin32
                              Fun fact

                              Russ had a better fg% than Dame & Curry

                              Fun Fact: Russels TS% was 6 points below league average, while Stephs was 4 points above. 80% of nba players score more efficiently than Westbrook. He took almost 16 shots a game, a lot of them stealing better opportunities for his more efficient teammates, costing his team dearly in the process. He just has a catastrophic shot iq...


                              Overall though he was better than about 55% of nba players last season, so he was quite average.

                              The times where he was a top 20 (or even top 5) RS player are long gone: 4 (or 5) seasons ago.

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