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  • Head Coach
    Banned
    • May 2005
    • 601

    #1

    The latest update has ruined this game

    This game is unplayable in the offline mode.

    THE CPU GOALIE CANNOT BE BEAT.

    3 CONSECUTIVE GAMES OF BEING SHUT OUT.
    OVER 90 SHOTS ZERO GOALS !!

    Meanwhile your goalie doesn't block anything so you get torched every game.

    I could simply try to lower the CPU GOALIE sliders but changing all these sliders gets very tiresome.
    Once you get the game playing right they change it in the update so you are back to square one.

    I like playing seasons so it's pointless to keep playing with it being messed up like this.

    Vasilevsky one of the best goalies on the planet ROUTINELY GETS TORCHED on my season but the CPU goalie is UNBEATABLE.

    Very very disappointing. When I finally loaded up the last update things went swiftly downhill.

    I have always looked on the positive side with this game but I can't deny what people have been saying all along.
  • Arkady
    Rookie
    • Jul 2014
    • 10

    #2
    Re: The latest update has ruined this game

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    • jake19ny
      MVP
      • Mar 2011
      • 1938

      #3
      Re: The latest update has ruined this game

      Well before this update I've been reading a lot about how people think the goalies are too good. I think it's the opposite and the only thing ruining this game....the goalie AI and animations are awful and way to many games are 3-3, 5-3, etc...before the end of the first. They stop nothing no matter the sliders or difficulty level.
      Last edited by jake19ny; 11-28-2022, 10:01 AM.

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      • wheels2121
        Pro
        • Nov 2002
        • 672

        #4
        Re: The latest update has ruined this game

        I just lost a game 8-7. I can’t stop people from scoring despite a good offense. I’m

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        • BigBadAss33
          Rookie
          • Jul 2013
          • 496

          #5
          Re: The latest update has ruined this game

          Originally posted by jake19ny
          Well before this update I've been reading a lot about how people think the goalies are too good. I think it's the opposite and the only thing ruining this game....the goalie AI and animations are awful and way to many games are 3-3, 5-3, etc...before the end of the first. They stop nothing no matter the sliders or difficulty level.
          I have played about 1000 games of NHL23 and have NEVER seen scores like that after 1.. IDK how you play(Control ALL players or PL, trust me it makes a difference) or what SLIDERS are being(THESE are especially important) this game is off the charts borderline GREAT..
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          • BigBadAss33
            Rookie
            • Jul 2013
            • 496

            #6
            Re: The latest update has ruined this game

            Originally posted by wheels2121
            I just lost a game 8-7. I can’t stop people from scoring despite a good offense. I’m
            What level and Sliders are are you using?
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            • kinsmen7
              MVP
              • Mar 2016
              • 1661

              #7
              Re: The latest update has ruined this game

              Originally posted by wheels2121
              I just lost a game 8-7. I can’t stop people from scoring despite a good offense. I’m
              Question-Are you playing offline or online?

              If offline, and you're willing to play with the sliders a bit, I've found that the biggest difference has been lowering shot accuracy to around 26. I don't personally find the goalie sliders don't do much unforunately, but with the accuracy down, I'm seeing a solid variety of goals, and the scores are lower. I use AlTito's slider set, but have lowered the shot accuracy a bit more than he had when he set up his set.

              Another suggestion that I have, is that when defending in your own zone, try not to change players super regularly. I know that goes against the full team control aspect, but there's a very small lag when you change players, and it *sometimes* results in your players ending up out of position, which results in the offence being able to get to the high danger scoring areas much easier. That's what the AI offence is programed to do-get the puck to the slot...if you can keep them outside by not ending up out of position, they'll take far more lower quality shots.

              My 3rd suggestion is to lower the CPU/User hit power to 15 and 10 respectively. Going for big hits is fun, but the CPU passing accuracy is always fairly high, so if you just bang out there, it's less likely that you're going to be able to take possession of the puck. Stick checks (ie. poke check/stick lift) are far more effective when it comes to regaining possession of the puck than crashing around out there (similar to real life).

              The last thing I'll say is make sure you're using the OOTB tuner (1.00). The most recent one seems to be geared for online play (high scoring), which is obviously not ideal if you're going for any sense of realism.

              Overall I still see *some* higher scoring games, but I find that the majority of goals that I end up allowing are simply from my own mistakes/being out of position. If I focus on defence-first, I have far more success than if I'm playing a run and gun offence style.

              I hope this helps!
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              • Therebelyell626
                MVP
                • Mar 2018
                • 2892

                #8
                Re: The latest update has ruined this game

                Originally posted by BigBadAss33
                I have played about 1000 games of NHL23 and have NEVER seen scores like that after 1.. IDK how you play(Control ALL players or PL, trust me it makes a difference) or what SLIDERS are being(THESE are especially important) this game is off the charts borderline GREAT..
                I’m in the same camp. I have never seen scores like this in the game pre or post patch. In my opinion the goalies are too good. To the point where the one timer has been completely eliminated from the game.

