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  • chris431
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    • Mar 2009
    • 36

    #1

    No Penalties in Offline Mode

    I have yet to go on a power play after playing about 40 games (4 minutes periods) in offline mode. I have penalties set at the max 4, and have all of the CPU penalty sliders set to 100. Is there an option I'm missing or is this the way the game plays?
  • Fiddy
    Twitch/YouTube: Fiddy14
    • Jul 2002
    • 12639

    #2
    Re: No Penalties in Offline Mode

    Originally posted by chris431
    I have yet to go on a power play after playing about 40 games (4 minutes periods) in offline mode. I have penalties set at the max 4, and have all of the CPU penalty sliders set to 100. Is there an option I'm missing or is this the way the game plays?
    Nope, it's basically broke compared to years past.

    I played just like you said for handful of games with everyone of the sliders maxed to 100 and penalties at 4.

    Most success I have had with penalties and it's probably just luck was to set them all to 83. Why 83? That's what EA had as default interference in years past. Figured it was set there for a reason so I set them all too it. I've seen charging, cross checks, elbows, holds, and multiple delay of game penalties all on the CPU. Yet, still have games with nothing, but at 83 I get the best mix for what it is this year. Main penalties I get are holdings, trips, and high sticking.

    I play 6 or 7 min periods and will see on a good day 4 penalties called combined in a game.
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    • chris431
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      • Mar 2009
      • 36

      #3
      Re: No Penalties in Offline Mode

      Thank you for the advice, I'll give that a try and see what happens.

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      • sjp99
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        • Apr 2005
        • 64

        #4
        Re: No Penalties in Offline Mode

        Originally posted by chris431
        I have yet to go on a power play after playing about 40 games (4 minutes periods) in offline mode.
        If you're seeking a sim experience with stats close to an actual NHL game, such as amount of penalties, I think it's going to be tough with 4 minute periods. That short a time likely will lead to a more arcade type of game - if you're racing up and down the ice peppering shots on net and not setting up in the offensive zone cycling or grinding on the boards and in the corners, it's going to be tough to draw many penalties.

        The game gives what you put into it. It's fine if you prefer up and down action in a compressed amount of time but the tradeoff is you're likely not going to get NHL numbers, and subsequently very many penalties. I've found 7 minutes to be the sweet spot for my style of play (a more sim approach) and consistently get 4-7 power plays per game. I have CPU penalty sliders at 100 except for delay of game at 60 and holding at 87. This is my typical stat line (captured before OT, I play as Vancouver).
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        • chris431
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          • Mar 2009
          • 36

          #5
          Re: No Penalties in Offline Mode

          Thank you. I'll try uping the period time to 7 minutes and make the other adjustments.

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          • Barzalmode
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            • Nov 2022
            • 91

            #6
            Re: No Penalties in Offline Mode

            Originally posted by sjp99
            If you're seeking a sim experience with stats close to an actual NHL game, such as amount of penalties, I think it's going to be tough with 4 minute periods. That short a time likely will lead to a more arcade type of game - if you're racing up and down the ice peppering shots on net and not setting up in the offensive zone cycling or grinding on the boards and in the corners, it's going to be tough to draw many penalties.

            The game gives what you put into it. It's fine if you prefer up and down action in a compressed amount of time but the tradeoff is you're likely not going to get NHL numbers, and subsequently very many penalties. I've found 7 minutes to be the sweet spot for my style of play (a more sim approach) and consistently get 4-7 power plays per game. I have CPU penalty sliders at 100 except for delay of game at 60 and holding at 87. This is my typical stat line (captured before OT, I play as Vancouver).

            Sorry, could you clarify... are only putting "cpu penalties" at 100. What about "human penalties"? What about the overall penalty slider under the Rules tab, do you keep that at 3 or bump it up to 4?


            Also, how are you getting such low (normal) hit numbers?
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            • MizzouRah
              All Star
              • Jul 2002
              • 8515

              #7
              Re: No Penalties in Offline Mode

              Originally posted by Barzalmode
              Sorry, could you clarify... are only putting "cpu penalties" at 100. What about "human penalties"? What about the overall penalty slider under the Rules tab, do you keep that at 3 or bump it up to 4?


              Also, how are you getting such low (normal) hit numbers?
              Yes, please tell us your settings, these stat numbers look great!

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              • Fiddy
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                • Jul 2002
                • 12639

                #8
                Re: No Penalties in Offline Mode

                Originally posted by Barzalmode
                Sorry, could you clarify... are only putting "cpu penalties" at 100. What about "human penalties"? What about the overall penalty slider under the Rules tab, do you keep that at 3 or bump it up to 4?


                Also, how are you getting such low (normal) hit numbers?
                Checking Balance Slider from default 83 to 100, combined with Hitting Power at 12 gets me 37 to 45 hits a game combined on 7 min periods. Curious to see his set up as well.

