Game Flow

[zpq12]

I’ve noticed that I seem to be playing a lot of similar games. I’m wondering if others are having a similar experience or it’s just my play style or team or the teams against which I’m playing.

I can keep up with a significantly better team through the first half typically. The CPU offense really doesn’t have explosive plays at all, I get a more than fair share of sacks and often the CPU QB - I’ve dealt with probably 78 through 92 rating - will throw well less than 50% early on. It’s not unusual to have them start 0-4 or 1-6. The CPU offense invariably starts rather run heavy and goes run, run, incomplete pass into a few first half punts. Oregon, Ohio State, North Carolina, Penn State, Michigan, USC and others. Some of those are run first anyhow, but I’m selling out for the run at times. We’re talking less than or around 100 yards on offense often.

FWIW, I’m not typically doing much on offense, but I can eke out like a 10-7 lead or something similar.

11min quarters, AA with my version of A&S sliders.

This isn’t a dig at the game, just something I’m noticing. Wondering if it’s how the CPU logic works or the reasons above. Maybe that’s how it should be? I’m stuck on wanting Oregon for example to be up 21-3 at the half every so often.

[IBallAllday]

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Not really my experience for most teams. Only one I can remember is, I just played Penn State they ran a lot until they got down then started throwing until they got up. I play on heisman fwiw so maybe that's the difference idk

[J.hunt1376]

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I have noticed that, at least in the first half, the CPU is much more run heavy. The CPU may be like 1/4 throwing; meanwhile, I'm running the RnS and like at 20 pass attempts before halftime. Ha.

[Feros Ferio 7]

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Definitely seeing run heavy from teams early but the results vary from game to game for me on whether they're successful or not. Played 3 games last night with 3 different teams I controlled and 3 different opponents. Played the first 2 games on AA and third on Heisman. All 3 games played drastically different than the other.

For whatever that is worth.

Oh also played using 3 different offensive playbooks and scheme. Not sure if you are using one playbook or different ones but I try to change mine up by year per dynasty.


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[jello1717]

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I’ve noticed that I seem to be playing a lot of similar games. I’m wondering if others are having a similar experience or it’s just my play style or team or the teams against which I’m playing.



I can keep up with a significantly better team through the first half typically. The CPU offense really doesn’t have explosive plays at all, I get a more than fair share of sacks and often the CPU QB - I’ve dealt with probably 78 through 92 rating - will throw well less than 50% early on. It’s not unusual to have them start 0-4 or 1-6. The CPU offense invariably starts rather run heavy and goes run, run, incomplete pass into a few first half punts. Oregon, Ohio State, North Carolina, Penn State, Michigan, USC and others. Some of those are run first anyhow, but I’m selling out for the run at times. We’re talking less than or around 100 yards on offense often.



FWIW, I’m not typically doing much on offense, but I can eke out like a 10-7 lead or something similar.



11min quarters, AA with my version of A&S sliders.



This isn’t a dig at the game, just something I’m noticing. Wondering if it’s how the CPU logic works or the reasons above. Maybe that’s how it should be? I’m stuck on wanting Oregon for example to be up 21-3 at the half every so often.

This hasn’t been anything near my experience so far (and my games have been varied enough that I certainly wouldn’t say there’s a pattern). I haven’t played those powerhouse teams you mention (I’m ODU) but I’ve played Virginia Tech a few times and UCF a couple. Maybe one of those games I kept it close early, but they usually work me over pretty well, and pretty early on I know I’m in for a rough time.

Against teams on my level it’s a different story and I can handle them much better (just beat a 80 OVR South Alabama 15-10 compared to the 52 UCF (85 OVR) hung on me.

[MattyIce]

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Can’t say I’ve seen too much of one thing. I’ve been in tight low scoring games, I’ve been up 21-0 after 1 Q, and I’ve also been down 21-0 after a Q. I had a play now game last week where I got up 21-3 on Miami and ended up losing like 30-28 or something. It’s definitely varied game-to-game for me


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[bayers3]

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I feel like every game just has a period of 1-2 possessions by the CPU where it seems scripted, like you just cannot stop them and they will score. The only thing I can do is try and weather it, extend their drive as long as possible, and either they will score (as planned) or I'll get lucky and there will be an INT or a fumble.

I play a ton of Cover 4 out of a 3-3-5 formation, just totally comfortable doing my best against run plays and leaving short stuff underneath. Sometimes teams that couldn't score against a stiff breeze suddenly pick me apart for a 12+ play 75 yard drive that looks like my defenders are just standing still (many are).

[BadAssHskr]

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All I'm really noticing is, I seem to be pretty competitive at the game onset, but be it whatever, as the game progresses, I just end up completely getting housed.

Not sure if the AI is making me pay for mistakes, and bad decisions. I know every game I seem to screw something up offensively and generally leads to the CPU taking advantage of me, and making me pay for the rest of the game.

