How to rebuild the Golden State Warriors?

[lobcityclippers]

What is the best way to build the Warriors? Just curious, might control them eventually.

[noah1212]

Re: How to rebuild the Golden State Warriors?

why would you rebuild the warriors? They need a 6th man and thats it if you ask me. Maybe get a free agent like JR smith?

[snowfish]

Re: How to rebuild the Golden State Warriors?

I would start with trading away Monta Ellis and David Lee. Two good players for their position, but undersized, overpaid, and just not the type of personnel that I prefer. Getting a tough all-around shooting guard complements Curry well...someone like Aaron Afflalo. Then looking for a low post threat, which GS has been lacking for...ever now. Udoh is a wonderful player off the bench, but someone like Al Jefferson would look nice in the starting line-up. You might have to give up some draft picks and some other players...but you'd end up with something like this:

Steph Curry / Charles Jenkins
Aaron Afflalo / Brandon Rush / Klay Thompson
Dorrell Wright / Klay Thompson?
Al Jefferson / Ekpe Udoh
Andris Biendrens / Kwame Brown

Not exactly championship material though...but contenders nonetheless.

[snowfish]

Re: How to rebuild the Golden State Warriors?

why would you rebuild the warriors? They need a 6th man and thats it if you ask me. Maybe get a free agent like JR smith?

because their current roster, although talented, just doesn't match up well with the other contenders in the league. their roster is built to play fast, high scoring, loose defense small ball. their new coach wants a more defensive mentality...mentality won't cut it when ability isnt present.

[RedmanR]

Re: How to rebuild the Golden State Warriors?

Why is everyone creating threads like this. It's seems pretty pointless to have the game in front of you while asking others how would they run your team. Make your own moves and experiences, you don't like the route your team is taking start over. It's not like we're stuck with specific teams anyway. . .

Just saying. . . next there will be threads started regarding how to rebuild D-League teams

[Sundown]

because their current roster, although talented, just doesn't match up well with the other contenders in the league. their roster is built to play fast, high scoring, loose defense small ball. their new coach wants a more defensive mentality...mentality won't cut it when ability isnt present.

As far as "ability isn't present", have you been watching the last five games? Warriors either beat teams (including the Bulls and Knicks) or stayed in it with defense even when shots weren't falling.

Their second unit is also built to be defensive minded with Rush, Udoh, McQuire, Brown, and Klay's defense isn't bad either. So they've got players able to do it, and it seems like the starters are buying in, too.

Monta is hardly overpaid but I can appreciate how some might prefer a larger guard at the 2. Lee's making his money this season so far, even defensively, but there may be other options at his salary. What he adds in real life BBall IQ, court vision, and playmaking doesn't translate in 2K. You might look to see what you can do with Brown's 7M expiring (don't know of 2k trade logic sees that as valuable), or see how you can upgrade from Biedrins, who's easily the weakest starting link. Even he's starting to play well again though.

[snowfish]

Re: How to rebuild the Golden State Warriors?

As far as "ability isn't present", have you been watching the last five games? Warriors either beat teams (including the Bulls and Knicks) or stayed in it with defense even when shots weren't falling.

Their second unit is also built to be defensive minded with Rush, Udoh, McQuire, Brown, and Klay's defense isn't bad either. So they've got players able to do it, and it seems like the starters are buying in, too.

Monta is hardly overpaid but I can appreciate how some might prefer a larger guard at the 2. Lee's making his money this season so far, even defensively, but there may be other options at his salary. What he adds in real life BBall IQ, court vision, and playmaking doesn't translate in 2K. You might look to see what you can do with Brown's 7M expiring (don't know of 2k trade logic sees that as valuable), or see how you can upgrade from Biedrins, who's easily the weakest starting link. Even he's starting to play well again though.

yea. i have seen their games. i may have spoken too soon, but i still believe that they are lacking in defense. when the real contenders come to town, do you think the warriors will be able to hang? more so, what about a seven game series? that's where size comes into play, because basketball is a game of match ups.

