Poll logic is back…to terrible

[Gocanes44]

The patch to fix poll logic slightly made it better. The updated patch has returned it to its former un glory. 1-3 Louisville is back in the top 25 not to outdone by 2-2 Alabama ranked #4.

[MrArlingtonBeach]

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I've had a little quirkiness with the polls following the patch that addressed the issue, and just finished up another season following the last patch. Things have been typically OK in my Dynasty with only a few outliers here and there when it comes to teams' placement in the polls.

The main weirdness does happen earlier in the season, like you're saying here, where teams ranked highly early on lose a game or two, and the game still feels the teams are top-ranked due to their attributes or whatever. It could also be because the team lost to highly ranked opponents, so they won't drop as far.

I did have one very random occurrence of a 6-6 team a few seasons back (I forget the school) make it as far as the conference championship week as being shown a potential participant in the CFP bracket screen - the odd thing is they were unranked in all the polls!?! And this was before the most recent patch dropped. I was very nervous that the team was going to get into the playoffs and that the initial patch did nothing. However, things got sorted out in time for the CFP.

In several seasons since the first patch that addressed poll logic, plus an additional season I just wrapped up following the most recent patch, the worst record I've seen make the playoffs is 9-3.

So yeah, it does seem there are some quirks, especially early in the season. But from what I've seen, the quirks at least get sorted out as the year goes on.

[Ghost Of The Year]

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Since we can do Force Wins this year, I wish next year it would give us a list of twenty teams eligible for the playoffs and we can get an option of deciding which of those twelve go to the playoff. And even let us seed them. Strictly optional of course.

[Mets_All_The_Way]

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Bama rank #4 after 4 game is not any issue, especially if they lose to two rank team. I don't have any rankings in my Dynasty. U can't just look at record. What was Louisville ranking in the preseason. If they were in the top 10, then bring around 25 will be reasonable.

[bkrich83]

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It’s been hit or miss since the beginning for me. I haven’t noticed a change one way or the other


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[Locke888]

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Bama rank #4 after 4 game is not any issue, especially if they lose to two rank team. I don't have any rankings in my Dynasty. U can't just look at record. What was Louisville ranking in the preseason. If they were in the top 10, then bring around 25 will be reasonable.

Go back 50 years and find a team with a 2-2 record IRL ranked 4th or higher. It’s never happening.

2023 there were no teams in top 25 with 2 losses after 4 weeks

Found 2021 Clemson 2-2 ranked 25th

2019 Texas AM 2-2 ranked 23rd

2016 Mississippi 2-2 ranked 16th

I went back to 2014. They could write in the SW any team with 2 losses after 4 games cannot be ranked higher than 16th. How hard could it be?

[PeoplesChampGB]

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If anything, FSU getting snubbed last year makes me really not care about the polls anymore.

The polls are just politics and opinion at this point.

"Maybe a player got injured and that influenced it."

[Ghost Of The Year]

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The polls are just politics and opinion at this point.

And its been like this since the very first year of polls. Going back before WWII?

[DonkeyJote]

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Go back 50 years and find a team with a 2-2 record IRL ranked 4th or higher. It’s never happening.

2023 there were no teams in top 25 with 2 losses after 4 weeks

Found 2021 Clemson 2-2 ranked 25th

2019 Texas AM 2-2 ranked 23rd

2016 Mississippi 2-2 ranked 16th

I went back to 2014. They could write in the SW any team with 2 losses after 4 games cannot be ranked higher than 16th. How hard could it be?

There hasn't been a 2 loss team top 4 in even the final pre-Bowl game AP Poll since LSU, Oklahoma, and Georgia were #2-4 in December 2007 almost 17 years ago. And even that season, Georgia dropped all the way to #24 after starting 4-2 (after being preseason #13).

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[Mets_All_The_Way]

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Go back 50 years and find a team with a 2-2 record IRL ranked 4th or higher. It’s never happening.

2023 there were no teams in top 25 with 2 losses after 4 weeks

Found 2021 Clemson 2-2 ranked 25th

2019 Texas AM 2-2 ranked 23rd

2016 Mississippi 2-2 ranked 16th

I went back to 2014. They could write in the SW any team with 2 losses after 4 games cannot be ranked higher than 16th. How hard could it be?

It's can almost vary, how many team r unbeaten if he had no unbeat after week 4 if can make sense. AlI he gave us was Bama was 2-2 in ranked 4. Who did they lose. They could of lose to the 1 and 2 team in the poll. Without more information we can't tell, maybe 4 is a little high but they should still be top 10, depending on their preseason ranking.

So far in my Dynasty the poll r working the way the supposed. But I know some will have a problem with my poll, b/c I'm Georgia and I'm 3-1 but ranked 4, but just jump ahead of #5 Clemson who 4-0, who beat me week 1. However I just beat #3 Alabama on the road. I was #7 going into that game, I jumping 3 spot, while Clemson remain in their spot. I beat a top 3 team on the road, that why I feel they put me in front of Clemson, even thou they beat me head to head, plus it was neutral site, so Clemson hasn't had a true road win.

[PPerfect_CJ]

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Bama rank #4 after 4 game is not any issue, especially if they lose to two rank team. I don't have any rankings in my Dynasty. U can't just look at record. What was Louisville ranking in the preseason. If they were in the top 10, then bring around 25 will be reasonable.

LOL! No. I realize that they're Alabama and are treated differently, but a 2-2 team should not be #4, no matter who they beat or lost to. That's ridiculous. This seriously needs fixed.

[MrArlingtonBeach]

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I'm in Week 4 of my offline Dynasty in 2027, and the first team to show up on the media poll with 1 loss is Clemson, who fell from No. 4 to No. 10 after losing to Notre Dame. The Irish were ranked 9th and now moved up to the No. 4 spot.

On the coaches poll, the first 1-loss team is Texas at No. 9.

There are no 2-loss teams on either poll.

So maybe there are some oddities here and there, but more often than not, I'm not seeing any major issues.

[jello1717]

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I'm in Week 4 of my offline Dynasty in 2027, and the first team to show up on the media poll with 1 loss is Clemson, who fell from No. 4 to No. 10 after losing to Notre Dame. The Irish were ranked 9th and now moved up to the No. 4 spot.

On the coaches poll, the first 1-loss team is Texas at No. 9.

There are no 2-loss teams on either poll.

So maybe there are some oddities here and there, but more often than not, I'm not seeing any major issues.

I agree with this. The sim engine still has issues and requires forcing a few wins here and there, but as for the teams and their records and their opponents, I feel the game does a decent job of ranking them about where they should be.

[Locke888]

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I don’t have time but what was the records of G5 vs P5 last year?

Or G5 vs top 25 last 10 years

The more data the better

[bkrich83]

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I don’t have time but what was the records of G5 vs P5 last year?

Or G5 vs top 25 last 10 years

The more data the better

According to Copilot G5 schools were 18-93 vs. P5 schools last sesaon.