2022-23 English Football Thread

[Brahvocado]

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Oh I like you…..

Don’t get me wrong, 99/100 times if Chelsea aren’t winning league I just want City to win, I actually don’t know any Chelsea fans who would pick anyone else.

THIS particular season however, it would be FAR funnier if Arsenal randomly lost the title to United of all teams.

I would still largely prefer if none of Arsenal/Spurs/United/Liverpool ever won a single trophy ever again.

Just clearing things up.

[Keirik]

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Don’t get me wrong, 99/100 times if Chelsea aren’t winning league I just want City to win, I actually don’t know any Chelsea fans who would pick anyone else.

THIS particular season however, it would be FAR funnier if Arsenal randomly lost the title to United of all teams.

And for the record, concerning the Grealish stuff. I’m sorry, he’s earned his diving reputation. He’s fouled alot. There is no denying that. Most world class players are fouled a lot. That doesn’t mean we can’t point out when a diver, whether it be Bruno, Grealish, or Mané, goes into traffic intentionally looking for contact. I do admit, what Grealish does helps his team immensely. He literally forces yellow cards that can lead to reds like we saw Sunday. I don’t enjoy the constant whining about it though. He knows exactly what he’s doing. It’s something that hinders this sport a lot. At times, a player like him almost seems more interested in the contact rather than avoiding it and carrying on.


I would still largely prefer if none of Arsenal/Spurs/United/Liverpool ever won a single trophy ever again.

Just clearing things up.

Oh I know. United aren’t garnering any real support from a non United supporter. But I at least appreciated the semi good vibes from the West London crowd.

Hey, at the very least, we both share the special one. To this day, I still say if he was backed a bit more, he likely does what Ten Hag is doing now.

And for the record, concerning the Grealish stuff. I’m sorry, he’s earned his diving reputation and it won’t go away anytime soon. He’s fouled alot. There is no denying that. Most world class players are fouled a lot. That doesn’t mean we can’t point out when a diver, whether it be Bruno, Grealish, or Mané, goes into traffic intentionally looking for contact first. I do admit, what Grealish does helps his team immensely. He literally forces yellow cards that can lead to reds like we saw Sunday. I don’t enjoy the constant whining about it though. He knows exactly what he’s doing. It’s something that hinders this sport a lot. At times, a player like him almost seems more interested in the contact rather than avoiding it and carrying on.

[jb12780]

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https://www.premierleague.com/news/3045970

Oh boy!!!


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[Krebstar]

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https://www.premierleague.com/news/3045970

Oh boy!!!


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Fast-forward two years: no punishment, nothing changes.

[KG]

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City in trouble both on and off the pitch [emoji102]


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[Krebstar]

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Fast-forward two years: no punishment, nothing changes.

I will say, the fact that it's a four-year investigation and that the clubs essentially exert a lot of control over the league does make this rather spicy compared to UEFA attempting to have a go at City's fraudulent financial practices.

[Suntan Superman]

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I will say, the fact that it's a four-year investigation and that the clubs essentially exert a lot of control over the league does make this rather spicy compared to UEFA attempting to have a go at City's fraudulent financial practices.

The UEFA charges that fell are still the funniest imo. UEFA had enough to kill off City, then decided to even further, but didn't follow THEIR OWN rules. They literally lost the case because they couldn't be bothered to see if they were compliant in their investigation.

[KG]

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I will say, the fact that it's a four-year investigation and that the clubs essentially exert a lot of control over the league does make this rather spicy compared to UEFA attempting to have a go at City's fraudulent financial practices.

Yeah from what I read on twitter this morning from respected journalists is that it’s been in the works and City can’t appeal to the CAS (the board that got them off last time).

Like you, I’m skeptical that anything will happen to them but we all know they’ve been cooking the books for years. All that revenue from their 37 supporter hmmmmmmmm


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[jb12780]

2022-23 English Football Thread

Would the league go through a 4 year investigation and let them off with a fine?

However, apparently the guy leading this commission is an Arsenal season ticket holder, so people are going to jump all over that.

