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  • sherrane
    Pro
    • Apr 2013
    • 687

    #1

    CFP Rankings are broken

    Just completed the Conference Championship Week in my first dynasty (ULM). Despite making the Pac-12 a 14 team league, they did not have a Conference Championship Game.


    In the ACC, #18 NC State defeated #1 North Carolina 41-27 and was the #5 seed. #15 Liberty beat Jacksonville State 29-24 in the C-USA Championship Game and got the #4 seed. SBC has my #17 and undefeated ULM defeating Old Dominion 48-14. I dropped to #18 while Liberty rises from #15 to #4. #18 NC State only rises to #12 after defeating #1 North Carolina. This is very, very bad. I am heavily disappointed with this game.
  • Hshaw810
    Rookie
    • Aug 2017
    • 142

    #2
    Re: CFP Rankings are broken

    EA don’t want us playing dynasty mode

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    • letsgopens66
      Pro
      • Aug 2010
      • 846

      #3
      Re: CFP Rankings are broken

      What was NC St’s record vs Liberty’s? Playoff seeding isn’t overall rank
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      • FStewert21
        Rookie
        • Jul 2024
        • 23

        #4
        Re: CFP Rankings are broken

        Sounds like the seeding logic is correct as Liberty would be a top-4 rank champ and gets a bye. The ranking logic to get there doesn’t read well as you said.

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        • sherrane
          Pro
          • Apr 2013
          • 687

          #5
          Re: CFP Rankings are broken

          Originally posted by letsgopens66
          What was NC St’s record vs Liberty’s? Playoff seeding isn’t overall rank

          NC State was 10-3 (including their win over UNC in the ACCCG) and went 3-3 vs ranked teams. Liberty was 12-1 in C-USA and 0-0 vs ranked teams. I was 13-0 in the Sun Belt and finished below Liberty. As stated, we entered the CCG week as



          15 Liberty
          16 Penn State
          17 ULM (me)
          18 NC State


          Liberty was overrated at #15 and ULM should have been ranked higher based on playing in a tougher conference (Sun Belt raided C-USA recently) with the same record vs ranked teams.


          There is simply no way #18 doesn't jump #15 after they beat #1.

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          • letsgopens66
            Pro
            • Aug 2010
            • 846

            #6
            Re: CFP Rankings are broken

            Originally posted by sherrane
            NC State was 10-3 (including their win over UNC in the ACCCG) and went 3-3 vs ranked teams. Liberty was 12-1 in C-USA and 0-0 vs ranked teams. I was 13-0 in the Sun Belt and finished below Liberty. As stated, we entered the CCG week as



            15 Liberty
            16 Penn State
            17 ULM (me)
            18 NC State


            Liberty was overrated at #15 and ULM should have been ranked higher based on playing in a tougher conference (Sun Belt raided C-USA recently) with the same record vs ranked teams.


            There is simply no way #18 doesn't jump #15 after they beat #1.
            Yeah something seems buggy there especially if NC St jumped all the way to five…its like it didn’t process the ranking calc in the correct order
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            • HolyStroke3
              Pro
              • Sep 2011
              • 693

              #7
              Re: CFP Rankings are broken

              I’m in conference championship week and 7-5 Michigan is currently #6 in the CFP. I’m 11-1 Utah and am #14

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              • sherrane
                Pro
                • Apr 2013
                • 687

                #8
                Re: CFP Rankings are broken

                Originally posted by letsgopens66
                Yeah something seems buggy there especially if NC St jumped all the way to five…its like it didn’t process the ranking calc in the correct order

                NC State jumped to 12 because they were the ACC champions who entered the ACC Championship game #18, but they beat #1 North Carolina.


                Liberty jumped from #15 to #4 by edging unranked Jacksonville State by 4, but the top 4 conference champions get the top 4 spots.


                Last year #8 Alabama jumped to #4 after beating #1 Georgia in the SEC Championship Game. Teams that defeat #1 usually jump at least 4 spots and in real life, NC State jumps to at least 12 (which they did only because they were required to make the playoffs).

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                • sherrane
                  Pro
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 687

                  #9
                  Re: CFP Rankings are broken

                  Originally posted by HolyStroke3
                  I’m in conference championship week and 7-5 Michigan is currently #6 in the CFP. I’m 11-1 Utah and am #14

                  That is awful. The more I investigate, the more I think they have some calculation errors in the ratings because they make no sense.