                He mentions play more sim, cycle, etc instead of up and down. I just played 5 straight games with all penalties at 100 and only had 3 calls combined in all 4 games and I cycled more than everyone at the Tour de France.

                But if he is getting a typical 9 combined power plays per game, god bless, post that set up please we all would benefit from it.

                IMO EA did something to the penalties unintentionally this year. Maybe it will get addressed in a patch?
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                • Fiddy
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                  • Jul 2002
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                  #9
                  Re: No Penalties in Offline Mode

                  Originally posted by MizzouRah
                  Yes, please tell us your settings, these stat numbers look great!
                  Mizz, how are you playing this year slider wise? I know we usually have a similar mindset when attempting to get the game to play a certain way without a ton of changes..
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                  • gsize19
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                    • Aug 2011
                    • 699

                    #10
                    Re: No Penalties in Offline Mode

                    Originally posted by chris431
                    I have yet to go on a power play after playing about 40 games (4 minutes periods) in offline mode. I have penalties set at the max 4, and have all of the CPU penalty sliders set to 100. Is there an option I'm missing or is this the way the game plays?
                    Very interesting... I see 8-10 penalties combined per game...
                    If you keep bowing down and praising the developers, (NHL series) nothing they give us the consumer will ever be a "finished" product. Take a stand, it is your money!!!.

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                    • MizzouRah
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 8515

                      #11
                      Re: No Penalties in Offline Mode

                      Originally posted by Fiddy
                      Mizz, how are you playing this year slider wise? I know we usually have a similar mindset when attempting to get the game to play a certain way without a ton of changes..
                      I'm waiting on the Jim Montgomery to St. Louis update before I really dig in.

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                      • sjp99
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 64

                        #12
                        Re: No Penalties in Offline Mode

                        Originally posted by MizzouRah
                        Yes, please tell us your settings, these stat numbers look great!
                        I've been playing the NHL series since it started over 30 yrs ago and been a forum member here for over 20 yrs but have never posted sliders because mine vary drastically from the typical set and likely wouldn't work for the typical player (cuz of reasons below), and probably just freak folks out!
                        I've never been an expert player so I skew sliders in my favor (not to win exclusively but to keep stats/results as realistic as possible within my skill level). Also, I use broadcast cam exclusively (well, true broadcast legacy now), which most players don't and the gameplay can vary a bit with that view, specifically skating speed, shooting and board play.

                        That said and keeping those variables in mind, here's my settings per request. Again, these work for my specific play style which as stated, is not great!...but is very sim rooted, I have no specific house rules but just try to play as an NHL team would.

                        Controls
                        Hybrid
                        Auto Back Skate ON
                        Shooting Always Up
                        Human Goalie Covers Auto
                        Hug Post Auto

                        Visual
                        Auto Zoom Auto
                        Camera True Broadcast Legacy
                        All Visual Aids Off

                        Game Settings
                        Rules: Custom
                        Period Length: 7 minutes
                        Difficulty: Pro
                        Camera: True Broadcast Legacy
                        Away Line Changes: Auto
                        Away Shot Aim: Auto
                        Home Line Changes: Auto
                        Home Shot Aim: Auto

                        Rules
                        Fighting: 2/2
                        Icing: On
                        Injuries: On
                        Offsides: Delayed
                        Penalties: 4/4
                        Trapezoid Rule: On
                        Penalty Time Scaling: 2/6
                        Post Whistle Rules: Authentic
                        Coincidental Penalty Time Scale: 2/6

                        Gameplay Sliders
                        General
                        Gameplay Version: Latest
                        Attribute Effects: 1/10
                        Broken Stick Frequency: 50
                        Game Speed: 0
                        Fatigue Effect: 30
                        Fatigue Recovery: 60
                        Injury Occurrence: 50

                        Skating
                        Back Skating: 90
                        Puck Carrier Agility: 10
                        Puck Carrier Skating: 98
                        Player Acceleration: CPU 0 | HUM 0
                        Skating Speed: CPU 55 | HUM 59
                        Skating Agility: CPU 10 | HUM 20

                        Shooting
                        One Timer Accuracy: CPU 37 | HUM 42
                        Shot Accuracy: CPU 40 | HUM 45
                        Shot Power: CPU 42 | HUM 42
                        Slap Shot Accuracy: CPU 37 | HUM 42
                        Slap Shot Power: CPU 42 | HUM 42

