Cycloniac's TrueSim NHL 24 Sliders

[Cycloniac]

I know it's late in the game, but I've been working on some sliders and I'd love feedback.

These were tested using the True Broadcast Cam in order to get an accurate measure of game and player speed. They can be used not ony in human vs cpu games, but also in coach mode and CPU v CPU games equally well. They were also tested in franchise mode, so they are franchise-ready.

Difficulty: All Star
Tuner Latest
Post Whistle Rules: Authentic
Rules: Custom (NHL)
Fighting: 1
Icing: Hybrid Icing
Injuries: On
Offsides: Delayed
Penalties: 2
Tie Break: 5 min (3 on 3) then shootout
Trapezoid Rule: Off
Penalty Time Scaling: 2
Coincidental Penalty Time Scale: 0
Period Length: 8 Minutes
Difficulty: All-Star
Attribute Effects : 5
Broken Stick Frequency : 33
Broken Glass: Off (happens too often)
Game Speed : 0
Fatigue Effect : CPU: 40 / Human: 40
Fatigue Recovery : CPU: 25 / Human: 25
Injury Occurrence : CPU: 50 / Human: 50

Back Skating: 100
Hustle Type : Authentic
Puck Carrier Agility : 75
Puck Carrier Skating : 15
Player Acceleration : CPU: 35 / Human: 35
Skating Speed : CPU: 35/ Human: 35
Skating Agility : CPU: 50 / Human: 50


One Timer Accuracy : CPU: 45 / Human: 45
Shot Accuracy : CPU: 25 / Human: 25
Shot Power : CPU: 45 / Hum n: 45
Slap Shot Accuracy : CPU: 55/ Human: 55
Slap Shot Power : CPU: 60 / Human: 60


Manual Passing - OFF
Pass Assist : 67
Min Pass Speed: 50
Max Pass Speed: 60
Saucer Pass Speed : 50
Pass Accuracy : CPU: 35 / Human: 35
Pass Interceptions : 20 / Human: 20
Pass Reception Ease : CPU: 40 / Human: 40
Reception Reaction Time : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Puck Control Rating Effect : CPU: 65 / Human: 65
Puck Speed Reception Effect : CPU: 55 / Human: 55
Pickup Type Effect : CPU: 45 / Human: 45
Bouncing Puck Receptions : CPU: 50 / Human: 50


Incidental Contact Puck Loss : Stick , Legs and Body
Incidental Stick Contact Immunity : 0
Puck Control : CPU: 55 / Human: 55
Deking Impact : CPU: 55 / Human: 55
Spin Deke Impact : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Skating Impact : CPU: 25 / Human: 25


Goalie Cover Frequency : 55
Goalie Passing : 55
Goalie Cross Crease Reaction Time : CPU: 65 / Human: 65
Goalie Save Reaction Time : CPU: 65 / Human: 65
Goalie Deflection Reaction Time : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Goalie Screen Effect : CPU: 60 / Human: 60
Goalie Screen Persistence : CPU: 60 / Human: 60


Board Effect Non-Puck Carrier : 40
Board Effect Puck Carrier : 0
Hitting Assistance : 40
Stumble Threshold : 45
Fall and Stumble Fall Ease: 30
Aggression : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Hitting Power : CPU: 15 / Human: 15
Size Effect : CPU: 10 / Human: 10
Speed Effect : CPU: 10 / Human: 10
Checking/Balance Rating Effect : CPU: 25 / Human: 25
Preparedness Effect : CPU: 10 / Human: 10
Incidental Contact Effect : CPU: 15 / Human: 15
Poke Checking Accuracy : CPU: 0 / Human: 0
Poke Checking Power : CPU: 15 / Human: 15
Stick Lift Effectiveness CPU: 25 / Human: 25


CPU Penalties: 20
CPU Teammate Penalties: 20
Tripping: CPU: 20 / Human: 20
Slashing : CPU: 35 / Human: 35
Elbowing : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
High Sticking : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Cross Checking: CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Boarding : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Charging : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Delay of Game : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Holding : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Hooking : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Interference : CPU: 35 / Human: 35


AI Learning: 0
CPU Difficulty Adjustment: 0
CPU Faceoff Difficulty: 50
Fight Difficulty: 50
CPU Strategy Adjustment: 5

[g00se]

Re: Cycloniac's TrueSim NHL 24 Sliders

Neither of the links seem to work

[Cycloniac]

Re: Cycloniac's TrueSim NHL 24 Sliders

Neither of the links seem to work

Let me know what you think of this clip, 1 period of gameplay:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2160438793

[sjp99]

Re: Cycloniac's TrueSim NHL 24 Sliders

Pace of this looks very good. Passing percentage is way too high tho and subsequently shots are too. I think NHL avg. % is around 75-80? Can you post the full slider set, assuming it's different/updated from your roster thread?

