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  • Becanes
    Pro
    • Jul 2002
    • 872

    #1

    Not the Expert speaks

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  • Dagan
    Pro
    • Jun 2020
    • 623

    #2
    Re: Not the Expert speaks

    He begins talking about player editing at just after the 19:00 minute mark.
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    • Dawgfan1
      MVP
      • Jul 2013
      • 1202

      #3
      Re: Not the Expert speaks

      For those that don't want to watch the 33 minutes, the major points I could take from the video were:
      - Reiterates positive initial impressions of the gameplay
      - Pointed out a bug in the gameplay trailer I didn't personally notice, which was a Tennessee edge rusher's pants changing colors in the clip of Jalen Milroe throwing the moonball lob pass (could be fixed by release)
      - In gameplay he felt he could effectively use the left stick to "soft juke", similar to changing directions quickly in NCAA 14
      - Reiterates that Road to Glory is not a cutscene-based story mode, more "gameplay-focused with light RPG elements"
      - Says RTG draws inspiration and elements from NCAA 06, 11, and 14
      - Expresses disappointment at the player editing options (no new info given to my knowledge), says he will be advocating for improvements to that to the devs
      - I think this has been reported on before, but he mentions EA used machine learning to generate faces for all the opted-in players, and that the game will take data from these faces to create new faces for generated recruits. Points to more varied faces
      - Reiterates dynasty recruiting feeling closer to pre-NCAA 14
      - Clarifies Wear and Tear as influencing attribute degradation more than causing injuries, most injuries under Wear and Tear happen only if you are reckless with your players. Freak/RNG injuries should occur at similar levels to Madden, according to devs.
      - Says he "thinks" you can turn Wear and Tear off
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      NFL: Atlanta Falcons
      NBA: Atlanta Hawks
      MLB: Atlanta Braves
      Soccer: Southampton and Atlanta United
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      • noarmsduck
        Pro
        • Mar 2010
        • 997

        #4
        Re: Not the Expert speaks

        Originally posted by Dawgfan1
        For those that don't want to watch the 33 minutes, the major points I could take from the video were:
        - Reiterates positive initial impressions of the gameplay
        - Pointed out a bug in the gameplay trailer I didn't personally notice, which was a Tennessee edge rusher's pants changing colors in the clip of Jalen Milroe throwing the moonball lob pass (could be fixed by release)
        - In gameplay he felt he could effectively use the left stick to "soft juke", similar to changing directions quickly in NCAA 14
        - Reiterates that Road to Glory is not a cutscene-based story mode, more "gameplay-focused with light RPG elements"
        - Says RTG draws inspiration and elements from NCAA 06, 11, and 14
        - Expresses disappointment at the player editing options (no new info given to my knowledge), says he will be advocating for improvements to that to the devs
        - I think this has been reported on before, but he mentions EA used machine learning to generate faces for all the opted-in players, and that the game will take data from these faces to create new faces for generated recruits. Points to more varied faces
        - Reiterates dynasty recruiting feeling closer to pre-NCAA 14
        - Clarifies Wear and Tear as influencing attribute degradation more than causing injuries, most injuries under Wear and Tear happen only if you are reckless with your players. Freak/RNG injuries should occur at similar levels to Madden, according to devs.
        - Says he "thinks" you can turn Wear and Tear off
        Very much hoping his disappointment regarding editing is referring to ratings of NIL players only and not the recruits. If it does apply to recruits, I'm glad he's reaching out and giving input.

        Wear and Tear being optional is good news for me.

        Recruiting thing isn't a positive or negative to me. I know some feel strongly and enjoyed the more casual approach of 14, others enjoyed the more detailed pre-14 approach. I enjoyed both, I just enjoyed pursuing a recruit and trying to beat out other schools.

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        • Dawgfan1
          MVP
          • Jul 2013
          • 1202

          #5
          Re: Not the Expert speaks

          Originally posted by noarmsduck
          Very much hoping his disappointment regarding editing is referring to ratings of NIL players only and not the recruits. If it does apply to recruits, I'm glad he's reaching out and giving input.

          Wear and Tear being optional is good news for me.

          Recruiting thing isn't a positive or negative to me. I know some feel strongly and enjoyed the more casual approach of 14, others enjoyed the more detailed pre-14 approach. I enjoyed both, I just enjoyed pursuing a recruit and trying to beat out other schools.
          His disappointment with editing was more in regards to NIL players (can't edit attributes, can edit equipment) and not being able to create a prospect. He also said he was worried that this pointed to not being able to create a player outside of RTG, but it sounded like he had no info either way on that so I wouldn't take it as concrete.
          NCAA: Georgia Bulldogs and Clemson Tigers
          NFL: Atlanta Falcons
          NBA: Atlanta Hawks
          MLB: Atlanta Braves
          Soccer: Southampton and Atlanta United
          PSN: supersnivy48

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          • noarmsduck
            Pro
            • Mar 2010
            • 997

            #6
            Re: Not the Expert speaks

            Originally posted by Dawgfan1
            His disappointment with editing was more in regards to NIL players (can't edit attributes, can edit equipment) and not being able to create a prospect. He also said he was worried that this pointed to not being able to create a player outside of RTG, but it sounded like he had no info either way on that so I wouldn't take it as concrete.
            Gotcha. I appreciate the clarification, haven't been able to watch that segment yet.