                        Passing
                        Manual Passing: ON
                        Pass Assist: 100
                        Min Pass Speed: 35
                        Max Pass Speed: 58
                        Saucer Pass Speed: 50
                        Pass Accuracy: CPU 0 | HUM 100
                        Pass Interceptions: CPU 0 | HUM 100
                        Pass Reception Ease: CPU 20 | HUM 35
                        Reception Reaction Time: CPU 35 | HUM 35
                        Puck Control Rating Effect: CPU 50 | HUM 50
                        Puck Speed Reception Effect: CPU 60 | HUM 50
                        Pickup Type Effect: CPU 50 | HUM 50
                        Bouncing Puck Receptions: CPU 15 | HUM 15

                        Puck Control
                        Stick In Physics: Stick, Legs And Body
                        Incidental Contact Puck Loss: Stick, Legs And Body
                        Incidental Stick Contact Immunity: 0
                        Puck Control: CPU 50 | HUM 50
                        Deking Impact: 50
                        Spin Deke Impact: 50
                        Skating Impact: 50

                        Goalies
                        Goalie Cover Frequency: 90
                        Goalie Passing: 70
                        Goalie Cross Crease Reaction Time: CPU 40 | HUM 45
                        Goalie Save Reaction Time: CPU 0 | HUM 5
                        Goalie Deflection Reaction Time: 0
                        Goalie Screen Effect: 100
                        Goalie Screen Persistence: 50

                        Checking
                        Board Effect Non-Puck Carrier: 100
                        Board Effect Puck Carrier: 100
                        Hitting Assistance: 45
                        Stumble Threshold: 70
                        Fall And Stumble Fall Ease: 30
                        Aggression: CPU 0 | HUM 0
                        Hitting Power: 0
                        Size Effect: 75
                        Speed Effect: 50
                        Checking/Balance Rating Effect: 100
                        Preparedness Effect: 50
                        Incidental Contact Effect: 50
                        Poke Checking Accuracy: CPU 20 | HUM 30
                        Poke Checking Power: CPU 90 | HUM 100
                        Stick Lift Effectiveness: CPU 40 | HUM 50

                        Penalties
                        CPU Penalties: 100
                        CPU Teammate Penalties: 85
                        Tripping: CPU 100 | HUM 85
                        Slashing: CPU 100 | HUM 85
                        Elbowing: 100
                        High Sticking: 100
                        Cross Checking: 100
                        Boarding: 100
                        Charging: 100
                        Delay of Game: CPU 60 | HUM 50
                        Holding: 87
                        Hooking: 100
                        Interference: 100

                        AI
                        AI Learning: 0/6
                        CPU Difficulty Adjustment: 0/6
                        CPU Faceoff Difficulty: 50
                        Fight Difficulty: 50
                        CPU Strategy Adjustment: 1/6

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                        Last edited by sjp99; 11-28-2024, 09:31 PM.

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                        • scitychamps87
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                          • Apr 2010
                          • 1201

                          #13
                          Re: No Penalties in Offline Mode

                          I believe this may be related to the default settings. Don’t quote me on this but I think both “AI penalties” and “AI teammate penalties” are cranked way down in the sliders by default.


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                          • THESHAMISASHAME
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                            • Mar 2013
                            • 1482

                            #14
                            Re: No Penalties in Offline Mode

                            Originally posted by chris431
                            I have yet to go on a power play after playing about 40 games (4 minutes periods) in offline mode. I have penalties set at the max 4, and have all of the CPU penalty sliders set to 100. Is there an option I'm missing or is this the way the game plays?
                            Getting I wasn't getting many either maybe one in a 5-minute game so I used my sliders from NHL 22 most were basically 85 for the computer and 55 for human and I got five power plays the next game
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                            • Travolterjohn
                              MVP
                              • Dec 2018
                              • 3169

                              #15
                              Re: No Penalties in Offline Mode

                              Originally posted by sjp99
                              I've been playing the NHL series since it started over 30 yrs ago and been a forum member here for over 20 yrs but have never posted sliders because mine vary drastically from the typical set and likely wouldn't work for the typical player (cuz of reasons below), and probably just freak folks out!
                              I've never been an expert player so I skew sliders in my favor (not to win exclusively but to keep stats/results as realistic as possible within my skill level). Also, I use broadcast cam exclusively (well, true broadcast legacy now), which most players don't and the gameplay can vary a bit with that view, specifically skating speed, shooting and board play.

                              That said and keeping those variables in mind, here's my settings per request. Again, these work for my specific play style which as stated, is not great!...but is very sim rooted, I have no specific house rules but just try to play as an NHL team would.

