C0883R M24 ALL PRO MATHEMATICAL SLIDERS

[C0883R]

MATHEMATICAL SLIDERS V6

UPDATES 6-30-24

ALL NEW SLIDER SET, I EXPANDED MY CPU SACK TIMINGS TO THE SP TEAMS. NOW ALL THAT IS MATHEMATICAL IS INJURIES, FATIGUE, SPEED AND PENALTY VALUES. WHILE VERSION 5 DID PLAY WELL ON THE DEFENSE SIDE. I WANTED TO INCREASE THE CPU OFFENSE SIDE AND I DID JUST THAT. THE CPU MAY OR MAY NOT SCORE MORE BUT THEY WILL GET MORE YARDS BETWEEN RUNNING AND PASSING THE BALL WHILE AT THE SAME TIME BEING BETTER AT SWITCHING BACK AND FORTH THROUGH OUT THE GAME ON BEING ABLE TO SHUT DOWN THE PLAYER RUN AND PASSING GAME A LOT BETTER NOW.

ALTERNATIVE VALUES

FOR A BETTER CPU SCORING OFFENSE INPUT THE VALUES BELOW. WARNING THE CPU PASSING WILL BE MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO STOP NOW BUT THEY SHOULD SCORE EASIER. ONLY USE THE VALUES BELOW IF THE CPU IS NOT SCORING ENOUGH AGAINST YOU ON AVG. THIS MAY ALSO OPEN THE PLAYER OFFENSE UP A LITTLE MORE TOO. TECHNICALLY THE VALUES BELOW ARE A LITTLE FAST AND OVERPOWERED WHICH IS WHY YOU SHOULD ONLY USE THESE IF YOU ARE SHUTTING THE CPU OUT TOO MUCH ON AVG OR JUST NEED AN EXTRA CHALLENGE.

ALTERNATIVE PLAY NOW: INJURIES 14 FATIGUE 50 PLAYER SPEED 90 ROUGHING THE PASSER 25 ALL OTHERS 65 AND ON
ALTERNATIVE FRANCHISE: INJURIES 14 FATIGUE 50 PLAYER SPEED 90 ROUGHING THE PASSER 50 ALL OTHERS 70 AND ON

ABOUT MY SLIDERS

I DON’T FOCUS ON MOVING A SLIDER UP AND DOWN FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF MAKING RUNNING OR PASSING OR WHATEVER EASIER OR HARDER. THAT JUST IS NOT MY STYLE. INSTEAD, WHAT I DO IS FOCUS ON CPU SACK TIMINGS. IT IS NOT ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL NUMBERS BUT THE NUMBER SEQUENCE. WITH THE RIGHT SEQUENCE OF NUMBERS THIS ALONE WILL DETERMINE HOW EASY OR HARD THE GAME PLAY IS. WHEN THAT IS COMPLETE, I SET THE OTHER SLIDERS LIKE INJURIES, FATIGUE, PLAYER SPEED AND PENALTY VALUES TO COMPLIMENT THE GAMES OFFENSE, DEFENSE AND SP TEAM SLIDERS THAT WILL KEEP THE GAME PLAY AGGRESSIVE JUST NOT AT THE EXTREME OF KEEPING THE CPU FROM GETTING THEIR SHARE OF THE YARDS RATHER THE GAME IS A DEFENSIVE BATTLE OR A BLOW OUT. FEEDBACK IS WELCOMED.

TIPS

YOU CAN PLAY THE GAME HOWEVER YOU WANT BUT IF YOU FOLLOW MY ADVICE BELOW YOU WILL HAVE BETTER AND MORE DYNAMIC GAMES.

• PUT SKILL POINTS ON FAST AND ONLY UPDATE YOUR STAFF 1 TIME A YEAR STARTING THE FIRST WEEK OF EACH SEASON THEN DON’T UPDATE AGAIN UNTIL WEEK 1 OF THE FOLLOWING SEASON. THIS HELPS KEEP YOUR GROWTH MORE EVEN WITH THE CPU AND FOR PUTTING THE POINTS ON FAST. THE CPU NEEDS THOSE POINTS FAST TO GIVE YOU BETTER GAME PLAY OTHERWISE IT WILL TAKE LONGER FOR THEM TO START PLAYING BETTER AGAINST YOU, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A GOOD TEAM. CPU NEEDS ALL THE HELP THEY CAN GET IN THIS DEPARTMENT.