you're right. monta is NOT overpaid. he's good, and worth the 11 or whatever million he gets per year. but as much as ppl say he's this good or that good, this talented and this much more mature, he simply doesn't fit playing next to curry, defensively. offensively, they're both fast, skilled and dangerous...but they're both too small. not too short...too small. they have no bulk, no size. how are they going to guard the bigger guards? deficiencies inevitably show up, eventually.

but like i said, i may have spoken too soon. jury is still out. i would absolutely HOPE that we can continue to play this way, but with the history of the warriors, i need to see it to believe it.

and why post these threads on these forums? for discussion. that's what's so fun about it. we get to discuss these topics and trade opinions. if you have nothing constructive to post, then go read and respond to another thread that DOES interest you.

[Sundown]

Re: How to rebuild the Golden State Warriors?

yea. i have seen their games. i may have spoken too soon, but i still believe that they are lacking in defense. when the real contenders come to town, do you think the warriors will be able to hang?

I think the Bulls at Oracle is sort of the definition of "contenders coming to town". Knicks missing their point guard is a different story though, but I'm glad our bigs still managed to limit their shooting and rebounding. We lost the Clippers game because all three of our best shooters couldn't hit the broadside of a barn. I don't think that's going to happen many nights, and the Knicks game showed team defense gives us a chance when we do.

I agree a small Monta is problematic, especially next to Curry (I'm not one of those who sees Monta as a point guard-- he's a 2 that's able to make plays). Still both of them are huge assets and I'd really look to upgrade the front court (mainly center) before trading either, unless you can trade Monta or Curry for a real difference maker (in that order). Since we're talking 2K, I suppose you could do something unrealistic like having Monta come off the bench so you often have a full sized 2 in Rush or Klay, and have moments where Monta and Curry are together for the one-two punch. And you can also try to bamboozle the CPU into an upgrade for Biedrins.

Hopeful this season, but the real test is on the road. 2K doesn't really model Jackon's apparent ability (from the few games we've seen) to get players with limitations to buy in and perform. It'd be interesting if it gave certain coaches "buffs" to player ability.

[lebron james]

Re: How to rebuild the Golden State Warriors?

start by getting rid of those horrible uniforms and that ugly court and you'll be on your way to a championship....

[tetoleetd]

Re: How to rebuild the Golden State Warriors?

i traded david lee, monta ellis, kwame brown and 2013 first round pick

for

al horford, joe johnson, pachulia and 2012 first round pick.

then i traded andres biedrins for udonis haslem and joel anthony.

so my lineup is:

pg:steph curry, ish smith
sg johnson/klay thompson/brandon rush
sf:dorell wright/mcguire/thompson or rush
pf:haslem/udoh/josh powell(FA)
c:horford/pachulia/joel anthony

i think horford is better than lee and haslem is better than biedrins, so the bigs are improved here. i also still have udoh to develop to take over for haslem. pachulia is just as good as biedrins or brown so i didnt lose much in the depth area. horford is young and has A+ potential. i also have 2 first round picks in the draft and can use both of them or try to move up in the draft with them.

[jmgbaile]

Re: How to rebuild the Golden State Warriors?

BRING JEREMY LIN BACK. DO WHATEVER YOU MUST.

But in all seriousness, the Warriors are in an okay rebuilding position video game-wise. They get to keep their pick in the game (right?), and the real 2012 draft seems to be pretty deep. As snowfish said, David Lee and Monta Ellis take up considerable cap room, as does Andris Biedrins with all of his performance woes (last year's, at least).
I think one quick move to make would be Ellis for Iguodala, which was actually heavily discussed in April. If you're going for realism, Lee and Biedrins are nigh immovable. But if not, you could package one with Klay Thompson and try to net a bona fide center, such as Kendrick Perkins.

[Vni]

Re: How to rebuild the Golden State Warriors?

Why is everyone creating threads like this. It's seems pretty pointless to have the game in front of you while asking others how would they run your team. Make your own moves and experiences, you don't like the route your team is taking start over. It's not like we're stuck with specific teams anyway. . .

Just saying. . . next there will be threads started regarding how to rebuild D-League teams

For a guy like me that doesn't know a lot about basketball I find theses threads very interesting.