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  • jcabler24
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    • Jul 2008
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    #1

    Getting better jobs as a small school OC?

    Anyone finding it difficult to get better jobs when starting off as a small school OC???

    Started off as OC for SHSU. Went 8-5,6-7,10-3 winning the conference and two bowl games in that time period. Somehow my coaching prestige is a D-

    I know its entirely different game as in years past, but in '14 with that sort of success I would have earned a high G5 or low P4 offer. Anyone else running into this? Wonder if its better just to start off as a HC at a lower school?
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  • bakerpa25
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    • Jul 2010
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    #2
    Re: Getting better jobs as a small school OC?

    I've been able to get a few job offers per season in my third season as Jax State OC but I'm holding out because I'd like to be the head coach of my current program. Has anyone been offered their own school's head coaching job? That seems like it would be cool to me and something that could realistically happen.

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    • Datninja619
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      • Jul 2012
      • 1918

      #3
      Re: Getting better jobs as a small school OC?

      This feature doesn't feel as robust as I hoped. Has anyone seen more than 4 school offers?

      I feel like you have to almost work your way up prestigious schools to get better offers. So if you start at a 1 star, just take whatever 2 Star is available HC, OC, or DC, then a 3 star, etc.

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      • raiderz4eva
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        • Dec 2013
        • 685

        #4
        Re: Getting better jobs as a small school OC?

        I started off as a Kennesaw state OC, hoping to get the HC job but Marshall offered me the HC position and that really intrigued me so I took that(Cole Pennington transferred to Kentucky though). The next 2 seasons in a row, Kennesaw state offered me the HC position


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        • Seanzino
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          • Sep 2022
          • 36

          #5
          Re: Getting better jobs as a small school OC?

          I did 1 season at JMU as OC (averaged like 500+ YPG, it was constant shootouts) and got a job offer to be Memphis HC, where I was fired after 2 seasons!

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          • AUChase
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            • Jul 2008
            • 19409

            #6
            Re: Getting better jobs as a small school OC?

            Originally posted by jcabler24
            Anyone finding it difficult to get better jobs when starting off as a small school OC???

            Started off as OC for SHSU. Went 8-5,6-7,10-3 winning the conference and two bowl games in that time period. Somehow my coaching prestige is a D-

            I know its entirely different game as in years past, but in '14 with that sort of success I would have earned a high G5 or low P4 offer. Anyone else running into this? Wonder if its better just to start off as a HC at a lower school?
            I started as the OC of Old Dominion.

            I found the results after my first 10-3 season sort of surprising.

            I had HC offers for Southern Miss, South Alabama, Tulsa, etc.

            I decided to skip on those thinking there might be a carousel similar to NCAA 14 but it was quite a bit different. I don't hate it because it allows you to know what job you're going to take and finish the bowl game. I feel like the timeline is probably more realistic this way.

            After a 2nd 10-3 season as ODU OC I took the HC gig at Memphis. I didn't really want to hang around for a 3rd year just to get similar offers again. I was kind of hoping for some larger schools to come calling for an OC so I could do that for a bit and then come back down and take G5 head coach job.

            I'm curious to see other people's experience here. So far it hasn't been exactly what I expected but also not bad. I think this is an area they can definitely improve on for the next game. I'm also wondering how much of the process feels watered down without real coaches. You have all these generic names being hired and fired and it doesn't really mean much. You're not exactly comparing your legacy as a coach to someone like Saban.

            Originally posted by bakerpa25
            I've been able to get a few job offers per season in my third season as Jax State OC but I'm holding out because I'd like to be the head coach of my current program. Has anyone been offered their own school's head coaching job? That seems like it would be cool to me and something that could realistically happen.
            This is something else surprising about the ODU gig I had.

            The HC left taking another job and a new coach retained me as the OC. I figured they would have at least gave me a sniff as an option.

            Hiring a new coach that retains both coordinators doesn't seem likely.
            Last edited by AUChase; 07-23-2024, 09:24 AM.