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            • operationsport
              Rookie
              • Jun 2012
              • 71

              #7
              Re: Not the Expert speaks

              Originally posted by Dawgfan1
              His disappointment with editing was more in regards to NIL players (can't edit attributes, can edit equipment) and not being able to create a prospect. He also said he was worried that this pointed to not being able to create a player outside of RTG, but it sounded like he had no info either way on that so I wouldn't take it as concrete.
              These 55 rated nil players are gonna be pissed they can't edit themselves lol

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              • Ghost Of The Year
                T Bone
                • Mar 2014
                • 6420

                #8
                Re: Not the Expert speaks

                Originally posted by operationsport
                These 55 rated nil players are gonna be pissed they can't edit themselves lol
                Oh god. This gave me the sudden realization next year everyone will be rated 99 lol.
                Talk about things nobody cares.

                Screw Discord. Make OS Great Again.

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                • canes21
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 22945

                  #9
                  Re: Not the Expert speaks

                  If EA doesn't succumb to ratings pressure from the NFL players, they certainly won't with the CFB players that are even less important to the game.
                  “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


                  ― Plato

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                  • jerwoods
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 3002

                    #10
                    Re: Not the Expert speaks

                    Originally posted by canes21
                    If EA doesn't succumb to ratings pressure from the NFL players, they certainly won't with the CFB players that are even less important to the game.
                    oh but they do succumb to the pressure
                    u just have to talk to him on x

                    the madden ratings scale is 60-99 ex on qb and OL where is 50-99

                    when it needs to be 40-99 across the board

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                    • Ghost Of The Year
                      T Bone
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 6420

                      #11
                      Re: Not the Expert speaks

                      Originally posted by jerwoods
                      oh but they do succumb to the pressure
                      u just have to talk to him on x

                      the madden ratings scale is 60-99 ex on qb and OL where is 50-99

                      when it needs to be 40-99 across the board
                      Blame Ethan Albright lol.
                      Talk about things nobody cares.

                      Screw Discord. Make OS Great Again.

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                      • young22
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2017
                        • 2083

                        #12
                        Re: Not the Expert speaks

                        Originally posted by jerwoods
                        oh but they do succumb to the pressure
                        u just have to talk to him on x

                        the madden ratings scale is 60-99 ex on qb and OL where is 50-99

                        when it needs to be 40-99 across the board
                        FIFA does it a lot better. Average starters are in the 70s and there are only 8-10 90+ rated players in the entire game. Probably twice as many players in FIFA then we're getting in NCAA too, yet I bet there will be 8-10 players at 95+ and 50+ at 90+.

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                        • noarmsduck
                          Pro
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 997

                          #13
                          Re: Not the Expert speaks

                          Originally posted by canes21
                          If EA doesn't succumb to ratings pressure from the NFL players, they certainly won't with the CFB players that are even less important to the game.
                          The CFB players are much less important to the game, but they are also the reason it's been so long since we've had a game. Madden just has a deal with the NFLPA and that's it. The deal with CFB players is in its infancy and still a somewhat fluid situation.
                          Originally posted by young22
                          FIFA does it a lot better. Average starters are in the 70s and there are only 8-10 90+ rated players in the entire game. Probably twice as many players in FIFA then we're getting in NCAA too, yet I bet there will be 8-10 players at 95+ and 50+ at 90+.
                          The way Madden averages the overall ratings isn't ideal either. For example there can be a significant difference between two different players who are both 99 overall. IMO the game should only generate a 99 overall if the player is close to ideal across the board. Like prime Aaron Rodgers or current prime Patrick Mahomes. Like those guys have accuracy, awareness, mobility. But if you edit ratings on a random player and give a guy say just 90 for short medium and deep accuracy he can still be a 99 overall, and that shouldn't be the case.

                          99 on QBs should be guys who have like 94+ on every range throw, plus good carrying for a QB, plus good awareness. It's a little better at giving a scaled overall rating for DBs, not sure how it is for LBs and Dlinemen, but it's bad for WRs, RBs, and Olinemen.

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                          • TripleCrown9
                            Keep the Faith
                            • May 2010
                            • 23727

                            #14
                            Re: Not the Expert speaks

                            NTE had some Madden tweets today and he said that in his opinion, right now CFB25>Madden 25.
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                            • canes21
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 22945

                              #15
                              Re: Not the Expert speaks

                              Originally posted by TripleCrown9
                              NTE had some Madden tweets today and he said that in his opinion, right now CFB25>Madden 25.
                              I'm really enjoying the Madden beta right now, so if what he says is also how I feel, I'm going to straight love CFB25.
                              “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


                              ― Plato

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