• ONLY OPEN UP WEEKLY STRATEGIES 1 TIME AND INPUT YOUR HEALTH REPS FOR BOTH DEFENSE AND OFFENSE THEN BACK OUT AND NEVER OPEN IT AGAIN. JUST SIMULATE THE PRACTICE EVERY TIME YOU PLAY YOUR NEXT GAME. FOR 1 THIS HELPS THE CPU TO PLAY BETTER AGAINST YOU AND 2 YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO COMPLETE YOUR GOALS EVERY WEEK KEEPING YOU AND THE CPU ON A MORE EVEN LEVEL WHEN IT COMES TO GETTING SKILL POINTS.

• ON BOTH OFFENSE AND DEFENSE PICK THE COACH SUGGESTION 100% OF THE TIME NO MATTER WHAT THE SITUATION IS. THIS WILL ALLOW YOUR GAMES TO BE MORE DYNAMIC AND NOT CHEESE THE CPU. THIS WILL KEEP YOU FROM WINNING ALL OF YOUR GAMES. ALSO, IF YOU HAVE A BAD TEAM, YOU WILL LOSE MORE OR IF YOU HAVE A GOOD TEAM, YOU WILL WIN MORE.

V6 GAME PLAY

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SLIDER WORKSHEET V6

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C0883R M24 MATHEMATICAL ALL PRO SLIDERS V6

I STARTED FROM 50 AND DEPENDING ON THE SLIDER I EITHER WENT UP OR DOWN 1 NUMBER AT A TIME UNTIL THE CPU COULD SACK ME 10 TIMES IN A ROW IN UNDER 5 SECONDS. TO FIND THE RIGHT NUMBERS I DID IT IN SETS OF 3.

THIS MEANS WHEN I FIND A NUMBER THAT THE CPU SACKED ME 10 TIMES IN A ROW IN LESS THEN 5 SECONDS ON. I WOULD THEN RESET THE SLIDER BACK TO 50 EXIT THE GAME THEN LOAD THE GAME BACK UP AND REPEAT UNTIL I COULD GET THE GAME TO SELECT THE SAME NUMBER AT LEAST 2 OUT OF 3 TIMES.
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CPU SACK TIMINGS

