MADDEN 24 A “MAKE OR BREAK” RELEASE FOR MANAGEMENT

[MizzouRah]

Link....

https://insider-gaming.com/madden-24...break-release/

[ricket]

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Alot of work ahead for this crew to get it right. When I play Madden or NHL I feel like I'm playing a game developed by a large corporation still capitalizing off the brand name of 20 years ago.

On the flip side when I play NBA 2K or MLB The Show I feel like I'm playing a game developed by fans of the sport who have a passion to capture as many details possible, leaving no stone unturned. Is it 100 percent, of course not, but look at how far each of these franchises have come over years.

[Artman22]

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I would never celebrate anyone losing their jobs, but sadly this game has been bad for many years now and something needs to change. Maybe a new developer isn’t the worse thing.


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[roadman]

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Not sure about the now or never mentality, I will believe it when I see it.

Good find Mizzou.

Tight lipped, yeah, normally, it's tight lipped till June or July on new

Madden releases.

[jfsolo]

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Given how most people here seemingly aren't going to be buying M24 anyway, I would guess that folks might want it to have a lot of problems again so that management, it won't be a new development team, would be replaced with the hopes that new management would focus more on the things that they care about, which isn't necessarily a likely occurrence IMO.

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[prey2god]

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This game shouldn’t feel as if it was near completed at the end of the season. That’s one of the biggest issues. They fail to QA this game hitting it hard day and night prior to going live expecting us instead to QA/beta test it while they “address” these issues we found with patch after patch.

This is a really bad business model and it’s driving us as consumers away. Now that Maximum Football is coming out with a free to play game using unreal engine 5 to boot, addressing things fans were asking for in Madden, something really must’ve lit a fire up their asses.

[oneamongthefence]

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Good to see contract management potentially being a focus.

The mode really needs some QOL improvements for M24. Things like fatigue fixed and CPU scenarios. But I think finally the continued discourse from fans from every mode is catching up to them. Even MUT has had a lot of issues and they're continually giving players free cards to make up for it.

I think management is the issue. The allocation of resources just isn't there to ensure a successful product along with the mangled mess of a code.

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[Grey_Osprey]

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"...For Franchise mode, sources say that the developers feel the mode is almost there with smaller additions — aside from the larger fixes to the database issues — being what’s needed to keep players invested. That said, things like better contract management is said to be one of the higher priorities for the mode, though it’s unclear if it will be ready for Madden 24."

Almost there? Smaller additions being what's needed to keep players invested? SMH.

[cch99]

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Almost there? Smaller additions being what's needed to keep players invested? SMH.

That was exactly my thought. Are you kidding me.



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[PhishIsGood]

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"...For Franchise mode, sources say that the developers feel the mode is almost there with smaller additions — aside from the larger fixes to the database issues — being what’s needed to keep players invested. That said, things like better contract management is said to be one of the higher priorities for the mode, though it’s unclear if it will be ready for Madden 24."

Almost there? Smaller additions being what's needed to keep players invested? SMH.

Whaaaaaat?

They think franchise mode is almost there?

lolololololololol

Man, I have no hope for the future of this game...

-Same relocation cities and God-awful relocation uniforms since 2012. Unchanged for a DECADE!

-Same sim stats issues w mobile QB’s not running and all/most sacks go to right end and not left. FG %’s always way lower than real-life.

-Still can’t front/back load contracts or offer re-structures. This type of stuff has been in others games for YEARS.

-Why no penalties in “sim mode”? Why even have multiple modes if they’re all the same?

-League news is stale and uninspired along with lack of “half-time shows” like other games.

-For 3 years now we have a file save corruption issue for offline save file where they corrupt around 5 years in. You lose it all. I’m sorry how online franchise owners lost their franchises and I’m glad they are being offered 50% off…. But I have lost a franchise I poured hours into and no offer for me. Just another giant shaft from EA’s franchise mode if you ask me.

Man… I can’t believe they actually think it is “close.”

This is why I always wait a couple months after release and find a used copy somewhere for cheap. It’s just not worth buying a game when I play a mode that is chronically ignored and only gets half-baked updates.

They also lie. Last year we were supposed to get “3 major content updates post release.” This year’s game were were promised another substantial patch for offline franchise. Yeah… neither ever happened. Why should I believe the lies now?

Woof.

[Hooe]

MADDEN 24 A “MAKE OR BREAK” RELEASE FOR MANAGEMENT

I honestly don’t really understand why next year would be “make or break”. I am not under the impression that this is how game studios owned by major publishers working on massive popular IPs operate.