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            • rupe
              Rookie
              • Jun 2003
              • 368

              #7
              Re: Getting better jobs as a small school OC?

              As the OC for ball state on a 4 win team, I got offered the HC job for Marshall. I was going to take it but I wanted to see what my smooth QB recruit, Chocolate, was going to do for me...and I didn't feel like I deserved to offer to begin with. I'm glad I did, because Chocolate looks and feels like a lefthanded Josh Allen.

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              • sherrane
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                • Apr 2013
                • 691

                #8
                Re: Getting better jobs as a small school OC?

                I was OC at Louisiana-Monroe for 1 season. I went 13-0 and failed to make the playoffs. I had 3 job offers before the post season. Two were G5 head coach offers and I accepted being the OC at Michigan State. I expect to wrap up the playoffs in season 2 tonight and will enter the Coach Carousel because I want to become the Head Coach at a school that was not in 14.

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                • sherrane
                  Pro
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 691

                  #9
                  Re: Getting better jobs as a small school OC?

                  Originally posted by bakerpa25
                  I've been able to get a few job offers per season in my third season as Jax State OC but I'm holding out because I'd like to be the head coach of my current program. Has anyone been offered their own school's head coaching job? That seems like it would be cool to me and something that could realistically happen.

                  I'm in my second season, so it not happening to me yet is fairly meaningless. However, both ULM and Michigan State, where I've been the OC, the Broyles Award went to the DC instead of me. That leads me to believe they would be offered the head coaching job before me if I stayed. On one hand I see that as a positive because previous games seemed to go out of their way to give you a chance to succeed. This game might be more difficult to defeat unless I'm hitting bugs that will soon get patched.

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                  • Limasbravo
                    Pro
                    • Sep 2019
                    • 575

                    #10
                    Re: Getting better jobs as a small school OC?

                    Originally posted by bakerpa25
                    I've been able to get a few job offers per season in my third season as Jax State OC but I'm holding out because I'd like to be the head coach of my current program. Has anyone been offered their own school's head coaching job? That seems like it would be cool to me and something that could realistically happen.
                    Haven't tried it in this version, so I don't know if it's possible.

                    Could be that you are a victim of your own success. I did this in 14. I only recruited offensive players. Then I cut the good defensive players. So the head coach couldn't win and the defense was terrible but my offense was great, so they offered me the Head Coach position.
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                    • ASUBoy93
                      Pro
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 507

                      #11
                      Re: Getting better jobs as a small school OC?

                      I didn't start at a small school. I started as the DC for Kentucky with the intention of staying for 2 seasons then taking a HC gig somewhere at a lower end school.



                      Year one we went 7-5 and I got several offers for positions as both HC and DC at various schools but nothing for what I was looking for.



                      Year two, we go 11-2 and lose to Bama in the conference championship. But we get invited to the CFP anyways. My coach prestige is up to a B- at this time. We then win our 1st playoff game and then win in the quarter-finals. Our run ends in the semi-finals and I get offers from schools like Cincinnati and Rutgers and some really bad programs like Old Dominion and Kennesaw State. Don't like those really was hoping for a San Diego State or USF kind of program. Decide to stick it out for one more year.



                      Year three is bad. We go 7-5 again. Coach Carousel comes around. Zero offers. My coach prestige had dropped to a D- after a season where our defense still played really well? I'm concerned I may have messed up.



                      Also, has anyone noticed that if you have offers it just says "View Offers" but if you don't during any round it says "Coaching Carousel" and you no longer get offers that year? I've had that pop up on week 1 and week 3. Really frustrating.
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                      • Gocanes44
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                        • Nov 2004
                        • 555

                        #12
                        Re: Getting better jobs as a small school OC?

                        Coaching carousel is beyond broken.

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                        • JShowtime13
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                          • Jul 2024
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                          #13
                          Re: Getting better jobs as a small school OC?

                          I initially tried to be the HC at Liberty but decided to be OC at Texas … we will see

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