[Cycloniac]

Re: Cycloniac's TrueSim NHL 24 Sliders

Pace of this looks very good. Passing percentage is way too high tho and subsequently shots are too. I think NHL avg. % is around 75-80? Can you post the full slider set, assuming it's different/updated from your roster thread?

Yes, here's what I'm currently using

Difficulty: All Star
Tuner Latest
Post Whistle Rules: Authentic
Rules: Custom (NHL)
Fighting: 1
Icing: Hybrid Icing
Injuries: On
Offsides: Delayed
Penalties: 2
Tie Break: 5 min (3 on 3) then shootout
Trapezoid Rule: Off
Penalty Time Scaling: 2
Coincidental Penalty Time Scale: 0
Period Length: 8 Minutes
Difficulty: All-Star
Attribute Effects : 5
Broken Stick Frequency : 33
Broken Glass: Off (happens too often)
Game Speed : 0
Fatigue Effect : CPU: 40 / Human: 40
Fatigue Recovery : CPU: 25 / Human: 25
Injury Occurrence : CPU: 50 / Human: 50

Back Skating: 100
Hustle Type : Authentic
Puck Carrier Agility : 75
Puck Carrier Skating : 15
Player Acceleration : CPU: 35 / Human: 35
Skating Speed : CPU: 35/ Human: 35
Skating Agility : CPU: 50 / Human: 50


One Timer Accuracy : CPU: 45 / Human: 45
Shot Accuracy : CPU: 25 / Human: 25
Shot Power : CPU: 45 / Hum n: 45
Slap Shot Accuracy : CPU: 55/ Human: 55
Slap Shot Power : CPU: 60 / Human: 60


Manual Passing - OFF
Pass Assist : 67
Min Pass Speed: 50
Max Pass Speed: 60
Saucer Pass Speed : 50
Pass Accuracy : CPU: 35 / Human: 35
Pass Interceptions : 20 / Human: 20
Pass Reception Ease : CPU: 40 / Human: 40
Reception Reaction Time : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Puck Control Rating Effect : CPU: 65 / Human: 65
Puck Speed Reception Effect : CPU: 55 / Human: 55
Pickup Type Effect : CPU: 45 / Human: 45
Bouncing Puck Receptions : CPU: 50 / Human: 50


Incidental Contact Puck Loss : Stick , Legs and Body
Incidental Stick Contact Immunity : 0
Puck Control : CPU: 55 / Human: 55
Deking Impact : CPU: 55 / Human: 55
Spin Deke Impact : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Skating Impact : CPU: 25 / Human: 25


Goalie Cover Frequency : 55
Goalie Passing : 55
Goalie Cross Crease Reaction Time : CPU: 65 / Human: 65
Goalie Save Reaction Time : CPU: 65 / Human: 65
Goalie Deflection Reaction Time : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Goalie Screen Effect : CPU: 60 / Human: 60
Goalie Screen Persistence : CPU: 60 / Human: 60


Board Effect Non-Puck Carrier : 40
Board Effect Puck Carrier : 0
Hitting Assistance : 40
Stumble Threshold : 45
Fall and Stumble Fall Ease: 30
Aggression : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Hitting Power : CPU: 15 / Human: 15
Size Effect : CPU: 10 / Human: 10
Speed Effect : CPU: 10 / Human: 10
Checking/Balance Rating Effect : CPU: 25 / Human: 25
Preparedness Effect : CPU: 10 / Human: 10
Incidental Contact Effect : CPU: 15 / Human: 15
Poke Checking Accuracy : CPU: 0 / Human: 0
Poke Checking Power : CPU: 15 / Human: 15
Stick Lift Effectiveness CPU: 25 / Human: 25


CPU Penalties: 20
CPU Teammate Penalties: 20
Tripping: CPU: 20 / Human: 20
Slashing : CPU: 35 / Human: 35
Elbowing : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
High Sticking : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Cross Checking: CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Boarding : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Charging : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Delay of Game : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Holding : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Hooking : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Interference : CPU: 35 / Human: 35


AI Learning: 0
CPU Difficulty Adjustment: 0
CPU Faceoff Difficulty: 50
Fight Difficulty: 50
CPU Strategy Adjustment: 5

[g00se]

Re: Cycloniac's TrueSim NHL 24 Sliders

Yes, here's what I'm currently using

Difficulty: All Star
Tuner Latest
Post Whistle Rules: Authentic
Rules: Custom (NHL)
Fighting: 1
Icing: Hybrid Icing
Injuries: On
Offsides: Delayed
Penalties: 2
Tie Break: 5 min (3 on 3) then shootout
Trapezoid Rule: Off
Penalty Time Scaling: 2
Coincidental Penalty Time Scale: 0
Period Length: 8 Minutes
Difficulty: All-Star
Attribute Effects : 5
Broken Stick Frequency : 33
Broken Glass: Off (happens too often)
Game Speed : 0
Fatigue Effect : CPU: 40 / Human: 40
Fatigue Recovery : CPU: 25 / Human: 25
Injury Occurrence : CPU: 50 / Human: 50

