Coaching respec is a feature that needs to be added

[noarmsduck]

I was of the mindset that they ability to respec coach abilities should have been in the game from the start, but given they are updating the balance of certain recruiting actions it's almost a necessity at this point.

I'm glad they are updating balance and changing things to what they should be. By all accounts the latest patch seems to have made good changes to recruiting IMO. However the game has been out for 2.5 months now and a lot of people have high level coaches and have spent their points given the meta that was in the game before the patch.

If devs make a change like this, it makes certain abilities that weren't that good before become viable. Players who have spent all their points now cannot make use of those abilities. Conversely, if they were to "nerf" an ability in the future, players who spent points on that ability get screwed over if it ends up being a useless ability for them, and those spent points are basically wasted.

Most people don't want to start over their dynasty every time there's a patch that changes the balance of coaching abilities and renders their current coaching spec sub optimal.

[AbsoluteFury]

Re: Coaching respec is a feature that needs to be added

I agree respec should be available. Crazy that it wasn't a basic option.

That said, the other option is to replace your coach. Not sure how to do this as the league commissioner and still keep my same team with the new coach. When I retire the existing coach and go to create new coach my team isn't available to choose. Any idea how to do this?

[jello1717]

Re: Coaching respec is a feature that needs to be added

I agree respec should be available. Crazy that it wasn't a basic option.



That said, the other option is to replace your coach. Not sure how to do this as the league commissioner and still keep my same team with the new coach. When I retire the existing coach and go to create new coach my team isn't available to choose. Any idea how to do this?

Create a new user and take over as existing coach for team A (not your current team).
Retire your coach from original team.
Create the coach you want for your original team.
Retire coach from Team A.

[Mhurricane266]

Re: Coaching respec is a feature that needs to be added

Respecing is definitely needed. Ive pretty much commited to using "New Coach" as a form of respec and allows me to use the "OPEN Positions" tab as my own personal Carousel rather than using the crap theyve provided. Down side is I start my coaches over but I just track my stats and build them back up.

[jello1717]

Re: Coaching respec is a feature that needs to be added

This’ll be unpopular and I’m sure I’ll be hit with the “more options is always better” argument, but personally I prefer not having respects being available and I hope they never add it to the games.

If they add it for users, then it absolutely should also be available for CPU coaches and I think it’d be really dumb to have coaches always changing around. “That Kirby Smart used to be the best recruiter in the country, but now he’s terrible at recruiting, but he’ an elite motivator.”

[Funkycorm]

Re: Coaching respec is a feature that needs to be added

I will dissent here and say I am glad that we can not respec. It makes it so we have to plan ahead for what we want. It adds some strategy to the coaching trees.

I don't disagree that options are nice but I do think there are other things that would take priority over this.

[falcor1234]

Re: Coaching respec is a feature that needs to be added

I agree i like it the way it is. It makes you map out what you want. What id like to see added is the ability to show interest in a job that you want but isn’t looking at you. Like have your agent contact them and then they evaluate you.


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[AbsoluteFury]

Re: Coaching respec is a feature that needs to be added

Create a new user and take over as existing coach for team A (not your current team).
Retire your coach from original team.
Create the coach you want for your original team.
Retire coach from Team A.

How do you create a new user?

[jello1717]

Re: Coaching respec is a feature that needs to be added

How do you create a new user?

Go to the rightmost tab (“dynasty setup” maybe?) and then the “members” section. In there tap Y to create a new user.

[Hooe]

Re: Coaching respec is a feature that needs to be added

Allowing respec takes the stakes out of leveling up a coach in the first place and doesn’t belong in this game as it is currently designed.

CFB25 Dynasty mode is a role-playing game. In order for decisions in role-playing games to be meaningful, they must have lasting consequences which impact how you play the game going forward from the decision.

Put another way: in Dungeons and Dragons, a bard can’t and doesn’t suddenly wake up and on a whim change into a full-on tanky barbarian because he’s bored of being a bard. That constraint makes the decision to play as a bard at all more meaningful.

[AbsoluteFury]

Re: Coaching respec is a feature that needs to be added

Go to the rightmost tab (“dynasty setup” maybe?) and then the “members” section. In there tap Y to create a new user.

I have option to invite member but not create one

[noarmsduck]

Re: Coaching respec is a feature that needs to be added

For all those disagreeing (I didn't quote all because there were several of you and would make the thread harder to read), consider this:

1. Just make it an option in dynasty settings, and let commissioners have the option of disabling respec in online dynasty. In offline, who cares if some guy you will never interact with respecs his coach 100 times.

2. I get the RPG and actions have consequences argument. As stated above, I prefer the sandbox experience and let users create their own experience. If they want to play it stringent then they can. If they don't then they can do whatever they want.

However to answer this specific argument, this limitation wouldn't be nearly as bad if EA weren't actively changing the balance of the abilities. In an RPG, when you equip an ability to your character you know what the full effects of that ability are both positives and negatives, as well as the strength of those things. Imagine making a DPS character, selecting an ability that fits that mold, and then a couple months down the line the devs rebalance the game and that ability barely helps your DPS at all.

As for the application to this game, refer to the OP:

If devs make a change like this, it makes certain abilities that weren't that good before become viable. Players who have spent all their points now cannot make use of those abilities. Conversely, if they were to "nerf" an ability in the future, players who spent points on that ability get screwed over if it ends up being a useless ability for them, and those spent points are basically wasted.

[DL1287]

Re: Coaching respec is a feature that needs to be added

I actually agree with you in regards to this. Just have it be an option that you can disable if you don't want it. They should also add an option to increase or decrease the max coach level to 25, 50, 75, or unlimited.

I don't know why people would be against any more options for dynasty mode, NBA2K has tons of options you can change that make it leagues above other franchise modes.

[khaliib]

Re: Coaching respec is a feature that needs to be added

If they allowed this, you just made coaches & Coord’s non-functional again having no purpose

You also remove a critical feature that drives Team Differentiation beyond playbooks

What sets College football apart from NFL is the dynamic nature of the unforeseen &/or non-controllable issues that can have a positive or negative impact on your team

Coach’s not possessing a particular talent while possessing another talent that will have tangible on-field or offield impacts is critical towards replay ability of the mode over multiple seasons

Lastly, teams have profiles with logic that dictates the type of coach & what talents the school will hire, if you respec talent trees, you just created a big issue with each AI teams coach hiring logic

[jwilphl]

Re: Coaching respec is a feature that needs to be added

I almost always would side with the idea of letting the user create their own preferred experience. EA just needs a few toggles as long as they don't literally break the game (and by that I mean causing instability or crashes). We can already adjust the speed of XP gain, let us adjust the max coach level, too.