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  • illp8989
    Rookie
    • Jul 2023
    • 45

    #181
    Re: EA SPORTS FC25 OS Community Sliders

    Originally posted by Dummett
    Regarding the link I posted (won't let me directly reply on mob), it's made for Manual play only, hence questionable figures. I just had a match with it and whilst pass speed is a tad high, what I really got from it is the CPU behaviour - tackle aggression 99, buildup speed 25, cross frequency 75 + dribble & skill move at 35 worked absolute wonders. I first thought the low build up speed would cause it to be a bit of a bore fest but it was far from it. Playing Villa and they were passing the ball round nicely inside their half, but once they advanced they looked incredibly immersive with interlinking play/shots from distance/multiple crosses. I'm going out these CPU sliders combined with Matt's (but with the higher speed and acceleration + discrepancies for manual play) and will update accordingly. First summary is if testing, 100% mess about with CPU behaviour, it could be a game changer this year...
    If your enjoying it cool but when i see stuff like 55 in length knowing how much trough the years and specially this year whit player kinda stuck in position that much of a gap in length is kinda crazy i rather stick whit the OS and Matt10 sliders and get my personal tweak cause we can all have a different view of how football is played but here it’s a team of guy working on the sliders to get the best we can whit what we have but again to each is own that’s the beauty of offline play!!

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    • Bombik
      Rookie
      • Sep 2024
      • 12

      #182
      Re: EA SPORTS FC25 OS Community Sliders

      Thank you for your work! With Matt sliders game feels better!
      But Sliders can't resolve my biggest problem. Players don't scan space arount they. I had situations in counter attacks for example, when player has empty flank, but he stop and thats all. Seems like that they are very strongly attached to the sectors of their roles. And i meet it not only in fast attacks - in positioning attack offen the same. And i am not sure that it is possible to fix by sliders

      And i started play with 6 mins half, but with Matt sliders 8 mins half feels much better

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      • Dummett
        Rookie
        • Oct 2021
        • 36

        #183
        Re: EA SPORTS FC25 OS Community Sliders

        Originally posted by illp8989
        If your enjoying it cool but when i see stuff like 55 in length knowing how much trough the years and specially this year whit player kinda stuck in position that much of a gap in length is kinda crazy i rather stick whit the OS and Matt10 sliders and get my personal tweak cause we can all have a different view of how football is played but here it’s a team of guy working on the sliders to get the best we can whit what we have but again to each is own that’s the beauty of offline play!!
        That's fair mate, I've only used Matt's sliders for years and will continue to do so. Only stumbled across that lads sliders and thought I'd bring it to conversation being as we're still feeling the game out. As mentioned, The CPU settings were a real eye opener, and I'm looking forward to what the team can do with it!

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        • Sebinov99
          Just started!
          • Oct 2024
          • 1

          #184
          Re: EA SPORTS FC25 OS Community Sliders

          Just wanted to say a big thanks for the sliders every year. This year I thought it's gonna be hard because of the players positions, especially CB's. It just felt way to easy, with the sliders now, it's so much better even though I'm still playing on Old Gen. I increased some settings here and there (errors, ft control and GK ability) and I'm so in love with the gameplay. I play on ultimate difficulty with semi pass and manual shooting, and the games are all so good. It's the first time I really need to think about where and how I pass the ball. I really missed that feeling. The final results of the games are really good. Before I had some games 5-3, 7-0, 6-2, now the results are (ManUTD player career playing full team) 2-1 PSV, 1-1 Leicester, 3-1 IPS, 3-2 Galatasaray, 2-1 Everton, 2-3 Arsenal, 1-1 Barca. And even tho I still win good amount of games, it's everything but easy. It really feels like I need to work for it. Against Barca I only got 4 shots the whole game, they played so good. I love it. Thanks for all the work y'all put in ����

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          • pixelhunter
            Rookie
            • Sep 2021
            • 130

            #185
            Re: EA SPORTS FC25 OS Community Sliders

            Certainly seems worth changing the CPU sliders to affect engagement.

            I was steam rolling teams before but now it feels a lot more balanced

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            • dubcity
              Hall Of Fame
              • May 2012
              • 17872

              #186
              Re: EA SPORTS FC25 OS Community Sliders

              Originally posted by aterry
              I get the fear no one testing wants the game to get hectic and crazy...it just has yet to play out that way because two things I think

              Its not random. It takes the base tactical sliders and just scales up or down from that a certain percentage. So no matter how many times I play Man City their build up speed never exceeded 30 ( I think that was the highest).

              Second, I do not think the effects of the sliders are as drastic as they might sound. I have seen crosses on 0 crossing. I see patience from teams at times on 90+ build up speed. So far it just hasn't played as I have feared but more as I hope. Again open to more data.
              When you say the Man City build up speed never exceeded 30, on what screen are you seeing that value?

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              • aterry
                Rookie
                • Apr 2007
                • 271

                #187
                Re: EA SPORTS FC25 OS Community Sliders

                Originally posted by dubcity
                When you say the Man City build up speed never exceeded 30, on what screen are you seeing that value?
                When you are in game you go to Cpu Sliders tab in settings.

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                • dubcity
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • May 2012
                  • 17872

                  #188
                  Re: EA SPORTS FC25 OS Community Sliders

                  Originally posted by aterry
                  When you are in game you go to Cpu Sliders tab in settings.

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                  I'm just confused. You said you had it set to tactical/dynamic and you're seeing those numbers go up and down in that menu? For me the values are grayed out and stay at 50.

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                  • aterry
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 271

                    #189
                    Re: EA SPORTS FC25 OS Community Sliders

                    Originally posted by dubcity
                    I'm just confused. You said you had it set to tactical/dynamic and you're seeing those numbers go up and down in that menu? For me the values are grayed out and stay at 50.
                    In the main menu yes it's 50. Once you start a game and go into the game menu you will see whatever the settings are for that game. If you switch from on to another in game they will be 50 however.

