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  • CleveCluby
    Pro
    • Feb 2003
    • 808

    #1

    I'm sorry I just really need to vent, No disrespect intended.

    For me, It's quite simple. Every version of Madden has sucked since Looman has been in charge. The last decent version of Madden was M12.. Madden is forcing you to become a thumb jockey. They have taken away CPU vs CPU where you can truly operate as strictly a Coach. For three years hundreds of players like myself have asked for that feature to be returned. If nothing else, just let us return the controller to the middle and let us watch. Looman has made every excuse possible stating it can't be incorporated in the game, ALTHOUGH IT HAS BEEN THERE FOR YEARS. Has it ever accorded to EA that some of us may be physically handy-capped and can not use a controller well.. BUT we still love to manage a team. I love to use my intelligence, build a team, develop players, create playbooks, set up game plans, and then watch it all play out in front of my eyes. That is also part of FB. EA says they have a coach mode. But I do not know of any coach in FB that has to make the QB throw or run, Kick FG or Punt the ball..Madden also has never fixed issues that has been in the game for years. Sliders, penalties, Stats, Madden is nothing but a Graphic and roster update. They have taken more great features out of the game then they have added, EA is now simply a Monopoly and can do whatever they please. It will remain this way until another company develops a FB game. I will continue to play M12 and thank GOD for the great editing people at OPERATION SPORTS especially PeoplesChampGB that have created the New 15 roster and franchise for DL to xbox and PS3 to keep the game alive. THANK YOU guys.. EA should take a lesson from you.
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  • kcsam
    Pro
    • Feb 2011
    • 676

    #2
    Re: I'm sorry I just really need to vent, No disrespect intended.

    I'm 100% with you. Great post. You've summed it up enough where I'm left with nothing to add.

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    • Vtownwaves
      Banned
      • Jun 2013
      • 142

      #3
      Re: I'm sorry I just really need to vent, No disrespect intended.

      While I agree a true coach mode is necessary, whats there is close enough for me until it gets there. I Stick with pocket passer qbs so you dont have to complain about them never scrambling. I Draft worse kickers if you dont want to make every fg or coffin every punt. But everything else can be done by the computer once the ball is hiked. Not only that, but I can decide the cadence, I can make hot route adjustments and audibles if need be.

      I know this isnt optimal and it is upsetting this hasnt been fixed. But josh has done an incredible job improving the depth of madden with the schemes added from hc09. They incorporated actual physics the games, and other than cpu vs cpu and a few tedious issues, plays amazing. I love it, especially on all madden sliders tweaked to 25 for everything(both cpu and human) except the kicking sliders, which are 50 fgp 25 fga 50pp 100 pa 50 ko. 50 injury and fatigue, normal speed, 0 threshold(so dl dont catch runaway rbs). Just set the auto subs high for positions you want to rotate more and low for the ones who shouldnt come out unless dying from exhaustion.

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      • GreenGlen
        Pro
        • Nov 2002
        • 639

        #4
        Re: I'm sorry I just really need to vent, No disrespect intended.

        Vtown, I liked that slider set for 25, have you checked it in 15?

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        • AndresTrujillo1
          Rookie
          • Aug 2014
          • 94

          #5
          Re: I'm sorry I just really need to vent, No disrespect intended.

          Great post, and honestly, the graphics are only getting worse in my opinion.

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          • powerandall
            Rookie
            • Sep 2014
            • 17

            #6
            Re: I'm sorry I just really need to vent, No disrespect intended.

            Man, I've been playing 360 on my computer for the past few days. Just popped in Madden 11... it looks BETTER than 25 on my monitor... wtf...

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            • PatsSB2015
              Banned
              • May 2014
              • 427

              #7
              Re: I'm sorry I just really need to vent, No disrespect intended.