Will we see City in Birmingham or Stoke on Tuesday and Wednesday nights?

Part of me feels that Sir Alex called a few of his friends in the league office.


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[steelerfan]

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Don’t get me wrong, 99/100 times if Chelsea aren’t winning league I just want City to win, I actually don’t know any Chelsea fans who would pick anyone else.



THIS particular season however, it would be FAR funnier if Arsenal randomly lost the title to United of all teams.



I would still largely prefer if none of Arsenal/Spurs/United/Liverpool ever won a single trophy ever again.



Just clearing things up.

Count me as one then.

Here's who I root for to win the league every year:

1. Chelsea
2. Anyone but United
3. Not United

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[Keirik]

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I feel a little extra pep in my step today

[Krebstar]

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Yeah from what I read on twitter this morning from respected journalists is that it’s been in the works and City can’t appeal to the CAS (the board that got them off last time).

Yeah, the fact that they're dealing specifically with the Premier League, and not the FA, UEFA, etc. is really what makes this different, as the league is its own entity and is comprised of members, but is not necessarily a governing body of others, etc.

Plus, after UEFA swinging and missing, I'm sure that made the league even more diligent regarding its evidence, what it's charging, etc.

I know the consensus right now is that this will be tied up in courts for months, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a rather swift punishment. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised to see none, or for it to take a very long time, but if it's fast, it kind of makes sense. Why? Well, if the league has evidence (which it clearly does) that City broke the league's rules, I think they could be punished rather quickly because this is essentially a smaller scale in which they're operating in.

So, what could work against City is for as big as the league is, this is very much a micro level, compared to dealing with UEFA, the FA, which is a more macro level.

It's like your boss punishing you for breaking the rules versus the government punishing you. With the first example, you just might have to deal with it, but with the second there are official ways you can challenge, appeal, etc.

[Suntan Superman]

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Yeah from what I read on twitter this morning from respected journalists is that it’s been in the works and City can’t appeal to the CAS (the board that got them off last time).

I just want to point out, the CAS did nothing to get City off last time other than read the rules that were set forth by the LITERAL PEOPLE INVESTIGATING CITY, and found out THAT THEY VIOLATED THEIR OWN RULES IN THE INVESTIGATION. CAS didn't let them off, City didn't buy their way out(at least, unless they bought the investigators) It was the gross incompetency of UEFA that doomed our last "this is surely the one that'll get 'em" investigation.

Whatever we do, we cannot let UEFA off the hook for being THAT dumb.

[KG]

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I just want to point out, the CAS did nothing to get City off last time other than read the rules that were set forth by the LITERAL PEOPLE INVESTIGATING CITY, and found out THAT THEY VIOLATED THEIR OWN RULES IN THE INVESTIGATION. CAS didn't let them off, City didn't buy their way out(at least, unless they bought the investigators) It was the gross incompetency of UEFA that doomed our last "this is surely the one that'll get 'em" investigation.

Whatever we do, we cannot let UEFA off the hook for being THAT dumb.

My understanding is that the statute of limitations ran out which is why City got away with it in regards to UEFA but what’s different is that there isn’t an appeals process for the PL where as there is one with UEFA. Makes it even more dumbfounding that the Prem hasn’t hired it’s independent regulator yet although that regulator would also oversee the goings-on with the FA which I’m sure they don’t want.

It brings me back to something Mourinho said at the time



I don’t really think UEFA is dumb, more so in the pocket of state run clubs.


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[Suntan Superman]

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My understanding is that the statute of limitations ran out which is why City got away with it in regards to UEFA but what’s different is that there isn’t an appeals process for the PL where as there is one with UEFA. Makes it even more dumbfounding that the Prem hasn’t hired it’s independent regulator yet although that regulator would also oversee the goings-on with the FA which I’m sure they don’t want.

The statute of limitations was given to the CFCB by UEFA, UEFA created the Statute of Limitations, and then went over it. Hence UEFA did not follow UEFA's own rules.