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Real Time Physics accidently revealed in presentation webcast?
Because I have fewer than 5 posts I can't post the youtube link to today's webcast but if you go to 32:12 of the webcast there is a kickoff. Pay close attention to the tackle particularly #54 on the Steelers. It looks like real time physics to me, there is even a little pile up that would have never happened before.
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Yeah just commented on this in the other thread. Seems clear as day to me - those two Bengals blockers get collected up by the low tackle and it doesn't happen how Madden has always done it - which is a like a bomb explosion. This time it looked like actual momentum physics.
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Originally posted by Broncos86
Something as large as that would've:
A) Been included in both NCAA and Madden
B) Been announced as a big ticket item.
Things such as what you described do not require procedural physics.
If it were a complete engine wide implementation, sure. I don't think there is any chance M13 scraps prerendered tackle animations for real time physics, but it seems in that video on that ST tackle there is definitely some sort of physics calculating going on with those around the tackle.
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Until it set in stone and I see multiple examples, I'm not going to get excited. If I'm not mistaken, EA fed us the physics based ( not real time) tackling a couple of years ago. I believe it was weight induced. I really don't see EA introducing real time physics until PS4/XBOX 720...
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No. I honestly didn't see the webcast but after watching the promos today, it definitely does not have RTP. My only gripe so far after watching everything today is that you can see the poor physics & animations still. You definitely just saw a good animation kick in.
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Originally posted by Jimi XIII
No. I honestly didn't see the webcast but after watching the promos today, it definitely does not have RTP. My only gripe so far after watching everything today is that you can see the poor physics & animations still. You definitely just saw a good animation kick in.
I'd suggest watching it. Not hard - just skip to the time in the video. I agree the tackling engine is not RT based at all but look at how the two Bengals blockers in the path of the tackle react - one falls forward on the tackle and the guy behind him falls on the first Bengal. Definitely not something that was in M12, and it hasn't been talked about so far in the first gameplay showcase, so it's either so minor they won't mention it, or part of the gameplay 2 reveal.
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That level of interaction as not been in Madden thus far. I think it's a good sign some sort of system is in place. Also one of the gang tackles on a pass place shows a nice gang tackle. Where the one defender doesn't slide off, but both remain on the offensive player until he is tackled.
Also doesn't have to be in NCAA. Pro-tak when it was first introduced was not in NCAA 10. Not getting my hopes up, but you can't ignore the obvious footage.
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Yeah, that looked too fluid to just be a "physics-based" system; that looks like a full "physics system". I mean, look how many people are involved in that sequence.
If this turns out to be true, I'ma be like "Thank you, Based God"...
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Yup, I saw this last night and I am THRILLED! Looks like the big gameplay announcement may very well be a physics system which would be MONUMENTAL!
The guy who made that video was also down at community day..... So he probably already knows exactly what is going on. If they do add physics and it WORKS, then this will probably be the best football game ever. I just wish they could have gotten to OL/DL and foot planting and better running animations. That would make this game unbelievable!!
I was originally very upset thinking that the only major change was passing. But if they added physics then I am 100% on board the hype train!!
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Like I said in the other thread, you would be able to tell yesterday if it is in there or not. The game looks better in a lot of areas. I still don't like the sliding and I am really bummed about no combo pass blocking for the OL because that might mean the DL does not have stunts, which IMO sucks big time because the learning curve and putting together defensive schemes might turn out to be very BASIC like years past.
If they have half and qtr slides that work right MIGHT save it for me.
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This appears to be a big step up for Madden, aesthetically at the very least.
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Look at the way #54 leg bends at the end of the tackle, theres definitly some type of physics engine ebing used. Also the 2 Bengal players that fall on top of each other at the end of the tackle is defenitly something we havnt seen yet. They are definitly reacting to whats going on in the field with the other bodies invloved and it is defintly not a canned animation. They kept saying throughout the whole thing that the gameplay isnt final and to excuse any bugs or glitches we see. Im sure they were very carefull not to show too much of any physics engine evidence that would completely give it away. If this is true then im sure its gonna be a blend of previous animations mixed with a blend of physics that they will build on as later Maddens come out.
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