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  • RealmK
    Banned
    • Sep 2003
    • 4199

    #16
    Re: E3 NHL 10 Preview

    Originally posted by CarryTheWeight
    "Hardcore Passing"? Amazing. If it's as precise as the preview says, we could be having a fun time with this game, it seems like it could really ramp up the creativity factor and present some interesting plays.

    I'm pretty disappointed, however, in the apparent lack of improvement in the presentation department...however, I'm not going to put my foot down until I see some video. The game is still in the early stages (I think) so many more features could be implemented down the road. It's one area 2K completely demolishes EA in, so I'm really perplexed why the presentation hasn't (apparently) been fixed to match the huge improvements 2K9 made in that area.

    Overall, though, what Chase said is pretty encouraging. Can't wait to see what additional info comes out in the next few weeks.
    I'm wondering if its more one of those "if we're going to majorly overhaul it, lets wait and do it right" I'm in the minority about 2k's presentation, I hardly think a 5 year old pbp script, corny as hell and badly delivered, even with a 3rd commentator doing in between period breaks is really that much of an upgrade.

    I'd be content with a few more stat overlays in the meantime though.

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    • bigwill33
      MVP
      • Jul 2002
      • 2266

      #17
      Liking the drop passes and the gloving the puck out of the air. Two things that were widely missed.

      Time will tell how hard it is to pass, simply because the directional passing is the same stick as the one you control your skating.

      Still, it is disappointing there is not an improvement in presentation.

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      • sharks
        Pro
        • Jul 2008
        • 690

        #18
        Who's Steve Avery?
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        • ChaseB
          #BringBackFaceuary
          • Oct 2003
          • 9655

          #19
          Re: E3 NHL 10 Preview

          Originally posted by BigPoppa17211
          Great preview! Loving the changes so far!

          Maybe you could do a part 2 on some of the things you can do with the puck and the physics?

          Can never have enough info, right?
          Ha, I probably won't do part 2, but I'll certainly talk about the game more on here -- assuming you guys want to know more. Simply ask questions.

          Originally posted by bonannogiovanni
          Chase, do you know by chance if the broadcast camera angle has been overhauled to look like real broadcast? (Reading your thoughts on presentation I bet not )
          My best guess is no. I asked about new camera angles and was told there are no new ones, so I doubt they overhauled any existing ones either.

          Originally posted by Bumble14
          Actually, SI belive Steve Avery, former pitcher for the Atlanta Braves was a solid hockey player back in the day.
          Ha, yeah true story, I wrote most of this while watching the Braves the other today on MLB Extra Innings. So, that will teach me to write about hockey with baseball on -- I had to see Tommy Hanson though.

          Originally posted by joker75
          I have still one question : Which button is for pokechecking now? Because Flyermania sad there is any change for this... You can do pokecheck move front of the player without tripping now I hope.... :wink:

          And... When you send us some answers from the questions thread ?
          Right bumper is still the poke button, but once again I could have talked about stick lift and poke check a bit. I think you'll see less of those weird poke check and stick lift penalties when you are in front of an opposing player who is coming towards you. I also think you'll see many more penalties when someone goes for a stick lift from behind a player, or at least that's the goal and I did notice some change.

          And I'll answer Qs (the ones I can) after this post.

          Originally posted by RealmK
          Nice preview Chase. Loved what you said about the passing, can't wait to try hardcore out. couple quick questions, did you notice any more stat overlays at all while playing? Also from the little bit that you played do the goalies seem to be smarter? Will they come out and challenge more when appropiate?
          You know it's been a bit since I played so it's a little tricky to remember, but I do know the stat overlays are a bit tweaked in terms of how they look. I feel like I would have written it down in my notebook if I noticed new stat overlays popping up during a game though.

          Hard to say about the goalies after such a little amount of time with the game. I certainly liked just about every new animation I saw while playing. At this point my only complaint would be that some of the old animations are left over (namely desperation and cover-up saves) and those were the ones I think that could be abused by players at points.

          Originally posted by RealmK
          I'm wondering if its more one of those "if we're going to majorly overhaul it, lets wait and do it right.
          From what I gather, generally that is the NHL team's philosophy: either do it right or don't do it at all. I admire that and do think it's better to go that route, at least from a reception standpoint. I did talk to David Littman about the presentation a bit, and got the impression that when changes occurred on the presentation front, they would be big rather than small. In the mean time, I wouldn't want them wasting time adding one or two new cut scenes if it took away from focusing more attention on the gameplay.
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          • ohyeahbaby123
            Pro
            • Apr 2007
            • 922

            #20
            Re: E3 NHL 10 Preview

            Hey Chase could you expand on the puck physics more? And also, how is the hardcore style of play different than say the regular style of play?

            Thanks!
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            • mdgoalie37
              MVP
              • Apr 2006
              • 1456

              #21
              My big concern is collision detection - just too often woudl players' sticks, skates or the puck would pass right though my stick, skate or leg. I think this really became apparent post patch when you had to play more positionally instead of hitting everything in sight. I hated when I got my guy in positions and my opponent went right through me, literally.