                I get that they made it harder this year, the defense is really good at stopping cross ice passes. The problem is when the defense has a break down and leaves the cross ice pass open, there is less than a 25% chance you will score the one timer. The goalies are just way too good at warping to far side and stopping these shots.

                One timers are essential to hockey and a play you see in almost every NhL game. I get that they needed to make the defense better at intercepting passes but they have also went a bit over board with the goalies. The goalies also cheat way to hard to the short side. To the point where the low far side twister is basically the meta on how to score in this years game.

                To be honest though I’d rather have the goalies like this and more difficult to score on. It at least makes the games interesting

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                • kinsmen7
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2016
                  • 1661

                  #9
                  Re: The latest update has ruined this game

                  Originally posted by Therebelyell626
                  I’m in the same camp. I have never seen scores like this in the game pre or post patch. In my opinion the goalies are too good. To the point where the one timer has been completely eliminated from the game.

                  I get that they made it harder this year, the defense is really good at stopping cross ice passes. The problem is when the defense has a break down and leaves the cross ice pass open, there is less than a 25% chance you will score the one timer. The goalies are just way too good at warping to far side and stopping these shots.

                  One timers are essential to hockey and a play you see in almost every NhL game. I get that they needed to make the defense better at intercepting passes but they have also went a bit over board with the goalies. The goalies also cheat way to hard to the short side. To the point where the low far side twister is basically the meta on how to score in this years game.

                  To be honest though I’d rather have the goalies like this and more difficult to score on. It at least makes the games interesting
                  You playing with player lock on like BBA/PK are? I wonder if that's the difference, because I definitely don't find the goalies to be very good at all. I see lots of tip-ins, rebound goals, and a fair number of top shelf goals when a high-accuracy shooter is shooting.

                  I really wish I was seeing the better goaltending though...
                  2025 Expos Expansion:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1295163793

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                  • Therebelyell626
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2018
                    • 2892

                    #10
                    Re: The latest update has ruined this game

                    Originally posted by kinsmen7
                    You playing with player lock on like BBA/PK are? I wonder if that's the difference, because I definitely don't find the goalies to be very good at all. I see lots of tip-ins, rebound goals, and a fair number of top shelf goals when a high-accuracy shooter is shooting.

                    I really wish I was seeing the better goaltending though...
                    No I don’t play with player lock. I like to control all players on the ice. I have had games where I score 5 goals. And I’ve had games where I’ve been shut out. But the goalies to me aren’t the problem with this game

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                    • Head Coach
                      Banned
                      • May 2005
                      • 601

                      #11
                      Re: The latest update has ruined this game

                      I quit playing NHL 23 and bought FIFA.

                      After a few days of playing FIFA 23 I crumpled the disk up and threw it in the garbage. These idiots have made a soccer game where you can't stop the AI from taking shots. Ridiculous.

                      I still have NHL 23 but have ZERO motivation to come back to it.

                      EA is the worst thing to ever happen to sports gaming.

                      It's too late in the year to go back to MLB the Show. Baseball season is over.

                      I am thinking of trying NBA 2K but I'm not really into the NBA.

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                      • dandeb
                        Rookie
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 75

                        #12
                        Re: The latest update has ruined this game

                        I hear ya. I went back to NHL 22. Much better to play than 23. EA didn't change much in 23. At least you can score in 22! lol.
                        Last edited by dandeb; 12-07-2022, 06:48 AM.

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                        • Head Coach
                          Banned
                          • May 2005
                          • 601

                          #13
                          Re: The latest update has ruined this game

                          I think I might come back to 23.

                          It's the only thing EA made that is even playable

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                          • PernellKarl076
                            MVP
                            • Dec 2019
                            • 1382

                            #14
                            Re: The latest update has ruined this game

                            Kinda lost by this thread TBH 🤔

                            I’m having wonderful games and the goalies are perfectly fine as they are… When the are too weak, people complain, when they are too good, people complain…

                            Now, they are sometimes good and sometimes weak and people still complain, lol 😂
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                            • Head Coach
                              Banned
                              • May 2005
                              • 601

                              #15
                              Re: The latest update has ruined this game

                              Originally posted by PernellKarl076
                              Kinda lost by this thread TBH ��

                              I’m having wonderful games and the goalies are perfectly fine as they are… When the are too weak, people complain, when they are too good, people complain…

                              Now, they are sometimes good and sometimes weak and people still complain, lol ��
                              Kind of lost by your stupid comment.

                              If you didn't have anything of value to add you could simply shut up

                              Your the number one person that post on every thread complaining about stuff.

                              Other people see the point I am making. If you didn't thats your issue.

                              Next time shut up.

                              You can't make a thread on here without some idiot saying some smart aleck nonsense.

                              You can't even have a thread on here without you coming on it.

                              Others on here see the exact point I am making
                              Last edited by Head Coach; 12-07-2022, 07:39 PM.

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