It's 2014, And Madden's AI Is Still Playing on Rookie

[tanchl]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheRealHST

Why do people think 2K would magically fix this after not making a football game in 6 or 7 years, like they will just swoop and and solve everything. Doesnt work that way just look at NBA Live playing catch up.

You have missed the point entirely. It's about the competition. 2k could just release their game from '04 or '07 and it would be good enough. When competitors are forced to "one-up" one another, it's only going to benefit the consumer. We video game consumers have been absolutely fleeced these past 10 years.

[TheRealHST]

Quote: Originally Posted by tanchl

You have missed the point entirely. It's about the competition. 2k could just release their game from '04 or '07 and it would be good enough. When competitors are forced to "one-up" one another, it's only going to benefit the consumer. We video game consumers have been absolutely fleeced these past 10 years.

True but 2K basketball has competition and people here are still saying its broken every chance they get.

[Fist Of Kings]

Quote: Originally Posted by tanchl

You have missed the point entirely. It's about the competition. 2k could just release their game from '04 or '07 and it would be good enough. When competitors are forced to "one-up" one another, it's only going to benefit the consumer. We video game consumers have been absolutely fleeced these past 10 years.

Exactly, and the 'fixes'(if we get them and if they work) are probably a lot slower since they are the only company that can make nfl games and have milked that license for all it's worth.

Despite being a known problem, look how long it has taken ea to address wr/db interactions...which they are saving for madden 16. Then they came out and dismiss the obvious qb holding on to the ball problem as an issue. I wouldn't deal with this mess if there were competition, I'd just play the other game. Live, like Madden has also been terrible, but they've canceled games because it's competitor were so far ahead and able to put out good games. The only reason madden hasn't done this is that there is no competition. You either play madden, or nothing at all.

[Trackball]

Why should they fix this?

Who's going to compete?



/cynicmode

[fistofrage]

Quote: Originally Posted by MMChrisS

Things are bad when you’re practically begging for the CPU to put up a stop. It was the 12th time that drive I had run the same play: HB Dive right up the center. My Eagles had a significant lead, and I wanted the opposing defense to force me to pass the ball. As you may have already guessed, that never came to fruition. On that 12th play, LeSean McCoy cruised into the endzone for a touchdown. Why was it so easy? Because despite my repetition in the playcalling, the CPU refused to stack the box. Better yet, they would often spread their defensive line in a QB contain. Why? Why wouldn’t they try and stop me, when I’m making it so very easy for them? The answer is simple: Madden’s AI doesn’t adapt. This is more prevalent in the playcalling than anywhere else, and it’s especially noticeable as the game carries on. No matter the score, no matter the time left on the clock, the CPU fails to adapt defensively. What a shame it is, that in the year 2014 we still have to abide by house rules and dumb ourselves down to the CPU’s level. It’s 2014, and Madden’s AI is still wrong.

I agree with your comments on this issue, the lack of penalties, and other issues. My question in why did you give it such a high score?

The game honestly deserves around a 5. This is 2014, the franchise has been around 20 years and this still feels like a first or second year effort.

[simcity24]

I like the picture that says corner the market and refuse to innovate because that is the number one problem with the Madden franchise. They have no comp so they literally fail to put things in the game or fix elements of the game that are glaring issues for everyday gamers.

The only thing we can do is adjust sliders. I personally have found a set of sliders that fit me, to make every game losable but still win most games with a good team (CFM - Seahawks). Turn down tackling, turn up blocking, decrease defensive reaction time, coverage, and interceptions. Next I think I will have to decrease CPU QB accuracy but I don't because then every game will be too easy to win.

[simcity24]

The challenge system is totally broken they might as well remove it if they cant make it work better than this. Every challenged play is pre determined and the same either way its easily a fumble way after player hits the ground or it isnt even challenged.

Penalties are a joke. I have to turn them up but even with Pass interference set to 85, its never called. Guess I'll try for 100 lol

[bxgoods]

I didn't notice this, I think the AI is too hard to be honest. Especially playing on All Maddden, I get my butt handed to me by the CPU.