Full Franchise game video

[l8knight1]

Sportsgamergg posted a full franchise game video Utah/NY Rangers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_ilAx1B5cQ

[adayinthelife]

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Looks a little better than the Hughes brothers video from earlier, but uh, yeah... Still looks like janky-as-hell EA NHL from the last two decades.

Need to get it in my hands, but my god it's stale.

[bwiggy33]

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It seems on default that the handy one timer addition to the game is OP from the blue line. I guess not just star defenseman rip them. Casey Fitzgerald rips a one timer top shelf which gave him 3 goals on the season. I had never actually heard of him so I was like let's hockeydb him. He has 13 goals total in his pro career that started in 2019. None of them were scored in the NHL. Just shows that the ratings aren't drastic enough. Annoying.

[tariq071]

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Based that this was, actually, on default sliders:

Positive:
- game appears slower, not to slow though
- It looks like they removed that CPU sneeze at you and you stumble.
- Goalies play looks little bit more natural
- Gameplay wise looks better than 24. But that was almost impossible not to accomplish.

Negative:
- Where is neutral zone trapping from 23? CPU skates by way to easy.
- Still North -South, still waiting for some sort of East-West
- Your CPU defenders still clueless when defending.
- CPU defending still same, reacting on your stick moves, although i have seen less of them skating full speed with arm and stick extended, while waving stick(physically impossible IRL)
- Last goal is standard cheese , I can be almost certain that CPU will score 10 out of 10 in situations like that.Sergachev is great player but no sniper.

Overall, not worth full price, wait for sale, pending seeing more franchise gameplay from other streamers/Youtuber. Personally don't care about online.
Back to 23 and 20 for me , i guess.

[MizzouRah]

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It seems on default that the handy one timer addition to the game is OP from the blue line. I guess not just star defenseman rip them. Casey Fitzgerald rips a one timer top shelf which gave him 3 goals on the season. I had never actually heard of him so I was like let's hockeydb him. He has 13 goals total in his pro career that started in 2019. None of them were scored in the NHL. Just shows that the ratings aren't drastic enough. Annoying.

Probably on a low difficulty.

[MiracleMet718]

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It seems on default that the handy one timer addition to the game is OP from the blue line. I guess not just star defenseman rip them. Casey Fitzgerald rips a one timer top shelf which gave him 3 goals on the season. I had never actually heard of him so I was like let's hockeydb him. He has 13 goals total in his pro career that started in 2019. None of them were scored in the NHL. Just shows that the ratings aren't drastic enough. Annoying.

Ratings have been an issue since NHL 15. They put in the “attribute impact” slider or whatever it’s called to differentiate, but it doesn’t do much since NHL players are around the same in most categories unless it’s the star players.

Fitzgerald is a decent d-man, but the shot him and Miller scored on shouldn’t be going in that frequently. I like that one timers work, but the goalie positioning should be better. Will have to mess around with sliders yet again.

Also the one thing I wish is that this game would resemble skating once again. While the turning graphics are much better, the movement has taken a turn for the worse since they’ve moved to the new engine. Too many stop/starts instead of short turns or constant movement. If you watch or play hockey, you’ll know guys don’t just stop and start all the time. It’s mostly on the puck that it happens in this game but it makes it look weird. At least the AI looks greatly improved though.

[KvltBear]

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The skating and collision animations look better. Still a little too much start/stop stuff. CPU defense looks much more coherent and better in my opinion. CPU offense looks...worse than 24 I think. Still doing that terrible chip in dump that they can't retrieve 99% of the time. Just constantly entering the zone and turning the puck over by skating into a defender because they can't/won't set anything up. I don't see them doing any of that new feature they added. No edgework, no cycling, no behind the net, no using the boards, just force everything to the slot immediately and try to beat the defender 1v1.

Someone else uploaded a video as them as the Leafs vs the CPU Habs and, on default 3 min periods, the CPU got 2 shots on goal. Literally once in the entire game did they attempt to do something besides skate into the zone and turn it over immediately via trying to beat the defender solo. I am truly confused. From the trailer I got the impression we'd be seeing much more interesting and vibrant offensive zone play by the AI and yet it looks exactly the same out of the box as 24. How are we decades into hockey games and the CPU can't dump and retrieve the puck properly? Why can't the CPU use the new feature they added into the game?

At the very least I have at least not seen an own goal yet by a CPU d-man trying to clear the crease. Unfortunately those horrid goal celebrations are back...

