So Was Ronnie2k Right?

[TarHeelPhenom]

Is this the best 2k ever from top to bottom? I'm leaning towards yes; simply because no other sports game ever made has been this deep with stuff to be able to do. The gameplay is also good. I'm not detecting any lies from Ronnie right now lol.

[EccentricMeat]

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Yes. They finally topped 2K11. My only gameplay complaint is the shot system, where I wish there was an option to make shots play out like older 2K’s in that you had to learn the timing but there was no “Green” mechanic.

[CujoMatty]

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Greatest basketball game ever. Hands down.

Its in the argument for best sports game ever as well in my opinion. I think in 10 years it will be mentioned
with the other all time classics MVP05, NFL 2k5 and College Hoops 2k8.

[HeatLifer]

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Yes. They finally topped 2K11. My only gameplay complaint is the shot system, where I wish there was an option to make shots play out like older 2K’s in that you had to learn the timing but there was no “Green” mechanic.

Absolutely, nostalgia is personal but side to side - 2K23 is the best overall 2K yet.

[MikeBadge]

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Yes. They finally topped 2K11. My only gameplay complaint is the shot system, where I wish there was an option to make shots play out like older 2K’s in that you had to learn the timing but there was no “Green” mechanic.

Actually had a question I wanted to bring to the boards about this.

Was there ever "no green mechanic" in 2K. I have memories of practice mode on the PS2 where they were giving me yellow "slightly late"/"slightly early" and green "excellent" shot feedback.

Is it more about getting the green animation/shot feedback in game? Or excellent releases being automakes?

Just curious b/c I hear "get greens out the game" a lot but I've been playing this game for 20 years an feel like greens have been in the game for like 15 years at least.

To the original post question, yes. Hard to compare across console generations but this is up there with 11 and 16 as all timers to me. Though they still haven't reached the summit of the CH2K8 mountain.

[SwaggerCoach]

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Still too early to tell.

Core gameplay is largely unchanged with only slight tweaks to enhance?

YES. EMPHATICALLY YES.

Game is patched to death to cater to dribble godz. Nope.

Let's re-assess in 1 month.

[Hounddog146]

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Id disagree, 2k11 is still better in my opinion. Sure 2k23 has better graphics, character models and animations but 2k11 has better gameplay and longevity. Whenever i talk about 2k11, i have to say that is the only game where i played multiple seasons and played every game in mycareer. After the jordan challenges, i can hardly play 2k23 because of my internet situation. Dont know why myplayer has to be connected to the online with the horrible story.


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[cthurt]

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Definitely has potential to be but depending on how the patches that are released effect the game will decide my answer. As of now there are alot of bugs they are fixable but question is if the patches will fix old issues and cause new problems. For now im just playing the Jordan challenge mode where it is somewhat safe.

[ILLSmak]

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Regarding cg yea 2k theory is changing. Very engaging. Def the best gameplay I’ve seen. It’s more than sliders this time tho they were adjusted as well. Body contact, loose balls, rebounding. I can only imagine w a dunk stick (not sure if cg has.)

Plus they boosted stats in sim so stars go off. I can’t say ever but def one of those step moments. Like I said I feel like I was on the dev team. Fewer badges, their cluster of “effects” makes sense. Fearless is now dunking. Mash, pro touch, fearless and bully is just like “ I beg u to force it. Hof.

Oh the cpu doesnt double team right. O well? When I first played to test it didn’t seem as good, but wow.

Would have loved to see more depth in mc like team building but yeah. They also made people much more difficult to box out. You can feel them about to step around and u can major push people football style if u are strong. Little things.

-Smak

[ZSmit88]

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I think the older Era rosters play a better game than the modern Era rosters. A lot of "bugs" and "exploits" (which I think are due to the amount of badges)... like Fox can blow by anyone at anytime no matter the difficulty.

Not sure if it's the best yet.

[EccentricMeat]

So Was Ronnie2k Right?

Actually had a question I wanted to bring to the boards about this.

Was there ever "no green mechanic" in 2K. I have memories of practice mode on the PS2 where they were giving me yellow "slightly late"/"slightly early" and green "excellent" shot feedback.

Is it more about getting the green animation/shot feedback in game? Or excellent releases being automakes?

Just curious b/c I hear "get greens out the game" a lot but I've been playing this game for 20 years an feel like greens have been in the game for like 15 years at least.

To the original post question, yes. Hard to compare across console generations but this is up there with 11 and 16 as all timers to me. Though they still haven't reached the summit of the CH2K8 mountain.

I don’t remember when they brought greens to the game, but there was a time when a green release still gave the possibility of missing the shot. And that is what I’d like to see return, at least an option within shot-timing that removes the “green = make” mechanic. They should keep it for online users, but let us offline guys have the option to remove guaranteed makes. Or hell, just give us a slider to fine-tune the boost from greening a shot, with the default value being 100 so the online users always make greens on default (I think this was the original idea behind the Shot Timing Impact slider but that got immediately ruined with the green = make mechanic, so now the slider is basically worthless).


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[tru11]

Re: So Was Ronnie2k Right?

Actually had a question I wanted to bring to the boards about this.



Was there ever "no green mechanic" in 2K. I have memories of practice mode on the PS2 where they were giving me yellow "slightly late"/"slightly early" and green "excellent" shot feedback.



Is it more about getting the green animation/shot feedback in game? Or excellent releases being automakes?



Just curious b/c I hear "get greens out the game" a lot but I've been playing this game for 20 years an feel like greens have been in the game for like 15 years at least.



To the original post question, yes. Hard to compare across console generations but this is up there with 11 and 16 as all timers to me. Though they still haven't reached the summit of the CH2K8 mountain.

Greens and similar things where always around.

What wasent around was green being a guaranteed make.

Green itself was never the problem.
The problem was and will be that greening is a 100% bucket regardless of ratings.

This 2K with a 70 3pnt rating and the right badges a wide open shot is a green unless you mess up your timing.

It remains silly.

It should be near impossible to green a 3 with the low of a rating.

Let alone repeat it every single time.


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[NYJin2011tm]

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Lol I was waiting for someone to say this. For me I’m having the best initial out of the box gameplay in quite some time.

[CujoMatty]

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I don’t remember when they brought greens to the game, but there was a time when a green release still gave the possibility of missing the shot. And that is what I’d like to see return, at least an option within shot-timing that removes the “green = make” mechanic. They should keep it for online users, but let us offline guys have the option to remove guaranteed makes. Or hell, just give us a slider to fine-tune the boost from greening a shot, with the default value being 100 so the online users always make greens on default (I think this was the original idea behind the Shot Timing Impact slider but that got immediately ruined with the green = make mechanic, so now the slider is basically worthless).


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It was part of the skill gap initiative brought on by esports.

[EccentricMeat]

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It was part of the skill gap initiative brought on by esports.

Which I totally get and support whole-heartedly. They just need to give offline users either a slider to adjust the boost from Greens, or another Shot Timing option that removes greens without removing timing.