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  • ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
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    • Dec 2009
    • 4682

    #1

    SAPIEN and bent knees. Is this the year that Madden NPCs evolve upright walking?

    For millions of years, NPCs in Madden have hovered between knuckle walking and the true upright gate of Homo sapiens, as seen here in this extinct thread:



    But according to some early reviews, the new skellington system SAPIEN may have changed all that. According to The Sixth Axis:

    Originally posted by TSA Review
    You wouldn’t think they’d be the most exciting change to Madden 24, or one that’s all that impactful, but when you put last year’s release next to this one, the differences are shockingly clear. So much so, you have to ask yourself how you’ve lived with the slightly inhuman way that player models in the older Madden games had joints that fold unnaturally and characters that couldn’t actually stand truly upright. The technology that EA has branded SAPIEN changes all that, a new skeleton model developed by EA that will also be rolling out to all of their sports titles in the coming year. It brings a new level of accuracy to player’s movements and stature, moving Madden 24 closer than ever to being a visually realistic representation of the sport.
    https://www.thesixthaxis.com/2023/06...ap-in-realism/

    Has the common Madden NPC finally taken that next leap in the road of evolution? Humanity collectively eagerly awaits the beta tomorrow to find out.
    Originally posted by Therebelyell626
    I am going to create a team called "the happy town fundament rapscallions" and hurt your already diminishing image
    https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2049813056

    Last edited by your mom; 06-06-2006 at 6:06 PM.
  • kingsofthevalley
    MVP
    • May 2011
    • 1965

    #2
    Re: SAPIEN and bent knees. Is this the year that Madden NPCs evolve upright walking?

    They always reminded me of Clone Wars battle droids while walking lol!

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    • canes21
      Hall Of Fame
      • Sep 2008
      • 22936

      #3
      Re: SAPIEN and bent knees. Is this the year that Madden NPCs evolve upright walking?

      I really hope so. I know in the grand scheme of things this is not a major issue, but I personally am the type of person that is really big on immersing myself in these games and seeing the bended knee constantly would take me out of the world killing my immersion.
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      • SeaTownGamer
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        • Jul 2015
        • 1551

        #4
        Re: SAPIEN and bent knees. Is this the year that Madden NPCs evolve upright walking?

        Op I'm the guy that made that thread and i seen a clip from on YouTube and it looks like the bent knees are still there.


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        • ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
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          • Dec 2009
          • 4682

          #5
          Re: SAPIEN and bent knees. Is this the year that Madden NPCs evolve upright walking?

          Originally posted by SeaTownGamer
          Op I'm the guy that made that thread and i seen a clip from on YouTube and it looks like the bent knees are still there.


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          My preference would have been merely to bump your legendary thread, but alas the gods are cruel, and it was locked.


          Would be nice to have guys standing around like guys and not high tech robots though.
          Originally posted by Therebelyell626
          I am going to create a team called "the happy town fundament rapscallions" and hurt your already diminishing image
          https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2049813056

          Last edited by your mom; 06-06-2006 at 6:06 PM.

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          • Heisman
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            • Dec 2007
            • 560

            #6
            Re: SAPIEN and bent knees. Is this the year that Madden NPCs evolve upright walking?

            The technology seems cool.. But just like everything with EA sports I wouldn’t expect too much the first year.

            FIFA had hypermotion 2 years ago and they improved it last year. Madden had fieldsense last year and they’re building on it this year.

            I’m most likely skipping this year unless this years Madden gets raving reviews because what’s the point? It’s the first year and next year they’re going to try and sell sapien tech 2.0.
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            • ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
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              • Dec 2009
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              #7
              Re: SAPIEN and bent knees. Is this the year that Madden NPCs evolve upright walking?

              Originally posted by Heisman
              The technology seems cool.. But just like everything with EA sports I wouldn’t expect too much the first year.

              FIFA had hypermotion 2 years ago and they improved it last year. Madden had fieldsense last year and they’re building on it this year.

              I’m most likely skipping this year unless this years Madden gets raving reviews because what’s the point? It’s the first year and next year they’re going to try and sell sapien tech 2.0.
              I get what you're saying, but as someone with a PS5 but also a gaming PC, if there are no issue with the modding community, the PC version is going to end up being an outstanding game by the time it's all said and done. The miracles these guys worked in the previous generation of PC Madden were impressive as hell. But now we get the better graphics and engine of the current generation. Again, assuming there are no major hiccups on the way to modding the game, it's going to be a lot of fun for us.


              I say all that to say that, in light of that, I have no choice but to buy it this year. If nothing else, I ought to be able fix the hideous sleeve stripes on the Cardinals and give the Commanders gold pants and get rid of those stupid diamond holes on their jersey numbers.
              Originally posted by Therebelyell626
              I am going to create a team called "the happy town fundament rapscallions" and hurt your already diminishing image
              https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2049813056

              Last edited by your mom; 06-06-2006 at 6:06 PM.