Back Skating: 100
Hustle Type : Authentic
Puck Carrier Agility : 75
Puck Carrier Skating : 15
Player Acceleration : CPU: 35 / Human: 35
Skating Speed : CPU: 35/ Human: 35
Skating Agility : CPU: 50 / Human: 50


One Timer Accuracy : CPU: 45 / Human: 45
Shot Accuracy : CPU: 25 / Human: 25
Shot Power : CPU: 45 / Hum n: 45
Slap Shot Accuracy : CPU: 55/ Human: 55
Slap Shot Power : CPU: 60 / Human: 60


Manual Passing - OFF
Pass Assist : 67
Min Pass Speed: 50
Max Pass Speed: 60
Saucer Pass Speed : 50
Pass Accuracy : CPU: 35 / Human: 35
Pass Interceptions : 20 / Human: 20
Pass Reception Ease : CPU: 40 / Human: 40
Reception Reaction Time : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Puck Control Rating Effect : CPU: 65 / Human: 65
Puck Speed Reception Effect : CPU: 55 / Human: 55
Pickup Type Effect : CPU: 45 / Human: 45
Bouncing Puck Receptions : CPU: 50 / Human: 50


Incidental Contact Puck Loss : Stick , Legs and Body
Incidental Stick Contact Immunity : 0
Puck Control : CPU: 55 / Human: 55
Deking Impact : CPU: 55 / Human: 55
Spin Deke Impact : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Skating Impact : CPU: 25 / Human: 25


Goalie Cover Frequency : 55
Goalie Passing : 55
Goalie Cross Crease Reaction Time : CPU: 65 / Human: 65
Goalie Save Reaction Time : CPU: 65 / Human: 65
Goalie Deflection Reaction Time : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Goalie Screen Effect : CPU: 60 / Human: 60
Goalie Screen Persistence : CPU: 60 / Human: 60


Board Effect Non-Puck Carrier : 40
Board Effect Puck Carrier : 0
Hitting Assistance : 40
Stumble Threshold : 45
Fall and Stumble Fall Ease: 30
Aggression : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Hitting Power : CPU: 15 / Human: 15
Size Effect : CPU: 10 / Human: 10
Speed Effect : CPU: 10 / Human: 10
Checking/Balance Rating Effect : CPU: 25 / Human: 25
Preparedness Effect : CPU: 10 / Human: 10
Incidental Contact Effect : CPU: 15 / Human: 15
Poke Checking Accuracy : CPU: 0 / Human: 0
Poke Checking Power : CPU: 15 / Human: 15
Stick Lift Effectiveness CPU: 25 / Human: 25


CPU Penalties: 20
CPU Teammate Penalties: 20
Tripping: CPU: 20 / Human: 20
Slashing : CPU: 35 / Human: 35
Elbowing : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
High Sticking : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Cross Checking: CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Boarding : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Charging : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Delay of Game : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Holding : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Hooking : CPU: 50 / Human: 50
Interference : CPU: 35 / Human: 35


AI Learning: 0
CPU Difficulty Adjustment: 0
CPU Faceoff Difficulty: 50
Fight Difficulty: 50
CPU Strategy Adjustment: 5

Any suggestions or advice on tweaking these for Be a Pro 20 minute periods?

[Cycloniac]

Re: Cycloniac's TrueSim NHL 24 Sliders

Any suggestions or advice on tweaking these for Be a Pro 20 minute periods?

-Increase poke and stick lift effectiveness
-Decrease puck control
-Increase pass interceptions
-Decrease cover puck frequency slightly

[MartanCJ]

Re: Cycloniac's TrueSim NHL 24 Sliders

Best sliders I ever tried. Even 20 mins be a pro feels ok. I can see players doing stuff they never did before, looks really like hockey

[g00se]

Re: Cycloniac's TrueSim NHL 24 Sliders

-Increase poke and stick lift effectiveness
-Decrease puck control
-Increase pass interceptions
-Decrease cover puck frequency slightly

I've changed more than just that over the last few weeks, but the big change I made that made it really work was decreasing skating agility down to 35, and back skating to 85. Before doing that, hitting was impossible, players were making impossible turns, especially with the puck, and Dmen kept getting beat.



The Dmen was an interesting one because they kept standing still longer and refusing to maintain any sort of gap, probably because the AI uses back skating speed to factor in gap control. Dropping it down a bit made them actually play realistic.



That skating setup with the two changes I made is the closest to real life pace I've seen, and makes the game fun and fair with the realistic speeds