Bringing Kotsay into it

[Bremser_Rules]

I wish they could or would fix obvious commentary mistakes 🤦

[Detroit Tigers]

Re: Bringing Kotsay into it

This whole recording-every-line-in-a-studio-with-paid-actor thing is for the birds given what AI can already do. There are AI programs that can recreate Ernie Harwell to a tee; you’d just need someone to write the scrip. & I’d bet you could get some rando baseball autist to write you 385,000 lines for like a thousand bucks.

Like I was trying to say in the other thread about pitching deliveries: the game we want might be well on its way, but it ain’t happening with this code. Think PS7 instead, when AI really gets its teeth into this stuff.

For now? This is all still glorified PS3 stuff at best. Name a game that doesn’t fit that description, I’ll wait. Point being, yes, literally, for the time being, we just need to be happy with what we can get.

The next paradigm is coming. Just give a few more years.

[mrCPUgeek]

Re: Bringing Kotsay into it

Ever since they replaced Matt, I spend about three games with audio on, then switch to “on the field”. Which, tbh, I like just as well.


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[Circle the Wagons]

Re: Bringing Kotsay into it

This whole recording-every-line-in-a-studio-with-paid-actor thing is for the birds given what AI can already do. There are AI programs that can recreate Ernie Harwell to a tee; you’d just need someone to write the scrip. & I’d bet you could get some rando baseball autist to write you 385,000 lines for like a thousand bucks.

Like I was trying to say in the other thread about pitching deliveries: the game we want might be well on its way, but it ain’t happening with this code. Think PS7 instead, when AI really gets its teeth into this stuff.

For now? This is all still glorified PS3 stuff at best. Name a game that doesn’t fit that description, I’ll wait. Point being, yes, literally, for the time being, we just need to be happy with what we can get.

The next paradigm is coming. Just give a few more years.

AI could take the “regional” broadcast styles to a whole new level. It could generate commentary based on each team’s actual broadcast crew. You’d compensate them for their likeness of course, but it could easily be done.

[Archie56]

Re: Bringing Kotsay into it

Ever since they replaced Matt, I spend about three games with audio on, then switch to “on the field”. Which, tbh, I like just as well.


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Matt sounded so robotic in the game to me. I love him in real life broadcasts but they never captured his excitement well in the game. Boog does a fantastic job in The Show but Singleton makes my ears bleed.

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[decga]

Re: Bringing Kotsay into it

Isn't Kotsay, Mark Kotsay the A's manager?

[Armor and Sword]

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And here I think 23's PBP and color was a drastic improvement over 22 with the new team.

I mean there are so many little tidbits on players from every team and I am in June and still hearing new stuff.

Shame on me for liking it.

Disagree.


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[jrp1918]

Re: Bringing Kotsay into it

If they start using AI commentary I will stop playing the game.

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[Circle the Wagons]

Re: Bringing Kotsay into it

If they start using AI commentary I will stop playing the game.

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I’m genuinely curious, not trying to be snarky. Are you coming at it from an anti-tech angle, jobs protection, or something else?

[jrp1918]

Re: Bringing Kotsay into it

AI shouldn't be used to replace people's jobs, especially in creative spaces, or replicate people's voices and likenesses.

It's evil and it's also bad at making things.

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[TripleCrown9]

Re: Bringing Kotsay into it

And here I think 23's PBP and color was a drastic improvement over 22 with the new team.

I mean there are so many little tidbits on players from every team and I am in June and still hearing new stuff.

Shame on me for liking it.

Disagree.


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At the same time, I don't really need to hear about Sciambi's trip to Fenway when they were playing the A's in 1990 anymore.

[Archie56]

Re: Bringing Kotsay into it

At the same time, I don't really need to hear about Sciambi's trip to Fenway when they were playing the A's in 1990 anymore.

Or the commentary about Singleton catching a foul ball in the playoffs. I swear if I hear "I sacrificed a bracelet, it was my wrist and my hand" one more time........[emoji1787]

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[Ghost Of The Year]

Re: Bringing Kotsay into it

Matt sounded so robotic in the game to me. I love him in real life broadcasts but they never captured his excitement well in the game. Boog does a fantastic job in The Show but Singleton makes my ears bleed.

I think the problem is that they overuse Singleton, having him replace Plesac and DeRo. If Sony would dial it back a couple notches with Singleton, he'd be a lot better off for it. A picture tells a thousand words, so a little more silence here and there doesn't have to be a terrible thing. It seems instead they have asked Singleton to recite a 1000 word essay when a 120 character Twitter type response would work not only as well but better in my opinion whether it be Singleton or whomever does color commentary.

[Archie56]

Re: Bringing Kotsay into it

I think the problem is that they overuse Singleton, having him replace Plesac and DeRo. If Sony would dial it back a couple notches with Singleton, he'd be a lot better off for it. A picture tells a thousand words, so a little more silence here and there doesn't have to be a terrible thing. It seems instead they have asked Singleton to recite a 1000 word essay when a 120 character Twitter type response would work not only as well but better in my opinion whether it be Singleton or whomever does color commentary.

Agreed with everything you said. Singleton is definitely overused and dialing him back would be a great thing. The commentary is very fluid, he's just a little much sometimes

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[jcar0725]

Re: Bringing Kotsay into it

I think the problem is that they overuse Singleton, having him replace Plesac and DeRo. If Sony would dial it back a couple notches with Singleton, he'd be a lot better off for it. A picture tells a thousand words, so a little more silence here and there doesn't have to be a terrible thing. It seems instead they have asked Singleton to recite a 1000 word essay when a 120 character Twitter type response would work not only as well but better in my opinion whether it be Singleton or whomever does color commentary.

Totally agree.