              Any notice if this was addressed?
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              • Matt Diesel
                MVP
                • Mar 2003
                • 1642

                #22
                It would be nice if they showed cumulative stats for OTP during league games so you know how is dangerous and who you should keep an eye on. I hope hardcore passing is the default for OTP.
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                • Shockgeez04
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 216

                  #23
                  Re: E3 NHL 10 Preview

                  Thanx for the preview Chase, can't wait!

                  2 Questions:

                  1- How often did you get penalized for doing the new postplay scrum stuff? ... i.e. facewashing, and/or knocking someone down with a check

                  2- Did you try shooting on the goalie after the whistle? If so did anything happen, they mentioned a CPU player might come after you.
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                  • buzzguy
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 355

                    #24
                    Drool! Can't wait for September to roll-around!

                    Too bad about the presentation, though. Especially the crowds...are there even female fans in the arena yet?

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                    • bigwill33
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 2266

                      #25
                      Re: E3 NHL 10 Preview

                      Are you allowed to say if you know anything about Online Franchise or Playoff mode? Or if you can have multible users in offline franchise?

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                      • shakeable
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 106

                        #26
                        Re: E3 NHL 10 Preview

                        Since they have changed passing to be pressure sensitive. Is it still possible to do a one time pass?

                        If so is the speed of these one time passes automatic to reach the intended target or is it still possible to choose the strength of the pass?

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                        • sharks
                          Pro
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 690

                          #27
                          Re: E3 NHL 10 Preview

                          I was playing a game yesterday and dove out from behind to swipe the puck away from a player on a breakaway. Rather than trip him or poke the puck away, my player's stick went right through his skates and the puck. Then, he shot it over my goalie's shoulder and scored. Ridiculous.
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                          • bigwill33
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 2266

                            #28
                            Re: E3 NHL 10 Preview

                            Double post, I hit refresh and it posted it again.

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                            • ChaseB
                              #BringBackFaceuary
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 9655

                              #29
                              Re: E3 NHL 10 Preview

                              If you check out the E3 questions thread, you'll notice I also answered some questions in there.

                              Originally posted by bigwill33
                              Are you allowed to say if you know anything about Online Franchise or Playoff mode? Or if you can have multible users in offline franchise?
                              Originally posted by bigwill33
                              Are you allowed to say if you know anything about Online Franchise or Playoff mode? Or if you can have multible users in offline franchise?
                              You know BW, asking the same question in the span of 30 minutes doesn't help your cause.

                              Anyway, I was playing the game within a new mode of sorts, but I don't believe I am supposed to talk about it at this point. Otherwise, they weren't talking about new modes as of yet so I am not keeping anything else as a secret.

                              Originally posted by Matt Diesel
                              It would be nice if they showed cumulative stats for OTP during league games so you know how is dangerous and who you should keep an eye on. I hope hardcore passing is the default for OTP.
                              I agree on both fronts. I mentioned having cumulative stats for OTP while talking with David Littman, but I don't believe it will make it in this time around. I also hope hardcore, or at least normal, is the default when playing online because it will be messed up if one team is playing with hardcore controls while the other team uses the casual controls. It would completely tip the scales and probably force many players to use the casual passing controls to keep up.

                              Originally posted by Shockgeez04
                              Thanx for the preview Chase, can't wait!

                              2 Questions:

                              1- How often did you get penalized for doing the new postplay scrum stuff? ... i.e. facewashing, and/or knocking someone down with a check

                              2- Did you try shooting on the goalie after the whistle? If so did anything happen, they mentioned a CPU player might come after you.
                              1. All the time. I took some running charges at some players, while other times I simply kept slashing players on the other team. After a bit of the novelty factor wore off, I started to just face wash guys and try to draw instigator penalties rather than hurt my own team -- I didn't get called for penalties during those instances.

                              2. Yeah, I shot at the goalie a few times, which got the other team angry. I also shot the puck at opposing players (Alfredsson style circa the Stanley Cup finals against the Ducks), which also got the other team chapped.

                              Originally posted by buzzguy
                              Drool! Can't wait for September to roll-around!

                              Too bad about the presentation, though. Especially the crowds...are there even female fans in the arena yet?
                              Yeah, female fans are in the game now.

                              Originally posted by shakeable
                              Since they have changed passing to be pressure sensitive. Is it still possible to do a one time pass?

                              If so is the speed of these one time passes automatic to reach the intended target or is it still possible to choose the strength of the pass?
                              Oh yeah, absolutely. What's cool is you can play the puck to an area and have the other guy skate to the puck and rip it in one motion. The same goes for something like a drop pass. Just drop the puck and let someone come up behind you and drill the puck.

                              And no, the speed of the one-timer is no longer automatic on hardcore because now you control where the puck is going, and at what speed, at all times. It's all about how much pressure you put on the passing trigger.

                              Originally posted by sharks
                              I was playing a game yesterday and dove out from behind to swipe the puck away from a player on a breakaway. Rather than trip him or poke the puck away, my player's stick went right through his skates and the puck. Then, he shot it over my goalie's shoulder and scored. Ridiculous.
                              Fascinating!
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                              • joker75
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2006
                                • 38

                                #30
                                Re: E3 NHL 10 Preview

                                Hopefully there is a degree of difficulty to hitting the puck out of midair because this video looks too easy for this rebound....



                                And disalowed goal for High-sticking .... Is there video-referee in nhl10 ?

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