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  • John_Elway
    Pro
    • Aug 2005
    • 523

    #1

    Fatigue & Auto Subs

    Really trying to figure out how to get fatigue optimized for realistic substitutions in franchise.

    I run Coach Mode and found some good gameplay sliders, but not sure how to get more substitutions.

    My first game I controlled the Titans and Derrick Henry had a great game with 27 touches and 135 yds, however, he didn't get subbed the entire game, no other RBs had any touches.

    RB auto-sub slide is set to 96 OUT and 100 IN, I am sure with those amount of touches. Henry had to dip below 96.

    Fatigue slider is set at 65.

    Any thoughts or solutoins to getting realistic subsitutuions?
  • The Gamer
    Pro
    • Feb 2008
    • 859

    #2
    Re: Fatigue & Auto Subs

    Try 89/92 with 80 fatigue.

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    • Silas34
      Rookie
      • Jan 2018
      • 125

      #3
      Re: Fatigue & Auto Subs

      Fatique at 75
      Out96
      In97

      Playing 11 min quarters 15 sec acc and seein the rbs sub out for one or to plays based on how long they ran the play before. That happens after longer runs or catches. Or after 2-4 runs in a row.

      Without them being too fatiqued and disapearing late in games.

      Also seeing good changes at other positions. If you like i post the hole set
      Last edited by Silas34; 10-19-2023, 12:23 PM.

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      • John_Elway
        Pro
        • Aug 2005
        • 523

        #4
        Re: Fatigue & Auto Subs

        Originally posted by Silas34
        Fatique at 75
        Out96
        In97

        Playing 11 min quarters 15 sec acc and seein the rbs sub out for one or to plays based on how long they ran the play before. That happens after longer runs or catches. Or after 2-4 runs in a row.

        Without them being too fatiqued and disapearing late in games.

        Also seeing good changes at other positions. If you like i post the hole set
        Thanks! I will give these a try. Do you use auto-sub sliders for other positions or just default?

        I am going to change my minutes to 11 also, I was using 9 min with no accel clock

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        • blackhawksfan4ever19
          MVP
          • May 2017
          • 1590

          #5
          Re: Fatigue & Auto Subs

          Originally posted by John_Elway
          Really trying to figure out how to get fatigue optimized for realistic substitutions in franchise.

          I run Coach Mode and found some good gameplay sliders, but not sure how to get more substitutions.

          My first game I controlled the Titans and Derrick Henry had a great game with 27 touches and 135 yds, however, he didn't get subbed the entire game, no other RBs had any touches.

          RB auto-sub slide is set to 96 OUT and 100 IN, I am sure with those amount of touches. Henry had to dip below 96.

          Fatigue slider is set at 65.

          Any thoughts or solutoins to getting realistic subsitutuions?
          What is the name of the game play sliders you're using called?
          What platform are you on?

          Been looking for some good gameplay sliders.
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          • Silas34
            Rookie
            • Jan 2018
            • 125

            #6
            Re: Fatigue & Auto Subs

            Originally posted by John_Elway
            Thanks! I will give these a try. Do you use auto-sub sliders for other positions or just default?

            I am going to change my minutes to 11 also, I was using 9 min with no accel clock
            In/Out
            QB 1/0
            HB 97/96
            WR 95/94
            FB/TE 91/90
            O-Line 1/0

            DT 98/97
            DE 98/97
            LB 98/97
            CB 96/95
            S 91/90

            Worked perfect in an offline franchise with fatique at 75 and 12min 15sec/acc
            And of course progressive fatique OFF

            Last year you had to use slightly different values depending if you play online or offline franchise

            Was dropping to 11 min 15sec and recognized my DE was missing late in the 4th, so maybe have to re adjust but it was just the first game so we‘ll see

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            • John_Elway
              Pro
              • Aug 2005
              • 523

              #7
              Re: Fatigue & Auto Subs

              Originally posted by blackhawksfan4ever19
              What is the name of the game play sliders you're using called?
              What platform are you on?

              Been looking for some good gameplay sliders.
              For playing Coach Mode, I use McGibblets sliders: https://forums.operationsports.com/f...e-sliders.html

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              • kennylc321
                Pro
                • Aug 2018
                • 945

                #8
                Re: Fatigue & Auto Subs

                I think rookie vs all madden plays a role. I recently upped my game to AM and noticed players tire quickly, but this so happened to be around the time the patch came out so I am not completely sure which caused which

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                • Silas34
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2018
                  • 125

                  #9
                  Re: Fatigue & Auto Subs

                  Originally posted by John_Elway
                  Thanks! I will give these a try. Do you use auto-sub sliders for other positions or just default?

                  I am going to change my minutes to 11 also, I was using 9 min with no accel clock
                  11mins you gotta set it at 97/96 (-1 to what i posted yesterday), for DE,DT,LB

                  Dont get the logic behind cause at 12 min/15sec all was fine. Now REDUCING the qtr length to 11/15 the guys are more fatiqued 🤷*♂️

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                  • Gatorade450
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2021
                    • 59

                    #10
                    Re: Fatigue & Auto Subs

                    Originally posted by Silas34
                    11mins you gotta set it at 97/96 (-1 to what i posted yesterday), for DE,DT,LB

                    Dont get the logic behind cause at 12 min/15sec all was fine. Now REDUCING the qtr length to 11/15 the guys are more fatiqued 🤷*♂️
                    Are you still using those auto sub? Is it still working late in the season?

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                    • Silas34
                      Rookie
                      • Jan 2018
                      • 125

                      #11
                      Re: Fatigue & Auto Subs

                      Originally posted by Gatorade450
                      Are you still using those auto sub? Is it still working late in the season?
                      Sure, why not? Has nothing to do with progressive fatique, but playin with it off cause i get my subs over the auto subs sliders anyway

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                      • Gatorade450
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2021
                        • 59

                        #12
                        Re: Fatigue & Auto Subs

                        Originally posted by Silas34
                        Sure, why not? Has nothing to do with progressive fatique, but playin with it off cause i get my subs over the auto subs sliders anyway
                        Thanks really appreciate! I ask cause in other forum people say that using auto sub will cause starter to sit after 1 play and never came back in late season game

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                        • TurboTitan
                          Pro
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 805

                          #13
                          Re: Fatigue & Auto Subs

                          Originally posted by Gatorade450
                          Thanks really appreciate! I ask cause in other forum people say that using auto sub will cause starter to sit after 1 play and never came back in late season game
                          I’m experiencing this. Late in season, progressive fatigue OFF, my DE’s play one play then won’t come back in the game. How have they got around this? Extremely frustrating.

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                          • Gatorade450
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2021
                            • 59

                            #14
                            Re: Fatigue & Auto Subs

                            Originally posted by TurboTitan
                            I’m experiencing this. Late in season, progressive fatigue OFF, my DE’s play one play then won’t come back in the game. How have they got around this? Extremely frustrating.
                            Are you using this auto sub slider?

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                            • TurboTitan
                              Pro
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 805

                              #15
                              Re: Fatigue & Auto Subs

                              Originally posted by Gatorade450
                              Are you using this auto sub slider?
                              My autosub sliders are just at default values. Should I change them to 0/1?

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