PLAYER
QB ACCURACY =43

• 43
• 40
• 43

CPU
QBA ACCURACY =51

• 53
• 51
• 51

PLAYER
PASS BLOCKING =49

• 49
• 46
• 49

CPU PASS BLOCKING =54

• 54
• 54
• 51

PLAYER WR CATCHING =51

• 51
• 51
• 53

CPU WR CATCHING =55

• 55
• 52
• 55

PLAYER RUN BLOCKING =45

• 48
• 42
• 46
• 45
• 48
• 49
• 45
• 45
• 49

CPU RUN BLOCKING =56

• 64
• 54
• 51
• 60
• 56
• 56

PLAYER BALL SECURITY =49

• 49
• 48
• 49

CPU BALL SECURITY =48

• 46
• 49
• 47
• 48
• 46
• 48

PLAYER REACTION TIME =43

• 49
• 46
• 48
• 49
• 48
• 44
• 47
• 43
• 43

CPU REACTION TIME =53

• 53
• 53
• 51

PLAYER INTERCEPTIONS =49

• 49
• 49
• 49

CPU INTERCEPTIONS =49

• 49
• 45
• 49

PLAYER PASS COVERAGE =51

• 51
• 52
• 51

CPU PASS COVERAGE =52

• 51
• 52
• 52

PLAYER TACKLING =49

• 49
• 49
• 49

CPU TACKLING =55

• 52
• 55
• 55

PLAYER+CPU FG POWER+ACCURACY =49

• FGP 47 FGA 47
• FGP 49 FGA 49
• FGP 49 FGA 49

PLAYER+CPU PUNT POWER+ACCURACY =52

• PP 52 PA 52
• PP 52 PA 52
• PP 56 PA 56

PLAYER+CPU KICKOFF POWER =48

• KP 49
• KP 47
• KP 45
• KP 48
• KP 48
• KP 49

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TOTAL PLAYER+CPU VALUES

PLAYER =679 14 SLIDERS
CPU =723 14 SLIDERS

TOTAL 619+723=1,342 ÷28 SLIDERS =47.9285714286

NEW NUMBER STRING
47.92 85.71 42.86

Y N Y
40 40 43 43 10 20 22 14
50 48 48 50 50 48 48 50
90 86 86 90 90 86 86 90

INJURIES 14
FATIGUE 50
SPEED 90
14+50+90=154÷3=51.33

PLAY NOW ALTERNATIVE
ROUGHING THE PASSER 25 ALL OTHERS 65 & ON

FRANCHISE ALTERNATIVE
ROUGHING THE PASSER 50 ALL OTHERS 70 & ON

ALTERNATIVE NOTES:
THIS IS TECHNICALLY TO FAST FOR MY SLIDER VALUE AND BECAUSE OF THAT THE PLAYER AND CPU WILL BE ABLE TO SCORE QUICKER ESPECIALLY ON PASSING PLAYS. THE ONLY REASON I CONSIDERED THIS IS BECAUSE BOTH DEFENSE AND OFFENSE FOR BOTH CPU AND PLAYER IS STILL GOOD JUST PLAYS A LITTLE MORE LOOSE MAKING THE PASSING A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT TO STOP THEN THE DEFAULT.

INJURIES 20
FATIGUE 48
PLAYER SPEED 86
20+48+86=154÷3=51.33

PLAY NOW
ROUGHING THE PASSER 30 ALL OTHERS 50 & ON

FRANCHISE
ROUGHING THE PASSER 51 ALL OTHERS 71 & ON
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STAR - X FACTOR SLIDERS

53 MAN ROSTER =1,696
25% =424 (RND TO NEAREST 10)
420/3 =140
140/2 =70 (TO HIGH FOR 3 OF X FACTOR PLAYERS)
70/2 =35 (X FACTORS)

420-35 =385 (RND TO NEAREST 10)
390/3 =130
130/2 =65 (SUPERSTARS)

65+35 =100
420-100 =320 (STARS)
320+65+35 =420 (TOTAL STARS-XF EACH YEAR)
420/32 =13.125 (AVERAGE PER TEAM EACH YEAR. THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE HIDDEN DEV TRAIT PLAYERS)

13.125 (MEANS THE MAJORITY OF THE TEAMS EACH YEAR WILL HAVE 13+ S-XF PLAYERS ON THE TEAM AT THE BEGINNING OF WEEK 1 THE FOLLOWING SEASON. SOME TEAMS WILL HAVE LESS SOME WILL HAVE MORE)

X FACTORS 35
SUPERSTARS 65
STARS 320

(THE REASON FOR ROUNDING TO THE NEAREST 10. IS BECAUSE SUPERSTAR ONLY GOES IN INCREMENTS OF 5 AND STAR GOES IN INCREMENTS OF 10. IN ORDER FOR THE MATH TO ADD UP I HAD TO ROUND TO THE NEAREST 10)

[C0883R]

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I am rebuilding the Arizona Cardinals from the ground up with a 100% Rookie Team. I moved them to Houston Texas to become the Houston Oilers. They are all ready off to a bad start. 0-2

Since I reverted back to V1 I will start releasing more V1 Game Play videos between 1-2 days from now.
You can follow my Franchise here https://neonsportz.com/leagues/HOU/teams/HST#.

[C0883R]

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had to update my S-XF sliders accidentally put the wrong numbers.

here is the update along with the calculations I used to get there


53 MAN ROSTER =1,696 25% =424 (RND TO NEAREST 10)
420/3 =140
140/2 =70 (TO HIGH FOR NUMBER OF X FACTOR PLAYERS)
70/2 =35 (X FACTORS)

420-35 =385 (RND TO NEAREST 10)
390/3 =130
130/2 =65 (Superstars)

65+35 =100
420-100 =320 (Stars)
320+65+35 =420 (# OF S-XF PLAYERS EACH YEAR. THIS WILL FLUCTUATE SOME )
420/32 =13.125 (AVG S-XF PLAYERS PER TEAM EACH YEAR)

13.125 means the majority of the teams will have 13+S-XF Players on the team at the beginning on week 1 the following season. Some teams will have less.

X FACTORS 35
SUPERSTARS 65
STARS 320

(The reason for Rounding to the nearest 10. Is because Superstar only goes in increments of 5 and Star goes in increments of 10. In order for the math to add up I had to Round to nearest 10)

[PnthrPitt412]

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You plan on doing any AM, I used yours last year good stuff

[C0883R]

Re: C0883R M24 ALL PRO MATHEMATICAL SLIDERS

You plan on doing any AM, I used yours last year good stuff

not for m24. Maybe for the NCAA and M25 I will make a highest difficulty one.

[C0883R]

Re: C0883R M24 ALL PRO MATHEMATICAL SLIDERS

I updated the 2nd post with stats and my first 2 weeks of game play. boy was those games a disaster lol. I am glade though I was able to show the CPU being good enough to make it tough on the Player when you have a Low OVR Team. what is even better is I was having troubles with what I would call Avg playing Teams. WAS and the Giants.