[phillyfan23]

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The skating and collision animations look better. Still a little too much start/stop stuff. CPU defense looks much more coherent and better in my opinion. CPU offense looks...worse than 24 I think. Still doing that terrible chip in dump that they can't retrieve 99% of the time. Just constantly entering the zone and turning the puck over by skating into a defender because they can't/won't set anything up. I don't see them doing any of that new feature they added. No edgework, no cycling, no behind the net, no using the boards, just force everything to the slot immediately and try to beat the defender 1v1.

Someone else uploaded a video as them as the Leafs vs the CPU Habs and, on default 3 min periods, the CPU got 2 shots on goal. Literally once in the entire game did they attempt to do something besides skate into the zone and turn it over immediately via trying to beat the defender solo. I am truly confused. From the trailer I got the impression we'd be seeing much more interesting and vibrant offensive zone play by the AI and yet it looks exactly the same out of the box as 24. How are we decades into hockey games and the CPU can't dump and retrieve the puck properly? Why can't the CPU use the new feature they added into the game?

At the very least I have at least not seen an own goal yet by a CPU d-man trying to clear the crease. Unfortunately those horrid goal celebrations are back...

To get cpu to dump and chase it is a must to edit their team strategies. Set thendunp slider high for some lines and have the proper forecheck for the cpu teams. It takes work to edit each team strategy especially if you want to edit according to real nhl team strategies, but it is very worth the time to do it.

You will feel a real difference between the teams.

[scagwi]

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Hmm

To me this doesn't look like the deep dive videos and looks basically exactly like NHL 24

Not sure I see the need to buy this

[KvltBear]

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To get cpu to dump and chase it is a must to edit their team strategies. Set thendunp slider high for some lines and have the proper forecheck for the cpu teams. It takes work to edit each team strategy especially if you want to edit according to real nhl team strategies, but it is very worth the time to do it.

You will feel a real difference between the teams.

We can edit strategies all we want but the problem is the CPU is programmed to only dump the puck in one specific way. The default method should be a hard rim around the boards for the opposite winger to retrieve as they rush the zone and to create confusion and separation of the d-men. The chip in should be more situational and even then chip to the opposite corner rather than same side. Another problem I had in 24 was even if you could create a board battle after the chip-in the offense CPU was abysmal at foot passing the puck to a favorable side of the scrum and it'd be a turnover anyway. Like they would just constantly pass it to the wrong side every time.

[phillyfan23]

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Yes you are right the cpu dumps it one way ( the slow fly dump) but with strategies and slider changes to make bouncing pucks harder to control along with puck control reduction, dump and chase becomes viable for both me and the cpu using just the fly dump.

Cpu gets a lot of scoring chances via dump ins when I play using the sliders I use. A faster speed setting and higher puck control will help the dmen in getting out with the puck, rendering dump ins nearly useless, at least from my experience in slider testing.

CPU Dump ins are not perfect like you said, but I can live with them for sure as the cpu scores consistently enough goals using the dump and chase.

[blaziruku]

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Also an issue we had before that wasn't resolved. When the AI is behind, they instantly stop playing real hockey in the third. Oh, we're on the PK? It's basically 6 on 5 let's pass it out and exit. And it's EASY, because your defensive ai isn't covering players so they just... pass out the puck like you aren't on the PP at all.

And also, at the very end, you can see them pull their goalie.... and just let a player saunter up the ice instead of idk, TRYING TO STOP HIM.

The one timer minigame seems to break goalies as 2 early goals just made the goalie randomly slide across leaving MASSIVE OPEN GAPS in the net. Wow. I know EA hates goalies but that's a bit egregious....

[KvltBear]

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Well I watched someone stream HUT games or whatever against the CPU earlier, they played multiple games and combined with the other videos I've seen I think it's safe to say the default out of the box AI is just incapable of properly playing the game. Getting like 2-4 SOG, outscored 8-1, not using the new skating features, something just doesn't seem right.

Is anyone getting this early? I'm kind of interested how this plays with slider adjustments. If the AI will actually utilize these new tools with different settings and sliders that'd bring some hope back.

[Cycloniac]

Re: Full Franchise game video

Well I watched someone stream HUT games or whatever against the CPU earlier, they played multiple games and combined with the other videos I've seen I think it's safe to say the default out of the box AI is just incapable of properly playing the game. Getting like 2-4 SOG, outscored 8-1, not using the new skating features, something just doesn't seem right.

Is anyone getting this early? I'm kind of interested how this plays with slider adjustments. If the AI will actually utilize these new tools with different settings and sliders that'd bring some hope back.

I'm planning to do the 10 hour trial