Has it finally happened

[Bgrd1080]

Noticing a lot of the regular contributors to franchise mode are contemplating not making the switch this year. I've always wondered when the point of investment in a particular save would overcome the new features of franchise mode and this sounds like the year.
Dragster is still on 23 with The Nats, CB is invested in his Cardinals, BigJ's got a whole new universe created.

So has me wondering is SDS just not doing enough or have we gotten to a point where the games reached a good enough point where the franchise has achieved a point where folks are fully stuck in and can't bare to leave their current iteration and fantasy world?
Think this is all the proof needed for Y2Y saves to finally comeback. Not sure how hard that is to do but hope to see it again in the future.

[jcar0725]

Re: Has it finally happened

Noticing a lot of the regular contributors to franchise mode are contemplating not making the switch this year. I've always wondered when the point of investment in a particular save would overcome the new features of franchise mode and this sounds like the year.
Dragster is still on 23 with The Nats, CB is invested in his Cardinals, BigJ's got a whole new universe created.

So has me wondering is SDS just not doing enough or have we gotten to a point where the games reached a good enough point where the franchise has achieved a point where folks are fully stuck in and can't bare to leave their current iteration and fantasy world?
Think this is all the proof needed for Y2Y saves to finally comeback. Not sure how hard that is to do but hope to see it again in the future.

I've been on OS for like 14 years as a franchise player and I'm getting '24 on Friday morning.

[Jeffrey Smith]

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Not gonna lie. I think if I had a franchise on 23 I was totally invested in I would probably….maybe be skipping this year. 23’ was so enjoyable to me but I couldn’t stick with one team all year.

[LowerWolf]

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I've always been a bit of an anomaly since I like starting fresh with each new game. But I skipped 22 because of how invested I was in my 21 franchise. And if I had gotten invested in my 23 franchise, I'd probably skip 24.

If the game/mode hasn't really changed much, hard to arguing against staying with the version and franchise you know and love.

That being said, I'm still pretty excited about 24. Hoping to get invested enough in my franchise with it that I skip 25.

[IndianSummer]

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I am straddling the fence again this year as I recently started a franchise that I am really enjoying and without Y2Y you can’t just roll over to the new version plus I haven’t really seen anything new that has blown my skirt up.

[LegendKillerOne]

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Even if that is so it does not hurt SDS sales at all. The fraction of players who buy the game and focus on franchise I believe to be small based on what most say around here.

[Madden08PCgmr]

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Even if that is so it does not hurt SDS sales at all. The fraction of players who buy the game and focus on franchise I believe to be small based on what most say around here.

Yep.

Now that its on Switch and XBox, anyone who jumps off the wagon gets replaced easily.

Just like the football game..

[canes21]

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I think it is more so stagnation with the series that has more people leaning towards skipping this year than it is the game has just gotten that good.

Compare franchise mode in The Show to Madden and Madden has, honestly, a deeper mode.

Now, compare The Show's franchise mode to what 2k has done with NBA 2k and it isn't even a competition.

I think that's where a lot of frustrations lie, especially for myself. Yes, the stagnation of the graphics is disappointing and a visual representation of where this game stands, but I could easily live with the graphics being PS3 quality like they are if SDS offered a franchise experience that was even close to what 2k offers in NBA 2k.

We thought when March to October was introduced it was them building a new franchise mode foundation and eventually the modes would merge essentially. That's not really been the case. Instead, both modes seem to somewhat rival each other and it's led to less improvements to franchise mode over time while M2O has also not really significantly improved either.

Maybe SDS is building franchise mode from the ground up, or has something up their sleeve for next year that will wow us, but the last few years have definitely been a bit disappointing with regards to franchise improvements and I think the frustrations have just built up for many longtime fans like myself.

If Y2Y saves were still around, it would soften the blow each year. You could continue your experience while getting all the gameplay improvements. Sadly, that isn't the case and we haven't ever really been given a good explanation as to why they were removed. It certainly wasn't because franchise mode was changing so much year to year as we've found out.