                  In my dynasty #6 Oklahoma State beat #2 (11-1) Utah 35-30 in the Big 12 Championship Game. On one hand this is somewhat positive because in NCAA Football 14 and earlier, you would be #1 unless they were undefeated. It seems like the ratings might be tougher on a user team. I was undefeated at ULM and ranked 17, while 1 loss Liberty was 15. I played in a tougher conference as well and won at Auburn and Texas.

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                  • okayokay
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2024
                    • 56

                    #10
                    Re: CFP Rankings are broken

                    Originally posted by sherrane
                    In my dynasty #6 Oklahoma State beat #2 (11-1) Utah 35-30 in the Big 12 Championship Game. On one hand this is somewhat positive because in NCAA Football 14 and earlier, you would be #1 unless they were undefeated. It seems like the ratings might be tougher on a user team. I was undefeated at ULM and ranked 17, while 1 loss Liberty was 15. I played in a tougher conference as well and won at Auburn and Texas.
                    this could totally happen in real life. I've seen it before. I think you just want tohate on things that are good. This game is great

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                    • HolyStroke3
                      Pro
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 693

                      #11
                      Re: CFP Rankings are broken

                      Here are my seedings heading into the playoff:

                      1. Clemson 12-1 ACC Champ
                      2. Georgia 12-1 SEC Champ
                      3. Ohio State 11-2 Big Ten Champ
                      4. Utah 12-1 Big 12 Champ
                      5. Texas 10-3
                      6. Michigan 7-5
                      7. Texas A&M 10-2
                      8. Indiana 10-3
                      9. Alabama 8-4
                      10. West Virginia 10-3
                      11. Colorado 9-3
                      12. Boise State 10-3 Mtn West Champ

                      Notables left out:
                      UAB 12-1 (lost conference championship)
                      Texas State 11-2 Sun Belt Champs

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                      • GoDucks1224
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 2623

                        #12
                        CFP Rankings are broken

                        The ranking logic is absolutely terrible. I was ranked #3, 13-0 after winning the B10 championship, and 9-3 Michigan (Who I beat IN Michigan) was ranked #2 ahead of me. It’s terrible lol. (I was obviously a higher seed due to winning the conference, but they were ranked ahead of me lmao.) Dynasty is not super playable for me right now.

                        That being said, a lot of people (not saying you OP) misunderstand the way the playoff works. The 4 highest seeds are not guaranteed to go to the P4. They are guaranteed to the 4 highest ranked conference champs. So if Liberty is ranked #4 and a conference champ, they should be a higher seed. That being said, obviously, the logic is completely broken lol. There are also WAY too many upsets, which was a problem in NCAA 14 too.
                        Last edited by GoDucks1224; 07-19-2024, 10:40 PM.

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                        • HolyStroke3
                          Pro
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 693

                          #13
                          Re: CFP Rankings are broken

                          Something the rankings do have going for them is they definitely take into account the quality of opponents you lost to. It just seems to play too big of a role. 7-5 Michigan only had one “bad” loss. Based on the other results in my dynasty then getting in at 7-5 isn’t that bad, but it should have been as the 11 or 12 seed. Same situation with 8-4 Alabama.

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                          • GoDucks1224
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 2623

                            #14
                            Re: CFP Rankings are broken

                            Originally posted by HolyStroke3
                            Something the rankings do have going for them is they definitely take into account the quality of opponents you lost to. It just seems to play too big of a role. 7-5 Michigan only had one “bad” loss. Based on the other results in my dynasty then getting in at 7-5 isn’t that bad, but it should have been as the 11 or 12 seed. Same situation with 8-4 Alabama.


                            Definitely applies too much weight to Big 10 and SEC schools. I know those are the top conferences, but it’s pretty insane that we have these 8-4 SEC teams above 12-0 ACC teams and such.

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                            • HolyStroke3
                              Pro
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 693

                              #15
                              Re: CFP Rankings are broken

                              The bowl games on the bracket are incorrect. The bracket said I was playing in the Rose Bowl but I’m actually playing in the Sugar Bowl

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