              Originally posted by CleveCluby
              For me, It's quite simple. Every version of Madden has sucked since Looman has been in charge. The last decent version of Madden was M12.. Madden is forcing you to become a thumb jockey. They have taken away CPU vs CPU where you can truly operate as strictly a Coach. For three years hundreds of players like myself have asked for that feature to be returned. If nothing else, just let us return the controller to the middle and let us watch. Looman has made every excuse possible stating it can't be incorporated in the game, ALTHOUGH IT HAS BEEN THERE FOR YEARS. Has it ever accorded to EA that some of us may be physically handy-capped and can not use a controller well.. BUT we still love to manage a team. I love to use my intelligence, build a team, develop players, create playbooks, set up game plans, and then watch it all play out in front of my eyes. That is also part of FB. EA says they have a coach mode. But I do not know of any coach in FB that has to make the QB throw or run, Kick FG or Punt the ball..Madden also has never fixed issues that has been in the game for years. Sliders, penalties, Stats, Madden is nothing but a Graphic and roster update. They have taken more great features out of the game then they have added, EA is now simply a Monopoly and can do whatever they please. It will remain this way until another company develops a FB game. I will continue to play M12 and thank GOD for the great editing people at OPERATION SPORTS especially PeoplesChampGB that have created the New 15 roster and franchise for DL to xbox and PS3 to keep the game alive. THANK YOU guys.. EA should take a lesson from you.
              I think you wrote what is represented by a lot of people. In my opinion, Looman thinks he's making a game that we want, but in reality, he's making the game he wants. CPU vs. CPU is possible as the workaround can attest. For three years, we demanded it back in and he refused to put it back in.

              Does anyone know how Madden did in its first week in sales?

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              • NYBorn81
                Pro
                • Aug 2007
                • 506

                #8
                Re: I'm sorry I just really need to vent, No disrespect intended.

                Originally posted by AndresTrujillo1
                Great post, and honestly, the graphics are only getting worse in my opinion.
                Well, that may be because you're playing on a graphically outdated system. The graphics are great and are an improvement to last years version, when it comes to current-gen systems.

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                • gr18
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 2279

                  #9
                  Re: I'm sorry I just really need to vent, No disrespect intended.

                  I would really like to see the Coach mode guys get what they want but would have to say that if I played that way would be looking at other,better options.Madden has always been lacking as a good football management game.Head Coach 09 has updated rosters and is much better in this regard other than graphics and there are several PC games that aren't as visual but give you far,far more depth as a management sim.I play the games and have been on the fence about going this way to get something that gives you more sim realism than any version of Madden ever will.

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                  • ksteward84
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2014
                    • 312

                    #10
                    Re: I'm sorry I just really need to vent, No disrespect intended.

                    I remember NFL Head Coach was difficult as hell. I though it would be really fun, but in practice it was just kind of a cluster. I never tried HC'09 though.
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                    • gr18
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 2279

                      #11
                      Re: I'm sorry I just really need to vent, No disrespect intended.

                      Originally posted by ksteward84
                      I remember NFL Head Coach was difficult as hell. I though it would be really fun, but in practice it was just kind of a cluster. I never tried HC'09 though.
                      HC09 was way better than the first one that came out I believe around 06.It's outdated graphically but as far as a team management NFL game,it's the best on a console.

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                      • powerandall
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 17

                        #12
                        Re: I'm sorry I just really need to vent, No disrespect intended.

                        Originally posted by gr18
                        HC09 was way better than the first one that came out I believe around 06.It's outdated graphically but as far as a team management NFL game,it's the best on a console.
                        That game is amazing but in the end I think I didn't have enough players or something like that so the game froze on me.

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                        • Ueauvan
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 1634

                          #13
                          Re: I'm sorry I just really need to vent, No disrespect intended.

                          if you added some stuff from hc06 and lots from hc09
                          added the flex from madden 08 (especially on pc) and the mods available, training camp etc
                          weekly prep and half time and round up like 2k5

                          editable rosters like pup/nfi/ir/ir to return etc

                          then it would be closer, coach mode from ncaa14 and stuff like form subs from lots of places ...

                          all has been done before, nearly all by EA themselves

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                          • Herky
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                            • Jun 2004
                            • 4720

                            #14
                            Re: I'm sorry I just really need to vent, No disrespect intended.

                            I've had some major problems with the Madden crew for several years now and the OP nailed it.
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                            • ..GameOver..
                              Pro
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 575

                              #15
                              Re: I'm sorry I just really need to vent, No disrespect intended.

                              I understand your frustration. I was a huge fan of the Head Coach series and would love to see them implement a fully controlled cpu vs. cpu experience. Apparently, gamers looking for something like this are not their target market.

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