For a season as long as baseball's is, it's hard to convince people to buy the newer version when the additions to the game aren't high in number and they also can't bring over their franchise like they could in the past.

As someone who is only going to play the game due to GamePass and wouldn't have bought it otherwise this year or the last couple, I'd be in a different boat if Y2Y saves were still in. I'd be willing to put in the effort to fix CPU bullpens and play the game more if I could take my franchise progress with me to each new release.

Since I can't and I have to restart, SDS simply isn't improving the areas of the game that matter enough to me to outweigh that.

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[eric7064]

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I bought a PS3 for the sole purpose of getting MLB 09 the Show. This will be the first year since then that I have not bought the game. My steelbook collection will come to an end. I am just tired of the lack of updates to franchise. Getting into an online OOTP league last year will help ease the pain.

[Madden08PCgmr]

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I could play any number of versions long term

17 (last version with season mode)
19 (last with 25-man rosters)
20 (classic rosters, 19 rosters port directly across)
21 (last with the old crew/presentation)

Heck I even tried 10/11 recently (original Wildcard format) but couldn't get them to work on RPCS3.

I would prefer to keep going forward with the series. I do see improvement in the game with every new version. But I will settle on one version eventually if rosters won't port, or if Y2Y saves don't return.

[JoshC1977]

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Speaking for myself....SDS could overhaul the mode entirely and it would not change my reticence to do a new franchise. It's all about my connection to my universe and nothing to do with what SDS does or does not do with the mode.

Frankly, given that I've stopped buying every other sports series (due to terrible franchise mode offerings for my preferred approach to playing), it's likely that I be more inclined to NOT buy the game if they DID overhaul the mode...

[eric7064]

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Speaking for myself....SDS could overhaul the mode entirely and it would not change my reticence to do a new franchise. It's all about my connection to my universe and nothing to do with what SDS does or does not do with the mode.

Frankly, given that I've stopped buying every other sports series (due to terrible franchise mode offerings for my preferred approach to playing), it's likely that I be more inclined to NOT buy the game if they DID overhaul the mode...

That's fair. Maybe they need to bring back the traditional "season mode" that they took out.

2K does it perfectly and I am not much of an NBA fan. The Franchise mode is endlessly customizable where you can be in control of as much or as little as you want, and I think that's the way all sports game should gear the franchise modes. Customization and having options is key, and the Show has very little of that to play with.

[Madden08PCgmr]

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That's fair. Maybe they need to bring back the traditional "season mode" that they took out.

Thats all franchise mode is really, its so barebones.

There is no immersion factor, except the stories you generate personally re:teambuilding

[canes21]

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Speaking for myself....SDS could overhaul the mode entirely and it would not change my reticence to do a new franchise. It's all about my connection to my universe and nothing to do with what SDS does or does not do with the mode.

Frankly, given that I've stopped buying every other sports series (due to terrible franchise mode offerings for my preferred approach to playing), it's likely that I be more inclined to NOT buy the game if they DID overhaul the mode...

I ma sure you have touched on it in the past, but what are you looking for in an ideal franchise mode? I know you're not big on the off the field gameplay and on the field gameplay is what seems to really drive your experience, so I am genuinely curious in what you'd prefer to see a franchise mode offer.

[eric7064]

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Thats all franchise mode is really, its so barebones.

There is no immersion factor, except the stories you generate personally re:teambuilding

That's why I have been amazed when people say the Show's franchise mode is better than other sports games.

Im fine If you like it better and it fits your "style" more, but EVERY other major sports game has a better mode. More in depth mode. More customizable, and Madden, NBA and presumably NCAA will have the option to do franchise with friends. Which the Show took out years ago.

Heck, I even started an NHL franchise last week because they have the option to start as an expansion team, with an expansion draft, and you can build your teams market up to make more money. 2K also has this.

How cool would it be to have that option in the Show? MVP 05 had it!

I love baseball more than anything, and it sucks that it has the most bare mode of all the sports.