I am working on a Alternative Version that will have the Speed over 50. If I can find the right pattern I will release it. If not then I will just keep Speed @32.

[C0883R]

Re: C0883R M24 ALL PRO MATHEMATICAL SLIDERS

I just uploaded a new version of my sliders. I now offer 2 different speeds for franchise mode. 32 good for low rated teams and 68 better for high rated teams. the CPU can Run and Pass better on both speeds compared to the 32 speed I have in version 1.

If you liked V1 Speed then just Keep this Injuries 10 Fatigue 52 Speed 32.

Thank You for those of you that have tried these. I hope you are enjoying your games. Feed Back is welcomed.

I also updated Post 2. I erased the stats and game play video from V1 since i feel like the CPU is now improved and the v1 game play does not represent what you will see on V2. I will be adding updated stats and game play video for V2 within the next day or 2 maybe tonight if I have the time.

[C0883R]

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I reverted back to V1 Speed Injury 10 Fatigue 52 Speed 32. I just like the overall feel of this one.

Version 2 Injury 10 Fatigue 50 Speed 32
This to had a good feel the problem was I felt my DL was to weak against the CPU OL and the CPU did not feel as threatening when it comes to sacking my QB.

Version 2 Injury 10 Fatigue 51 Speed 68
This just felt way to fast. I was just trying to give something that was over a 50 speed and I feel like I have failed on this one.

Version 1.0 Injuries 10 Fatigue 52 Speed 68
I like the feel of this one the best. The CPU is more threatening towards the player QB and things don't feel rushed and my DL is not to weak against the CPU and I get more penalties with this one.

I am pretty sure I will continue playing around with the speeds. If you don't like any of the speeds then feel free to play around with it.

This is my last slider update for M24. If I do start fancying another speed I will post it. If not then my future updates will be about my franchise

[C0883R]

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Here is the stats of my first 2 games. More coming later

[C0883R]

Re: C0883R M24 ALL PRO MATHEMATICAL SLIDERS

Below is Weeks 4-5 using my V3. You can watch the games on PG1 Post 1 first video. I also updated first Post with new Update on sliders. Alternative Injuries 20 Fatigue 48 Speed 68 for franchise.

IF you don't like the threat of the CPU sacking you on 32 then 68 is a good alternative. Both of them are good. Unfortunately on the 68 one as you can see with the CIN game it is possible to shut the CPU Run game down just a little to much. I did not run much that game either so, in that perspective not to bad. As you can see in the SF game shutting down the run will not be part of all games just some. Play with both 32 and 68 Speed and see which one works best for you.

Almost tied the Bengals in the 4th but unfortunately I missed the FG
You can follow my franchise here https://neonsportz.com/leagues/HOU/teams/HST

[C0883R]

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I am Revamping my sliders. This is what I am working with so, far. At the moment these values are only good for Play Now. I am still tweaking Injuries, Fatigue & Speed for franchise mode.

Play Now (MM)
Player
Passing
QB Accuracy 27
Pass Blocking 43 Or 23 (still trying to decide which one is best)
WR Catching 45

Rushing
Run Blocking 23
Ball Security 39

Pass Defense
Pass Reaction 51
Interceptions 37
Pass Coverage 54

Rush Defense
Tackling 63

CPU
Passing
QB Accuracy 54
Pass Blocking 60
WR Catching 46

Rushing
Run Blocking 60
Ball Security 40

Pass Defense
Pass Reaction 52
Interceptions 38
Pass Coverage 55

Rush Defense
Tackling 64

Special Teams Both Player & CPU
FG POWER 48
FG ACCURACY 36
PUNT POWER 42
PUNT ACCURACY 78
KICK OFF POWER 46

Play Now ( Other then Player Pass Block. This is what I still need to tweak in franchise)
Game Options
Injury 10
Fatigue 50
Player Speed 75

Penalties
False Start 75
Offsides 75
Facemask 75
Offensive Holding 75
Illegal Man in the Block 75
Roughing The Passer 25
Defensive Pass Interference 75
All on except for Intentional Grounding.

Main Menu Settings
Pass Type Classic
Skill Level All Pro
Game Style Simulation
Quarter Length 8 Minutes
Accelerated Clock ON
Minimum play Clock Time 20
Auto Flip Defensive Play Call On
Ball Hawk Turn On
Heat Seeker Turn On
Switch Assist Turn On
Controlled Art Play Turn On
Everything Not Listed is Your Choice

[drae2]

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What system are these for?

