Backups playing in playoffs

[Kwarren3]

Has anyone else ran into this issue? I just got to the playoffs in year 1 of my franchise. The first play of the game my starters are out there. On the second play the starters are all benched and the backups are in. Crazy part is the depth chart is fine. So I’m assuming it’s fatigue related? I already tried turning off progressive fatigue. And the problem is still happening.

[dh13king]

Re: Backups playing in playoffs

Has anyone else ran into this issue? I just got to the playoffs in year 1 of my franchise. The first play of the game my starters are out there. On the second play the starters are all benched and the backups are in. Crazy part is the depth chart is fine. So I’m assuming it’s fatigue related? I already tried turning off progressive fatigue. And the problem is still happening.

If you had progressive fatigue on before, turning it off doesn't magically reset your fatigue levels IIRC

[Kwarren3]

Re: Backups playing in playoffs

The setting says turning it off resets it to full before each game.

[dh13king]

Re: Backups playing in playoffs

The setting says turning it off resets it to full before each game.

If you exited the game upon seeing backups in, turned progressive fatigue off, and then restarted the game it doesn't reset to full.

[Kwarren3]

Re: Backups playing in playoffs

If you exited the game upon seeing backups in, turned progressive fatigue off, and then restarted the game it doesn't reset to full.

Well that doesn’t make much sense to me. But okay. Also the following week it did the same thing. So am I just stuck with this for the remainder of this seasons games? Even if I can make it there. It’s not much fun playing in a superbowl with backups.

[MizzouRah]

Re: Backups playing in playoffs

Past games with PF on, and then later turning it off, didn't reset it until the next season.

Turn it OFF, leave it off, and throw away the key.

[Kwarren3]

Re: Backups playing in playoffs

Past games with PF on, and then later turning it off, didn't reset it until the next season.

Turn it OFF, leave it off, and throw away the key.

That is absolutely terrible game design. Man EA… come on. I’m just going to restart the franchise next week with opening day rosters

[sadler]

Re: Backups playing in playoffs

That is absolutely terrible game design. Man EA… come on. I’m just going to restart the franchise next week with opening day rosters

Did you manage your players throughout the season? Less full practice from mid season onwards?
More backup practice or mixed rather than starters?

[tg88forHOF]

Re: Backups playing in playoffs

That is absolutely terrible game design. Man EA… come on. I’m just going to restart the franchise next week with opening day rosters

What's frustrating is that it's a regression.

Last year they eventually fixed it to where if you were managing it correctly (full pads to your bye, use the bye to reset, half pads after, and keep an eye on who was getting the reps), it was usable. You'd have some guys (mostly older guys) carrying some fatigue into the playoffs, but not so much the backups ended up starting.

If you're doing all those things but still having issues, that means they regressed back to an earlier base version that didn't have the later fixes in place, or somehow otherwise let that bug back into the current version.

Either is just sloppy. It happens, but it's sloppy.

[gman2774]

Re: Backups playing in playoffs

What's frustrating is that it's a regression.

Last year they eventually fixed it to where if you were managing it correctly (full pads to your bye, use the bye to reset, half pads after, and keep an eye on who was getting the reps), it was usable. You'd have some guys (mostly older guys) carrying some fatigue into the playoffs, but not so much the backups ended up starting.

If you're doing all those things but still having issues, that means they regressed back to an earlier base version that didn't have the later fixes in place, or somehow otherwise let that big back into the current version.

Either is just sloppy. It happens, but it's sloppy.

Right. I can manage mine. I like the concept and extra challenge. My issues are with the CPU. Nothing worse then investing all the time to reach the last couple of weeks/playoffs and I’m blowing out the cpu and/or their star players are not playing because they’ve mismanaged their fatigue throughout the season. I’ve kept it off just to be safe.

[iceman43]

Re: Backups playing in playoffs

I never do full pad practice due to risk of injury and I never run into that problem

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[Jm0ney2001]

Re: Backups playing in playoffs

Yep. Start practicing with half pads. Players will stay fresh.


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[Unlucky 13]

Re: Backups playing in playoffs

Unfortunately, Progressive Fatigue seems to greatly effect the player's team more and more the later in the season you go, but not effect the CPU at all. Basically, its a handicap if you choose to turn it on.



I've decided to leave it off until they make it even across the board.

[OJsakila]

Re: Backups playing in playoffs

I'm not certain but I don't think having progressive fatigue ON effects the cpu. The cpu isn't starting backups in the playoffs.

Progressive Fatigue only seems to effect the HUM player. Just by using 1/2 pads and trying to get the backups in for practice time the last half the season is about all you would need to do to keep your starters fresh late in the season.
Was it not this way last year? And I don't think the real NFL is hitting hard in full pads during the late season anyways... It takes nearly all week to recoup from the last game's physical toll. These guys aren't practicing in real life in full pads late in the season.

It does appear that you need to go thru this process (literally takes 2 minutes) to be able to utilize Progressive Fatigue.

If you're not into the tedious little adjustments, you can always just turn it off. That's a good option for players that just want to play ball and not spend time tweaking ... I get it.

[Unlucky 13]

Re: Backups playing in playoffs

I'm not certain but I don't think having progressive fatigue ON effects the cpu. The cpu isn't starting backups in the playoffs.

Progressive Fatigue only seems to effect the HUM player. Just by using 1/2 pads and trying to get the backups in for practice time the last half the season is about all you would need to do to keep your starters fresh late in the season.
Was it not this way last year? And I don't think the real NFL is hitting hard in full pads during the late season anyways... It takes nearly all week to recoup from the last game's physical toll. These guys aren't practicing in real life in full pads late in the season.

It does appear that you need to go thru this process (literally takes 2 minutes) to be able to utilize Progressive Fatigue.

If you're not into the tedious little adjustments, you can always just turn it off. That's a good option for players that just want to play ball and not spend time tweaking ... I get it.

I'm willing, even eager, to spend as much time as is necessary to make it work if it effects the CPU too. Especially if there's varience in it, and some CPU teams handle if better/differently than others. But if its just the user, then no thanks.