Taking this article at face value, though:

For Franchise mode, sources say that the developers feel the mode is almost there with smaller additions — aside from the larger fixes to the database issues — being what’s needed to keep players invested. That said, things like better contract management is said to be one of the higher priorities for the mode, though it’s unclear if it will be ready for Madden 24.

I would love to know what this source considers a “smaller” addition because there are significant components of real life NFL team building which still aren’t represented in Madden.

Contract mechanics would be a correct area of focus because that’s still woefully out of date. I know I’ve said this over and over again but things like compensatory draft picks, contract restructures, annual roster bonuses (as opposed to only money guaranteed at signing), void years, no trade clauses, the transition tag, etc. are all still absent from Madden. Restricted free agency has been missing since the PS2 era. Exclusive rights free agency has never been included. CPU trade AI has no awareness of or intelligence about the salary cap so making it agree to trades which put its teams underwater is easy and frequent. Heck, the game doesn’t even enforce the salary cap; you’re allowed to be over the cap as long as you don’t sign anyone, which is a slapdash solution to CPU teams not handling their cap business properly.

I would not characterize anything in that minor wall of text I just wrote as a “minor addition”. So I would love to hear the context of the idea that Franchise mode is “close”.

And this doesn’t even address the mode’s single-greatest shortcoming in that it doesn’t tell good stories which would keep players (especially offline solo players) invested. I actually enjoy the XP and Skill Points system as a game-y player progression mechanic, but that can’t be the only hook. The presentation of the NFL in real life is comprised of interweaving narratives and storylines which doesn’t always have clean resolutions, winners, or losers. It is a soap opera for jocks. That narrative hook which makes the NFL such a big draw throughout the entire calendar year is not included in Madden literally at all.

[kjcheezhead]

MADDEN 24 A “MAKE OR BREAK” RELEASE FOR MANAGEMENT

I would love this to be true but I don’t see any reason to believe it. I disliked this game from the moment I tried the beta after skipping 22 and barely touching 21. For me, it’s been going in the wrong direction since it went to ps5.

Fact is that even with the bad reception, the glitches, the corrupted files deleting franchises, Madden 23 was still the 3rd highest selling game in the US in 2022. There is no make or break, it’s too big to fail. Madden 24 can release in a worse state with no additions to single player modes and it will be in the top 5 in sales regardless.


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[kingsofthevalley]

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You guys are throwing me off with the negative comments. There is no debate that the ‘on the field play’ of Madden 23 is the absolute BEST that it’s ever been.

I’ve said it a few times, but I’ll state once more for members of the site that may not be familiar with my stance on Madden ….. Been a player since the sega genesis days, and I was generally disappointed with the game after the move from PS2 (pretty much the last 10 years, always found ways to enjoy it however).

With that background stated, I say again, Madden 23 is the bees knees and I have no doubt that 24 is going to be the most solid football title ever created.

[Hammerhunker]

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"That said, things like better contract management is said to be one of the higher priorities for the mode, though it’s unclear if it will be ready for Madden 24."

The last part says it all: It's a make or break year but it's unclear if it will be ready for Madden 24. Make or break to me means "all hands on deck", "Press! Press! Press (in the voice of a screaming basketball coach)", or some sort of version of Bluto's pep talk in Animal House.

As I have posted before, Madden is meeting EA's and the NFL's expectation with its 23 year streak of being the top selling game of its launch month and beyond. The game sells, it is a cultural darling for the streamers and tournament players. Nothing will take this game down.

All EA is doing is some minor damage control with the dispersion of its distortion of the reality field.

[Momoney168]

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You guys are throwing me off with the negative comments. There is no debate that the ‘on the field play’ of Madden 23 is the absolute BEST that it’s ever been.



I’ve said it a few times, but I’ll state once more for members of the site that may not be familiar with my stance on Madden ….. Been a player since the sega genesis days, and I was generally disappointed with the game after the move from PS2 (pretty much the last 10 years, always found ways to enjoy it however).



With that background stated, I say again, Madden 23 is the bees knees and I have no doubt that 24 is going to be the most solid football title ever created.

23 gameplay was amazing although the last patch changed some OL/DL interactions. If they can separate those interactions like they did WR/DBs this year it would go a long way. But I agree that 23 on field gameplay was the best in a long time. More off field items are needed to get franchise where it needs to be.