[gavin el titans]

Re: C0883R M24 ALL PRO MATHEMATICAL SLIDERS

I am Revamping my sliders. This is what I am working with so, far. At the moment these values are only good for Play Now. I am still tweaking Injuries, Fatigue & Speed for franchise mode.

Play Now (MM)
Player
Passing
QB Accuracy 27
Pass Blocking 43 Or 23 (still trying to decide which one is best)
WR Catching 45

Rushing
Run Blocking 23
Ball Security 39

Pass Defense
Pass Reaction 51
Interceptions 37
Pass Coverage 54

Rush Defense
Tackling 63

CPU
Passing
QB Accuracy 54
Pass Blocking 60
WR Catching 46

Rushing
Run Blocking 60
Ball Security 40

Pass Defense
Pass Reaction 52
Interceptions 38
Pass Coverage 55

Rush Defense
Tackling 64

Special Teams Both Player & CPU
FG POWER 48
FG ACCURACY 36
PUNT POWER 42
PUNT ACCURACY 78
KICK OFF POWER 46

Play Now ( Other then Player Pass Block. This is what I still need to tweak in franchise)
Game Options
Injury 10
Fatigue 50
Player Speed 75

Penalties
False Start 75
Offsides 75
Facemask 75
Offensive Holding 75
Illegal Man in the Block 75
Roughing The Passer 25
Defensive Pass Interference 75
All on except for Intentional Grounding.

Main Menu Settings
Pass Type Classic
Skill Level All Pro
Game Style Simulation
Quarter Length 8 Minutes
Accelerated Clock ON
Minimum play Clock Time 20
Auto Flip Defensive Play Call On
Ball Hawk Turn On
Heat Seeker Turn On
Switch Assist Turn On
Controlled Art Play Turn On
Everything Not Listed is Your Choice

This pretty much near exact ones I use only difference is speed is 40 and penalties are 60 but pi is 0/off and roughing is 40.

Do you think having the speed at 75 changes it a lot from 40? I usually will have my sliders in 20s so 0/20/40/60/80/100 are the ones I’d use. I would think 75 would be closer to 80 rather then 60

[C0883R]

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What system are these for?

these are for the console version. Like Playstation and Xbox

[C0883R]

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This pretty much near exact ones I use only difference is speed is 40 and penalties are 60 but pi is 0/off and roughing is 40.

Do you think having the speed at 75 changes it a lot from 40? I usually will have my sliders in 20s so 0/20/40/60/80/100 are the ones I’d use. I would think 75 would be closer to 80 rather then 60

there is nothing wrong with the numbers you use. they would not work for my slider set.

I don't manually just input a number for my sliders. for mine speed in the 70's is best. I have tried other speeds and it just messes up game play to much.

What I do before making a slider set is
1 I watch the CPU kick to get the Special team sliders. i keep them at a 250 value

2 I total up all the sliders and divide by 38 sliders. This gives me a number string that I use to find mathematical patterns for the injury speed fatigue and penalty numbers.

Example
Default Slider Values
H Offense+Defense+SPT=700
C Offense+Defense+SPT=700
H+C 700+700 =1400
H+C = 28 Game play Sliders
7 Penalty Sliders = 350
Injury =10 Fatigue =50 Speed =50
Total Sliders =38
Total Slider Value =1400+350+110 =1,860

# String for both Play Now & Franchise
1,860÷38 =48.94 73.68 42.11

48.94 (48) (49) (50) (51) (52)
73.68 (70) (73) (74) (75)
42.11 (21) (20) (11) (16) (10) (8)

Play Now
Pre Sack Timing's
Injuries 20
Fatigue 40
Speed 75
Pen 20/80

Post Sack Timing's
Injuries 20
Fatigue 50
Speed 75
Pen 25/75



The Pre sack Timings values is what the game played best on before I modified CPU and Player Game Play Sliders.



Post Sack is the Values that the game plays best on in Play Now after I made the CPU and Player Game Play Slider modifications


I am still working the String for Franchise Part.


3. After I get my Pre Sack Timings Values then I start on the CPU and Player Sliders. (I created my own Sack Timings formula using a certain Pass Play and a stop watch. My formula will pick out the right numbers based on the Injury Speed Fatigue and Penalty values i start with. It will only give me a different number the second time around if I change any value on the Injury Speed Fatigue or Penalty value.

4 After I get my sliders then I have to re work the Number String to find the right Mathematical patterns that will give the best game play results. I do this in Play Now first then I finish it in Franchise.