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The JareBear · 07-28-2016, 02:02 PM

I'm not saying I agree or disagree but I think what Von did in the playoffs probably helped him keep his top spot.

There's a little more to it than just overall sacks. I'm not trying to be "that guy" but not all stat lines are created equal. I also couldn't disagree more with "numbers should be better because he's on a better team." I think there are numerous examples in the league where that logic gets destroyed.

If anything, other players like Ware, Wolfe, and Jackson (Wolfe and Malik got paid) have better numbers because of Von. We have two young guys (Shaq Barrett and Shane Ray) who are explosive pass rushers as well. A lot of that is the Von effect. Definitely helps our secondary too

I think there's a lot of things you gotta look at, not just one regular seasons sack total.

No matter what I say I'm probably gonna come off as a homer, and I probably am a homer, so I admit that.

Yazan Gable · 07-28-2016, 02:07 PM

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	The list isn't for the past year only. Its going forward. Its the best players entering the next season. Hence why the retired players are not on the list...

And we have this plethora of 2015 Clay Matthews outside linebacker footage to tell us that he's going to be a top 5 outside linebacker.

manEATgod · 07-28-2016, 02:10 PM

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	McPhee I don't watch enough to rate honestly.

McPhee plays OLB, DE, and DT. At least he did for us in Baltimore. He deserves to be on this list without a doubt. He's much stronger than the rest of these guys but still has great pass rushing moves.

The JareBear · 07-28-2016, 02:12 PM

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	McPhee plays OLB, DE, and DT. At least he did for us in Baltimore. He deserves to be on this list without a doubt. He's much stronger than the rest of these guys but still has great pass rushing moves.

I agree, he's a great player and I'm glad he got respect

Mauer4MVP · 07-28-2016, 02:21 PM

Clay was good when he was healthy. He was flat out invisible for way too many games last year and I honestly think his best days are behind him.

He went two games without a tackle. That shouldn't be possible for a top 5 linebacker.

SolidSquid · 07-28-2016, 02:29 PM

Lavonte David not even in the 90s? Where's Thomas Davis? And what's Deandre Levy rated? Maybe next year we can finall separate 3-4 and 4-3 OLBs.

Dcooks · 07-28-2016, 02:36 PM

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	Lavonte David not even in the 90s? Where's Thomas Davis? And what's Deandre Levy rated? Maybe next year we can finall separate 3-4 and 4-3 OLBs.

Lavonte im sure is a ILB, and will probably be a top 3 ILB along with Luke and Bowman. Thomas Davis was a big exclusion. Idk why he doesn't get any love. Levy is great too. Didn't follow him much this season though.

SolidSquid · 07-28-2016, 03:24 PM

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	Lavonte im sure is a ILB, and will probably be a top 3 ILB along with Luke and Bowman. Thomas Davis was a big exclusion. Idk why he doesn't get any love. Levy is great too. Didn't follow him much this season though.

Why would Lavonte be an inside linebacker?

07-28-2016, 02:02 PM	#17
The JareBear Be Good To One Another OVR: 49 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Colorado Posts: 11,574 Blog Entries: 17	Re: Madden NFL 17 Player Ratings - Top 5 Outside Linebackers I'm not saying I agree or disagree but I think what Von did in the playoffs probably helped him keep his top spot. There's a little more to it than just overall sacks. I'm not trying to be "that guy" but not all stat lines are created equal. I also couldn't disagree more with "numbers should be better because he's on a better team." I think there are numerous examples in the league where that logic gets destroyed. If anything, other players like Ware, Wolfe, and Jackson (Wolfe and Malik got paid) have better numbers because of Von. We have two young guys (Shaq Barrett and Shane Ray) who are explosive pass rushers as well. A lot of that is the Von effect. Definitely helps our secondary too I think there's a lot of things you gotta look at, not just one regular seasons sack total. No matter what I say I'm probably gonna come off as a homer, and I probably am a homer, so I admit that. underdog13 likes this. __________________ "Successful people do not celebrate in the adversity or misfortune of others." OS Blog The Tortured Mind Of A Rockies Fan. In Arenado I Trust. Last edited by The JareBear; 07-28-2016 at 03:10 PM.

07-28-2016, 02:21 PM	#21
Mauer4MVP MVP OVR: 1 Join Date: Mar 2010	Re: Madden NFL 17 Player Ratings - Top 5 Outside Linebackers Clay was good when he was healthy. He was flat out invisible for way too many games last year and I honestly think his best days are behind him. He went two games without a tackle. That shouldn't be possible for a top 5 linebacker.

07-28-2016, 02:29 PM	#22
SolidSquid MVP OVR: 0 Join Date: Aug 2014	Re: Madden NFL 17 Player Ratings - Top 5 Outside Linebackers Lavonte David not even in the 90s? Where's Thomas Davis? And what's Deandre Levy rated? Maybe next year we can finall separate 3-4 and 4-3 OLBs. briz1046, DeuceDouglas and The JareBear like this.

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