                              Controls
                              Hybrid
                              Auto Back Skate ON
                              Shooting Always Up
                              Human Goalie Covers Auto
                              Hug Post Auto

                              Visual
                              Auto Zoom Auto
                              Camera True Broadcast Legacy
                              All Visual Aids Off

                              Game Settings
                              Rules: Custom
                              Period Length: 7 minutes
                              Difficulty: Pro
                              Camera: True Broadcast Legacy
                              Away Line Changes: Auto
                              Away Shot Aim: Auto
                              Home Line Changes: Auto
                              Home Shot Aim: Auto

                              Rules
                              Fighting: 2/2
                              Icing: On
                              Injuries: On
                              Offsides: Delayed
                              Penalties: 4/4
                              Trapezoid Rule: On
                              Penalty Time Scaling: 2/6
                              Post Whistle Rules: Authentic
                              Coincidental Penalty Time Scale: 2/6

                              Gameplay Sliders
                              General
                              Gameplay Version: Latest
                              Attribute Effects: 1/10
                              Broken Stick Frequency: 50
                              Game Speed: 0
                              Fatigue Effect: 30
                              Fatigue Recovery: 60
                              Injury Occurrence: 50

                              Skating
                              Back Skating: 90
                              Puck Carrier Agility: 10
                              Puck Carrier Skating: 98
                              Player Acceleration: CPU 0 | HUM 0
                              Skating Speed: CPU 55 | HUM 59
                              Skating Agility: CPU 10 | HUM 20

                              Shooting
                              One Timer Accuracy: CPU 37 | HUM 42
                              Shot Accuracy: CPU 40 | HUM 45
                              Shot Power: CPU 42 | HUM 42
                              Slap Shot Accuracy: CPU 37 | HUM 42
                              Slap Shot Power: CPU 42 | HUM 42

                              Passing
                              Manual Passing: ON
                              Pass Assist: 100
                              Min Pass Speed: 35
                              Max Pass Speed: 58
                              Saucer Pass Speed: 50
                              Pass Accuracy: CPU 0 | HUM 100
                              Pass Interceptions: CPU 0 | HUM 100
                              Pass Reception Ease: CPU 20 | HUM 35
                              Reception Reaction Time: CPU 35 | HUM 35
                              Puck Control Rating Effect: CPU 50 | HUM 50
                              Puck Speed Reception Effect: CPU 60 | HUM 50
                              Pickup Type Effect: CPU 50 | HUM 50
                              Bouncing Puck Receptions: CPU 15 | HUM 15

                              Puck Control
                              Stick In Physics: Stick, Legs And Body
                              Incidental Contact Puck Loss: Stick, Legs And Body
                              Incidental Stick Contact Immunity: 0
                              Puck Control: CPU 50 | HUM 50
                              Deking Impact: 50
                              Spin Deke Impact: 50
                              Skating Impact: 50

                              Goalies
                              Goalie Cover Frequency: 90
                              Goalie Passing: 70
                              Goalie Cross Crease Reaction Time: CPU 40 | HUM 45
                              Goalie Save Reaction Time: CPU 0 | HUM 5
                              Goalie Deflection Reaction Time: 0
                              Goalie Screen Effect: 100
                              Goalie Screen Persistence: 50

                              Checking
                              Board Effect Non-Puck Carrier: 100
                              Board Effect Puck Carrier: 100
                              Hitting Assistance: 45
                              Stumble Threshold: 70
                              Fall And Stumble Fall Ease: 30
                              Aggression: CPU 0 | HUM 0
                              Hitting Power: 0
                              Size Effect: 75
                              Speed Effect: 50
                              Checking/Balance Rating Effect: 100
                              Preparedness Effect: 50
                              Incidental Contact Effect: 50
                              Poke Checking Accuracy: CPU 20 | HUM 30
                              Poke Checking Power: CPU 90 | HUM 100
                              Stick Lift Effectiveness: CPU 40 | HUM 50

                              Penalties
                              CPU Penalties: 100
                              CPU Teammate Penalties: 85
                              Tripping: CPU 100 | HUM 85
                              Slashing: CPU 100 | HUM 85
                              Elbowing: 100
                              High Sticking: 100
                              Cross Checking: 100
                              Boarding: 100
                              Charging: 100
                              Delay of Game: CPU 60 | HUM 50
                              Holding: 87
                              Hooking: 100
                              Interference: 100

                              AI
                              AI Learning: 0/6
                              CPU Difficulty Adjustment: 0/6
                              CPU Faceoff Difficulty: 50
                              Fight Difficulty: 50
                              CPU Strategy Adjustment: 1/6

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                              I am the same type of player like you. Play with hybrid controls and with true broadcast cam. Play this game since many, many years excluding NHL 24. Play the same period length of 7 minutes and so on. Have that big problems that often I have about 30 or more penalty minutes and the CPU hast only some few in a game. If I set the CPU penalty slider to 100 and mine to 0 doesnt change anything. It is not every game, but sometimes I play most of a period 3 vs 5. Will try your sliders, maybe they will help. I never had such problems in past NHL games. Sometimes the CPU plays like robots. I have the player attributes 9/10, same as in past NHL games.
                              Last edited by Travolterjohn; 12-03-2024, 06:46 PM.

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