Classic vs. Revamped

[callmetaternuts]

I still don’t understand the difference. Both have arc determined by how long you press the icon. What am I missing?

[Illin Degenerate]

Re: Classic vs. Revamped

the vague difference as i understand them is classic is more punitive but with placement theres more control over the landing spot if you so choose. revamped provides a more perfect trajectory to fit the ball in smaller windows kinda like aim assist for your qb.

[canes21]

Re: Classic vs. Revamped

Classic gives you 3 trajectories to work with.

If you run the same curl route and throw with the same timing every single time, then every time you throw a bullet it will have the same exact path. Every time you throw a touch it will have the same path. Every time you throw a lob, you guessed it, same path.

With Revamped you aren't throwing with 3 predetermined trajectories on each throw. Where you land on the meter determines the trajectory and ball speed. If I hold the button long enough to be more than a lob but not as long as a touch, I get a semi-touch pass that's got more loft than a Classic touch pass but isn't a full on lob. If I hold the button long enough to be more than a touch but less than a full on bullet, I get a trajectory in between that of a touch and bullet.

If I tap the button as little as possible for the highest trajectory with Revamped, I get a high lofting ball that's higher(and slower) than any lob I can get with Classic.

Simply put, you have significantly finer control over the velocity and loft of the pass since you're working with a meter now and not 3 predetermined pass types.

[MizzouRah]

Re: Classic vs. Revamped

I love revamped, the problem with it is it's too accurate no matter the QB.

Using classic fixed the press issues I was having with the CPU getting smoked by my speedy WR's on verts. Now, I under throw the ball, over throw, miss, etc.. it's been a game changer for me.

I don't think it effects the CPU QB's, but I am also seeing them have the same under/over throws as I am more often than I did on revamped.

[canes21]

Re: Classic vs. Revamped

I love revamped, the problem with it is it's too accurate no matter the QB.

Using classic fixed the press issues I was having with the CPU getting smoked by my speedy WR's on verts. Now, I under throw the ball, over throw, miss, etc.. it's been a game changer for me.

I don't think it effects the CPU QB's, but I am also seeing them have the same under/over throws as I am more often than I did on revamped.

This is why I stopped using Revamped. Too accurate.

I am really hoping next year we get Placement and Revamped combined as a setting that allows us to have the velocity/trajectory control of Revamped with the aiming ability of Placement along with the ratings dependency for accuracy.

[Playmakers]

Re: Classic vs. Revamped

This is why I stopped using Revamped. Too accurate.

I am really hoping next year we get Placement and Revamped combined as a setting that allows us to have the velocity/trajectory control of Revamped with the aiming ability of Placement along with the ratings dependency for accuracy.

Yep

Same here

I switched to Classic and never went back

[jello1717]

Classic vs. Revamped

This is why I stopped using Revamped. Too accurate.



I am really hoping next year we get Placement and Revamped combined as a setting that allows us to have the velocity/trajectory control of Revamped with the aiming ability of Placement along with the ratings dependency for accuracy.

I’ll third this. When using revamped, anytime my WR beat press coverage and got a step or 2 on the defender, a revamped lob pass was basically a guaranteed TD and it felt like cheating throwing it. Using classic, those are definitely not guaranteed (much more often it’s incomplete or even intercepted). But when I do complete it, it feels sooooooo satisfying.

[MizzouRah]

Re: Classic vs. Revamped

I’ll third this. When using revamped, anytime my WR beat press coverage and got a step or 2 on the defender, a revamped touch pass was basically a guaranteed TD and it felt like cheating throwing it. Using classic, those are definitely not guaranteed (much more often it’s incomplete or even intercepted). But when I do complete it, it feels sooooooo satisfying.

Agreed, and typically if I'm playing a good team, it's rarely completed. I do love seeing the occasional deep short throws where the WR stops, turns around, and makes the catch.

[DonkeyJote]

Re: Classic vs. Revamped

I switched back to Classic as well, and it feels like the QB releases the ball faster with that vs Revamped as well.

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[Gotmadskillzson]

Re: Classic vs. Revamped

Revamped with QBA at 15 and WR catch at 40 for me. I can never go back to classic.

[Feros Ferio 7]

Re: Classic vs. Revamped

Bump the speed threshold and that will lead to less separation on those deep balls.


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[canes21]

Re: Classic vs. Revamped

Bump the speed threshold and that will lead to less separation on those deep balls.


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The separation isn't the major issue, it's the constant precision that Revamped allows for regardless of ratings. Even when I was using 100 speed threshold the deep ball was automatic when using Revamped because of that.

[MizzouRah]

Re: Classic vs. Revamped

The separation isn't the major issue, it's the constant precision that Revamped allows for regardless of ratings. Even when I was using 100 speed threshold the deep ball was automatic when using Revamped because of that.

This, I could drop a ball over the top just about every pass.

To each their own, but classic passing saved the game for me.

[TarHeelPhenom]

Re: Classic vs. Revamped

I've been using Revamped from day 1 with Large, and now with the meter hidden and it's been great. I'm also playing with Speed Threshold at 95 as well so those throw windows close quickly. Playing on build 1.0.0.9, if anybody remembers, if you make a mistake, the CPU will pick you off with a possible pick 6 waiting to happen. And QB ratings (SAC, MAC, LAC etc) does matter.

But, no hating what so ever to those who use classic. I'm just glad we're able to have the options that fit the way we wanna play.

[ehh]

Re: Classic vs. Revamped

I can't deal with Classic. The trajectories are so poor and flat and my biggest complaint is that SO many deep balls are thrown like 5-10 yards short for no apparent reason. 98 overall QB, 82 overall QB. Throw it early, throw it late. It doesn't matter. I've had games where I throw 5-6 consecutive deep balls that are absurdly short even holding up on LS and pressing the WR icon when it's lit up.

While Revamped is too accurate it's so fun to be able to drop it in the bucket and complete passes I wouldn't consider even trying on Classic. And it helps to be able to throw deep balls without wanting to break my controller.