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                    • jei
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2022
                      • 72

                      #190
                      Re: EA SPORTS FC25 OS Community Sliders

                      I play FUMA - PS5 - 6 min - World class
                      Maybe because the half is 6 minutes, almost all my matches end 0:0. I play Bournemouth in the Premier League. I set up my tactics, the opponent just passes the ball around all the time, practically does not develop attacks. And it does not really matter who I play against: Leicester, Everton, Manchester City. They just can't score against me, and I can't score against them) At first I played on Tactics, then I tried Dynamic, there is a difference, but the score is still 0:0. I will try to set up the AI ​​behavior manually, or change the difficulty to legendary or increase the half time.

                      Thanks to Matt and the team for your work!

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                      • BrewCrew16
                        Pro
                        • Mar 2023
                        • 547

                        #191
                        Re: EA SPORTS FC25 OS Community Sliders

                        I'm having a tough time beating the keepers on FUMA as well. They make some absolutely ridiculous saves sometimes and so does the human gk for that matter. This is on legendary btw. I'm gonna most likely lower gk ability little by little.

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                        • pixelhunter
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2021
                          • 130

                          #192
                          Re: EA SPORTS FC25 OS Community Sliders

                          Originally posted by jei
                          I play FUMA - PS5 - 6 min - World class
                          Maybe because the half is 6 minutes, almost all my matches end 0:0. I play Bournemouth in the Premier League. I set up my tactics, the opponent just passes the ball around all the time, practically does not develop attacks. And it does not really matter who I play against: Leicester, Everton, Manchester City. They just can't score against me, and I can't score against them) At first I played on Tactics, then I tried Dynamic, there is a difference, but the score is still 0:0. I will try to set up the AI ​​behavior manually, or change the difficulty to legendary or increase the half time.

                          Thanks to Matt and the team for your work!
                          I think this is what Matt will eventually do. Neither tactical or dynamic seem to do anything to have the CPU form meaningful attacks. But if you manually affect the values you can at least see a change. My only worry is that each will just play the exact same way. Unfortunately there's still zero fouls unless you put handballs on. I really wish these games would offer more than a hint at a potentially good game that isn't then weighed down by a truck load of frustrations. I won't even get into the locked formations and being able to move players into your desired positions...

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                          • pixelhunter
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2021
                            • 130

                            #193
                            Re: EA SPORTS FC25 OS Community Sliders

                            Originally posted by BrewCrew16
                            I'm having a tough time beating the keepers on FUMA as well. They make some absolutely ridiculous saves sometimes and so does the human gk for that matter. This is on legendary btw. I'm gonna most likely lower gk ability little by little.

                            Sent from my moto g stylus using Tapatalk
                            I've found turning timed finishing on helps in this regard. Well timed shots are a little more powerful and accurate. I realise this option isn't for everyone.

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                            • sana
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2024
                              • 5

                              #194
                              Re: EA SPORTS FC25 OS Community Sliders

                              non slider related question but has anyone found a way to replicate the 4-3-3 holding formation with a CDM, CM and CAM that you can no longer make in FC25? I was by far and away my favourite way to set teams up in FC24 and every 4-3-3 I play now just has 40 yards between a flat midfield 3 and the front 3, even with a False 9.

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                              • aterry
                                Rookie
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 271

                                #195
                                Re: EA SPORTS FC25 OS Community Sliders

                                Originally posted by pixelhunter
                                I think this is what Matt will eventually do. Neither tactical or dynamic seem to do anything to have the CPU form meaningful attacks. But if you manually affect the values you can at least see a change. My only worry is that each will just play the exact same way. Unfortunately there's still zero fouls unless you put handballs on. I really wish these games would offer more than a hint at a potentially good game that isn't then weighed down by a truck load of frustrations. I won't even get into the locked formations and being able to move players into your desired positions...

                                Sent from my 23021RAA2Y using Operation Sports mobile app
                                I think there is more going on under the hood RE: Tactics and FCIQ then we know. So keep playing and lets see what shakes out. Discovery I made last night:

                                Playing as Man U testing sliders, playing Bournemouth. Noticing in my game they are playing very direct. Split strikers being fed balls very quickly and looking to attack my goal at pace. I thought boy that is interesting. Down 2-0. A bit nervous I had sprint too high or something in sliders. No all normal. CPU behavior sliders on dynamic but build up speed around 45. Ok interesting lets restart.

                                On restart of the file I first check the Opponent Analysis before the game and they report they are playing a KICK AND RUSH tactic. SOFIFA and the team sheet in the main menu Bournemouth are set to balanced build up. I think ok maybe its just a glitch. Go into play and again they are playing Kick and rush quick. Restart game again. Repeat. Opponent Analysis says Kick and Rush, play the game but this time they are playing like short passing and higher line that their default tactics say.

                                I test this on both Dynamic and tactical cpu behavior so I am sure this is something separate to that. So my theory is that when "smaller" clubs go up against a better side they sometimes adjust their tactics. Find Brentford in the calendar and sim to them. Opponent Analysis says Kick and Rush despite Brentford's default being Balanced and High Line.

                                Decide to start a fresh save with Ipswich. Sim to the Bournemouth game. Sure enough they are now Wing Play, short passing and high line in the Opponent Analysis.

                                All this tested on both Dynamic and Tactical

                                So my early theory is that there is some adjustment by the CPU in their tactics based on opponent but the opponent analysis will sometimes be wrong (probably lineup and tactics don't always match up what happens in the match) but this would be fairly realistic. Wonder if others are seeing this shifting of tactics.

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