League wide parity a few years into dynasty?

[_-King-_]

Anyone that's 5+ years into dynasty, have you noticed a sort of smoothing of team ratings across the league. Like all 134 teams are basically all rated between 82-88.

[NoleFan]

Re: League wide parity a few years into dynasty?

Haven’t really noticed save for looking at how my team compares to the rest of the Sun Belt. With regard to that, for the last few seasons I’ve routinely had the highest rated team by a couple pts OVR.


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[moTIGS]

Re: League wide parity a few years into dynasty?

I'm only in my fourth year of my current dynasty, but here's how the Mountain West looks right now (my conference). Based on what I've seen in recruiting, I don't anticipate much movement from these team overalls in the next few years:

Air Force: 74
Boise State: 82
Colorado State: 75
Fresno State: 83
Hawaii: 75
Nevada: 80
New Mexico: 79
San Diego State: 80
San Jose State: 77
UNLV (me): 89
Utah State: 77
Wyoming: 81

Other conferences (ranges):

ACC: 79-89
Big 10: 80-91
Big 12: 80-85
AAC: 74-83
C-USA: 71-80
Independent: 77-89
MAC: 71-79
PAC 12: 80-85
SEC: 81-90
Sun Belt: 71-79

[NoleFan]

Re: League wide parity a few years into dynasty?

So the Sun Belt, for example, in 2030 ranges from 74 (UL Monroe) to 86 (JMU)


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[jello1717]

Re: League wide parity a few years into dynasty?

So the Sun Belt, for example, in 2030 ranges from 74 (UL Monroe) to 86 (JMU)


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You can’t count JMU though as users should always build stronger teams than the CPU. What’s the best CPU team in the Fun Belt?

[NoleFan]

Re: League wide parity a few years into dynasty?

You can’t count JMU though as users should always build stronger teams than the CPU. What’s the best CPU team in the Fun Belt?

There several of us within 1 OVR point of each other. I’m only 1 OVR better than the 2nd best team…2 at the most. When I fire it back up I’ll post the whole run down.


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[NoleFan]

Re: League wide parity a few years into dynasty?

There several of us within 1 OVR point of each other. I’m only 1 OVR better than the 2nd best team…2 at the most. When I fire it back up I’ll post the whole run down.


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Sun Belt | 2030

74 ULM
78 ODU
79 Georgia Southern
79 South Alabama
80 Texas State
80 Troy
81 App State
81 Coastal Carolina
82 Arkansas State
83 Georgia State
83 Southern Miss
84 Louisiana
84 Marshall
86 JMU


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[bDoddleS]

Re: League wide parity a few years into dynasty?

I've just completed 10 seasons of my starting dynasty, so at week 1 of 2034.

If I take the highest Team OVR/Lowest NON-User teams out and kinda look in the middle of the ratings here is what I have

ACC
88 (Clemson) /79 (Virginia)
8 teams at 84-85 OVR

AAC
82 (Tulane) / 73 (Charlotte)
8 teams between 78-80 OVR

Big 12
89 (Texas) / 80 (BYU)
6 teams between 84-86 OVR

Big 10
90 (Ohio State) / 80 (Purdue)
9 teams between 81-84 OVR

C-USA
78 (WKY) / 71 (Kennesaw)
5 teams at 75-76 OVR

MAC
83 (UTSA) / 73 (Buffalo)
8 teams at 74-75 OVR

MWC
81 (Boise St) / 74 (Air Force)
4 teams at 74-75 OVR

Pac-12
88 (Oregon) / 80 (Wash St)
6 teams at 84-85 OVR

SEC
90 (Georgia) / 81 (Vandy + 2 more)
4 teams at 84-85 OVR

Sun Belt
81 (App St) / 74 (Old Dominion)
7 teams between 75-77

So 10 seasons into there's a lot of parody in the middle of most conferences, only really the MWC & SEC have some spread in OVR, every other conference has the large middle tier.

Not sure how this compares to the default 2024 rosters but overall 10 years in I don't see much, if any outliers when you have a elite user school getting most 5*/4* recruits they want, it lowers what 5*'s the other top schools can get.

[GoDucks1224]

Re: League wide parity a few years into dynasty?

I've definitely noticed it. I think it is what is contributing to 5 loss teams making the playoff, and so many upsets, later in dynasty. The elite teams get worse, and the bad teams get better. So you end up meeting in the middle. It's particularly bad with P4 conferences, where you end up with all of them looking like this years B12.

[ZekeRoberts]

Re: League wide parity a few years into dynasty?

I'm starting year 6 and just made a bunch of custom conference movements to go promotion/relegation, so I looked through all the ratings of teams a lot over the last few minutes and can say that the top few teams are around 90 and the bottom few teams are around 72. Power conferences range 81-88 for the majority of teams and other conferences range from like 75-84 for the most part (all conferences have 12 teams in my setup).

What I feel like I've noticed more than team parity is the rosters changing from the default. That is specifically why I decide to extend my "starter" dynasty instead of starting over with promotion/relegation. In year 6, all default roster players should be gone, and I feel like every team has at least an 80 OVR player in every spot in the offensive line (and most positions, to be honest). I know because I scout each team before I play them and it's been like that for the last two seasons. Almost every team has a 96-99 SPD guy somewhere on offense and a majority of DBs look like they have the "House Call" ability. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I think that differs significantly from the base (2024) roster. But, I figure I'm not the type to go through and try to edit a bunch of players to change this (can we even do that?) so I'm just assuming at this point that all 134 teams have the same recruiting network and transfer portal and game on, even if all teams are more "stacked." I'll lean into tilting the sliders down instead of up if necessary. Sorry if this seems off-topic but that is what I've noticed the most after 5 seasons of in-depth dynasty.

