NCAA Football 13 Recruiting Database (TSO)

[feeq14]

Quote: Originally Posted by RynoAid

" As a result, Shaun and I offered to take a look at their recruit database and see what changes we could make to help the generated recruiting classes make more sense." they made the changes in the game... and thanks for the design feedback.. i was going for a placenta....

In that case kudos. Im just so used to the community coming up with their own fixes for gameplay flaws (i repurchased NCAA12 last week and spent the first 5 hours creating playbooks without four verticles or screenpasses) it gets annoying to see gameplay fixes before the game is even out. Good job on getting it in. And nothing wrong with the uterus, its the most important organ in the history of life...

[vanderbiltfan87]

Great work guys. This has been an issue for years and is so hard to ignore while playing dynasty. Hopefully next year the developers can add something of a weight and conditioning program, if you will, to emulate real life. So many recruits come in undersized but have a frame which can support lots of weight gain. It's not uncommon to see an OT or DE put on 40 pounds over a year or two. (I mean, I hit the gym a year ago and have put on 20 pounds) It would really add another level to dynasty mode if while recruiting, there was a way to check how close a recruit is to filling out his body. Maybe there's a 6'4 255 pound TE with great feet and blocking skills, and you have an extra scholarship to use but may not see an OT that has what you're looking for. Well, sign the TE and redshirt him and watch him grow. Of course, 85 man rosters would make this more fun, but that's another story. Anyway, thanks for the input.

[NDAlum]

Small step in the right direction

[brza37]

I think its a good start but I think the bigger problem is that players do not gain weight in NCAA. In real life a lot of guys will put on 15-20 pounds during their college careers.

And I like your proposed system better than the old one but I think the top end is a bit too heavy in what you proposed. There just aren't many 6'5" WR coming out of HS at 220. There are 6'5" DEs that come out at 220 but get FBS scholarships because they have a good burst and a wide frame that the coaches know they can pack another 30 pounds minimum onto.

But like I said I like your system much better and I'm glad you got them to change.

I think the next step has to be linking tendencies with weight as rudy suggested. No more 5'8" 170 lb possession receivers or powerbacks. Then they need to fix weight progression during the careers.

If every recruit randomly gained between 0 and 4% weight each year that wouldn't be realistic either though. Weight progression should ideally be a hidden value like Potential attached to each individual recruit. Some guys can gain weight while others can't. That should allow for still having guys like Desean Jackson graduate at roughly the same weight as he came in but also allow for others who started off as WRs to gain so much bulk they get moved to TE or LB to DE.

EDIT: Oops, I see someone already brought up my point. I forgot to hit send and Vanderbiltfan kinda stole my point in the meantime

[jfsolo]

This may be only an aesthetic change for this year, but for me, a tweak like this adds to my level of immersion much more than any improved aspects of presentation.

Many may consider this a small thing, but for members of the community to get them to take the first step to finally fixing something that has been sub par forever, is a job well done. Good work guys.

[vanderbiltfan87]

Quote: Originally Posted by brza37

I think its a good start but I think the bigger problem is that players do not gain weight in NCAA. In real life a lot of guys will put on 15-20 pounds during their college careers. And I like your proposed system better than the old one but I think the top end is a bit too heavy in what you proposed. There just aren't many 6'5" WR coming out of HS at 220. There are 6'5" DEs that come out at 220 but get FBS scholarships because they have a good burst and a wide frame that the coaches know they can pack another 30 pounds minimum onto. But like I said I like your system much better and I'm glad you got them to change. I think the next step has to be linking tendencies with weight as rudy suggested. No more 5'8" 170 lb possession receivers or powerbacks. Then they need to fix weight progression during the careers. If every recruit randomly gained between 0 and 4% weight each year that wouldn't be realistic either though. Weight progression should ideally be a hidden value like Potential attached to each individual recruit. Some guys can gain weight while others can't. That should allow for still having guys like Desean Jackson graduate at roughly the same weight as he came in but also allow for others who started off as WRs to gain so much bulk they get moved to TE or LB to DE. EDIT: Oops, I see someone already brought up my point. I forgot to hit send and Vanderbiltfan kinda stole my point in the meantime

It's a point that I feel could not be reiterated enough. That was my first post on here in probably a year if that tells you anything.

[shaunlmason]

Quote: Originally Posted by brza37

I think its a good start but I think the bigger problem is that players do not gain weight in NCAA. In real life a lot of guys will put on 15-20 pounds during their college careers. And I like your proposed system better than the old one but I think the top end is a bit too heavy in what you proposed. There just aren't many 6'5" WR coming out of HS at 220. There are 6'5" DEs that come out at 220 but get FBS scholarships because they have a good burst and a wide frame that the coaches know they can pack another 30 pounds minimum onto. But like I said I like your system much better and I'm glad you got them to change. I think the next step has to be linking tendencies with weight as rudy suggested. No more 5'8" 170 lb possession receivers or powerbacks. Then they need to fix weight progression during the careers. If every recruit randomly gained between 0 and 4% weight each year that wouldn't be realistic either though. Weight progression should ideally be a hidden value like Potential attached to each individual recruit. Some guys can gain weight while others can't. That should allow for still having guys like Desean Jackson graduate at roughly the same weight as he came in but also allow for others who started off as WRs to gain so much bulk they get moved to TE or LB to DE. EDIT: Oops, I see someone already brought up my point. I forgot to hit send and Vanderbiltfan kinda stole my point in the meantime

We decided it would be better to represent senior weights since they don't gain weight realistically.

[BenGerman]

Just another reason a global editor would have won over so many hearts here at OS.