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              • Heisman
                Pro
                • Dec 2007
                • 560

                #8
                Re: SAPIEN and bent knees. Is this the year that Madden NPCs evolve upright walking?

                Originally posted by ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
                I get what you're saying, but as someone with a PS5 but also a gaming PC, if there are no issue with the modding community, the PC version is going to end up being an outstanding game by the time it's all said and done. The miracles these guys worked in the previous generation of PC Madden were impressive as hell. But now we get the better graphics and engine of the current generation. Again, assuming there are no major hiccups on the way to modding the game, it's going to be a lot of fun for us.


                I say all that to say that, in light of that, I have no choice but to buy it this year. If nothing else, I ought to be able fix the hideous sleeve stripes on the Cardinals and give the Commanders gold pants and get rid of those stupid diamond holes on their jersey numbers.
                I feel you about PC gaming. No doubt Madden should be great on it. Once finances are in order I’ll be on that side as well.

                It’s a little bit ridiculous when some teams like the Raiders and 49ers still played on baseball diamonds for half the season and Madden out the box couldn’t simulate that for years but pc players could.
                Last edited by Heisman; 06-12-2023, 07:56 PM.
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                • ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
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                  #9
                  Re: SAPIEN and bent knees. Is this the year that Madden NPCs evolve upright walking?

                  Originally posted by Heisman
                  I feel you about PC gaming. No doubt Madden should be great on it. Once finances are in order I’ll be on that side as well.

                  It’s a little bit ridiculous when some teams like the Raiders and 49ers still played on baseball diamonds for half the season and Madden out the box couldn’t simulate that for years but pc players could.
                  Speaking of the Raiders and 49ers, how about the fact that they start our games at 4 PM Pacific time. Come on...


                  For PC what I would do is just shift all the game's times. I'm not playing the other games, so all I care about is seeing scores on the ticker when I'm supposed to. So I moved 49ers games to 1 PM, and moved the other games accordingly (Eastern games to 10 AM for example). I also moved Western night games a bit earlier to 6:30 PM, because usually the sun is just setting when our night games start. And then later in the year, when winter comes and the sun sets earlier, I just started those games 2 PM or 2:30 and moved the night games to about 8 PM.


                  Anyway, yeah, PC will allow lots of stupid things to be fixed. Hopefully (I don't see why modders won't be able to do these things since I'm pretty sure FIFA is similar and seems to be quite modable.




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                  ... Of course this won't matter if they removed quarter by quarter progressive lighting like people in the Beta are saying they did, smh.
                  Originally posted by Therebelyell626
                  I am going to create a team called "the happy town fundament rapscallions" and hurt your already diminishing image
                  https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2049813056

                  Last edited by your mom; 06-06-2006 at 6:06 PM.

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                  • MrBigBoyC
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                    • Sep 2022
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                    #10
                    Re: SAPIEN and bent knees. Is this the year that Madden NPCs evolve upright walking?

                    Originally posted by SeaTownGamer
                    Op I'm the guy that made that thread and i seen a clip from on YouTube and it looks like the bent knees are still there.


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                    The bended knees are not the same. you have players walking upright. The posture is much better.

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                    • ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
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                      • Dec 2009
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                      #11
                      Re: SAPIEN and bent knees. Is this the year that Madden NPCs evolve upright walking?

                      Wish someone would do a side by side comparison.
                      Originally posted by Therebelyell626
                      I am going to create a team called "the happy town fundament rapscallions" and hurt your already diminishing image
                      https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2049813056

                      Last edited by your mom; 06-06-2006 at 6:06 PM.

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                      • 49UNCFan
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                        • Aug 2010
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                        #12
                        Re: SAPIEN and bent knees. Is this the year that Madden NPCs evolve upright walking?

                        Originally posted by ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
                        Wish someone would do a side by side comparison.


                        We can’t show the game lol
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                        • ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
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                          #13
                          Re: SAPIEN and bent knees. Is this the year that Madden NPCs evolve upright walking?

                          Originally posted by 49UNCFan
                          We can’t show the game lol
                          Sure you can. Take screen caps, open them in MS Paint. Block out your username, and post them with a burner account.
                          Originally posted by Therebelyell626
                          I am going to create a team called "the happy town fundament rapscallions" and hurt your already diminishing image
                          https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2049813056

                          Last edited by your mom; 06-06-2006 at 6:06 PM.

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                          • iLLWiLL
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                            • Jul 2002
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                            #14
                            Re: SAPIEN and bent knees. Is this the year that Madden NPCs evolve upright walking?

                            The bent knees are still there. As are the knee pads from the 1980s that no one wears anymore.

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                            • TarHeelPhenom
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                              • Jul 2002
                              • 7122

                              #15
                              Re: SAPIEN and bent knees. Is this the year that Madden NPCs evolve upright walking?

                              Originally posted by 49UNCFan
                              We can’t show the game lol

                              Somebody can screenshot from the reveal trailer and from 23 if they really wanted to.
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