[_-King-_]

Re: League wide parity a few years into dynasty?

I'm starting year 6 and just made a bunch of custom conference movements to go promotion/relegation, so I looked through all the ratings of teams a lot over the last few minutes and can say that the top few teams are around 90 and the bottom few teams are around 72. Power conferences range 81-88 for the majority of teams and other conferences range from like 75-84 for the most part (all conferences have 12 teams in my setup).

What I feel like I've noticed more than team parity is the rosters changing from the default. That is specifically why I decide to extend my "starter" dynasty instead of starting over with promotion/relegation. In year 6, all default roster players should be gone, and I feel like every team has at least an 80 OVR player in every spot in the offensive line (and most positions, to be honest). I know because I scout each team before I play them and it's been like that for the last two seasons. Almost every team has a 96-99 SPD guy somewhere on offense and a majority of DBs look like they have the "House Call" ability. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I think that differs significantly from the base (2024) roster. But, I figure I'm not the type to go through and try to edit a bunch of players to change this (can we even do that?) so I'm just assuming at this point that all 134 teams have the same recruiting network and transfer portal and game on, even if all teams are more "stacked." I'll lean into tilting the sliders down instead of up if necessary. Sorry if this seems off-topic but that is what I've noticed the most after 5 seasons of in-depth dynasty.

I noticed something similar where it seems like recruiting and player progression really smooth out the ratings almost no matter what.

Like in my first dynasty I absolutely butchered everything. Going 1-11 and only landing like 11 recruits. Thought I was doomed and I had some huge holes in my roster where my best players at some positions were mid 60s. Fast forward through the off season and some guys made gigantic leaps to now be at least 80-85 in every position.

[_-King-_]

Re: League wide parity a few years into dynasty?

I've just completed 10 seasons of my starting dynasty, so at week 1 of 2034.

If I take the highest Team OVR/Lowest NON-User teams out and kinda look in the middle of the ratings here is what I have

ACC
88 (Clemson) /79 (Virginia)
8 teams at 84-85 OVR

AAC
82 (Tulane) / 73 (Charlotte)
8 teams between 78-80 OVR

Big 12
89 (Texas) / 80 (BYU)
6 teams between 84-86 OVR

Big 10
90 (Ohio State) / 80 (Purdue)
9 teams between 81-84 OVR

C-USA
78 (WKY) / 71 (Kennesaw)
5 teams at 75-76 OVR

MAC
83 (UTSA) / 73 (Buffalo)
8 teams at 74-75 OVR

MWC
81 (Boise St) / 74 (Air Force)
4 teams at 74-75 OVR

Pac-12
88 (Oregon) / 80 (Wash St)
6 teams at 84-85 OVR

SEC
90 (Georgia) / 81 (Vandy + 2 more)
4 teams at 84-85 OVR

Sun Belt
81 (App St) / 74 (Old Dominion)
7 teams between 75-77

So 10 seasons into there's a lot of parody in the middle of most conferences, only really the MWC & SEC have some spread in OVR, every other conference has the large middle tier.

Not sure how this compares to the default 2024 rosters but overall 10 years in I don't see much, if any outliers when you have a elite user school getting most 5*/4* recruits they want, it lowers what 5*'s the other top schools can get.

Looking at this and some of the other numbers posted in here (thanks to everyone for doing that legwork by the way!), it does kinda seem in line with what I suspected.

I exaggerated a bit to say there's full 134 team parity, but it's a lot closer than it should be. The top of the G5 seem to get pretty close to the middle of P4, and the top of the P4 aren't nearly separated enough to be as dominant as they should.

It's partially a symptom of the ratings being too close to begin with. The worst teams should probably be rated in the high 50s-60s. That and the progression system seems to treat this more like a 134 team Madden where everyone ends up close to an even playing field in terms of recruiting and development.

I'll leave the disclaimer that this is nitpicking as I've put 200+ hrs in and this is some of the most fun I've ever had gaming, but this definitely is an area I'd like to see improvement on in the future.

[bDoddleS]

Re: League wide parity a few years into dynasty?

Looking at this and some of the other numbers posted in here (thanks to everyone for doing that legwork by the way!), it does kinda seem in line with what I suspected.

I exaggerated a bit to say there's full 134 team parity, but it's a lot closer than it should be. The top of the G5 seem to get pretty close to the middle of P4, and the top of the P4 aren't nearly separated enough to be as dominant as they should.

It's partially a symptom of the ratings being too close to begin with. The worst teams should probably be rated in the high 50s-60s. That and the progression system seems to treat this more like a 134 team Madden where everyone ends up close to an even playing field in terms of recruiting and development.

I'll leave the disclaimer that this is nitpicking as I've put 200+ hrs in and this is some of the most fun I've ever had gaming, but this definitely is an area I'd like to see improvement on in the future.

Also could be because I think some of the calculations for team OVR isn't that accurate.

I've had my teams with like 3-4 80+ OVR players be rated at a 80 OVR team. I've also played similarly rated teams at home and one plays much harder and their players are more highly rated than the previous team I've played.

So IMO using team OVR's might not be the most accurate in terms of seeing which teams are better than others.

One thing I'm also interested to research more is if momentum is a thing in dynasty. I've seen teams get 1 big win then go on a run and make the semifinals or finals at a 84 OVR, while beating multiple 88< higher teams.