In my single person OD (using Nebraska), I won my first 4 games, in very competitive games, but have proceeded to lose my last 6.

I would like to say, my game play, as far as how the game is playing overall, never really seemed to change for me, but not sure what it is, things just seem to have gotten much more complicated for me as my season has gone on.

[Feros Ferio 7]

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I feel like every game just has a period of 1-2 possessions by the CPU where it seems scripted, like you just cannot stop them and they will score. The only thing I can do is try and weather it, extend their drive as long as possible, and either they will score (as planned) or I'll get lucky and there will be an INT or a fumble.



I play a ton of Cover 4 out of a 3-3-5 formation, just totally comfortable doing my best against run plays and leaving short stuff underneath. Sometimes teams that couldn't score against a stiff breeze suddenly pick me apart for a 12+ play 75 yard drive that looks like my defenders are just standing still (many are).

So not scripted then?

Also the longer you play one formation and one coverage the more likely your opponent will pick up on that and start to exploit that.


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[zpq12]

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So not scripted then?

Also the longer you play one formation and one coverage the more likely your opponent will pick up on that and start to exploit that.


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I’m no longer convinced that the CPU exploits anything, at least on AA with any slider sets I’ve had.

While I don’t think the game “cheats” in any manner, after way too many games I do feel like the outcomes have a pretty low variance.

I’ve been a bit frustrated that I can’t seem to coax the CPU elite teams into really dominating me (certainly in the first half, but at this point really ever) in a way that doesn’t just involve very long passing touchdowns. I can easily give those up, but I’ve been wanting the CPU to pick me apart a bit more with good QBs and offenses.

I know it’s unpopular to suggest that the CPU has a comeback code, but I think it goes both ways. Most games seem to wind up within a touchdown. It could be my play style changing throughout the game, and it could be that Cover 4 and Cover 3 Match are cheat codes, but the CPU offense seems reluctant to pick me apart, even when I’m baiting it to do so. The CPU defense seems to let up in the second half when I’m down. I just finished 4 games games against 90+ teams where we traded a few points in the first half, they scored before the half, went up 2-3 scores and I subsequently came back easily with a few long passes and an ineffective CPU offense.

Not so much a complaint as it is an observation that this is ultimately a game based on the game and 56-10 isn’t that fun from either side and I think the game is programmed to avoid that outcome.

[Feros Ferio 7]

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I’m no longer convinced that the CPU exploits anything, at least on AA with any slider sets I’ve had.



While I don’t think the game “cheats” in any manner, after way too many games I do feel like the outcomes have a pretty low variance.



I’ve been a bit frustrated that I can’t seem to coax the CPU elite teams into really dominating me (certainly in the first half, but at this point really ever) in a way that doesn’t just involve very long passing touchdowns. I can easily give those up, but I’ve been wanting the CPU to pick me apart a bit more with good QBs and offenses.



I know it’s unpopular to suggest that the CPU has a comeback code, but I think it goes both ways. Most games seem to wind up within a touchdown. It could be my play style changing throughout the game, and it could be that Cover 4 and Cover 3 Match are cheat codes, but the CPU offense seems reluctant to pick me apart, even when I’m baiting it to do so. The CPU defense seems to let up in the second half when I’m down. I just finished 4 games games against 90+ teams where we traded a few points in the first half, they scored before the half, went up 2-3 scores and I subsequently came back easily with a few long passes and an ineffective CPU offense.



Not so much a complaint as it is an observation that this is ultimately a game based on the game and 56-10 isn’t that fun from either side and I think the game is programmed to avoid that outcome.

I'd suggest getting off AA.


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[zpq12]

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I'd suggest getting off AA.


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Wasn't really my intent to reply to you. I meant to reply to the thread in general.

No thanks. Heisman has been misery every time I've attempted it. I'll just trade my close wins and losses for misery and frustration. I want to play football, not the game.

[jello1717]

Game Flow

Wasn't really my intent to reply to you. I meant to reply to the thread in general.

No thanks. Heisman has been misery every time I've attempted it. I'll just trade my close wins and losses for misery and frustration. I want to play football, not the game.

He meant try varsity, not Heisman (I think).

[Feros Ferio 7]

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He meant try varsity, not Heisman (I think).

Nope. Meant Heisman.

I've played majority of my games on it. If I play on AA against the pc I don't have to think about what I'm doing.


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[Jagsfan24]

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It's funny that on Madden we been complaining about the cpu passing too much but in this game (which is made by EA) they sometimes run too much. I will say I like seeing the cpu run a lot IF they are tearing up my defense or that's their normal style. But there's moments where they are struggling with the run and yet still run, and then I end up controlling the LoS like crazy

The second half is always iffy, sometimes I continue to roll and shut the cpu down and other times they will turn into the Chiefs offense where no matter what I call they throw all over me.