M16 v. FBG: The Ratings Release Discussion Thread

[DCEBB2001]

In lieu of every Madden 16 positional ratings thread being turned into EA v. FBG, I started this thread to continue the "enthusiastic" discussion at the recommendation of the OS moderators.

Here are the EA ratings that have been released, and the FBG counterparts. Feel free to critically discuss. Keep it on topic. Keep it respectful. Also, please read the FBG FAQ page to gain an idea of the context in the FBG system.

http://www.fbgratings.com/members/faqs.php

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EA's Top 6 QBs:

• Aaron Rodgers (99 OVR)
• Tom Brady (97 OVR)
• Drew Brees (95 OVR)
• Ben Roethlisberger (95 OVR)
• Andrew Luck (94 OVR)
• Tony Romo (93 OVR)

FBG's Top 6 QBs:

• Aaron Rodgers (94 OVR)
• Andrew Luck (86 OVR)
• Drew Brees (81 OVR)
• Joe Flacco (77 OVR)
• Russell Wilson (75 OVR)
• Ben Roethlisberger (74 OVR)

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EA's Top 5 RBs:

• Marshawn Lynch (96 OVR)
• Adrian Peterson (95 OVR)
• Jamaal Charles (94 OVR)
• DeMarco Murray (94 OVR)
• Le'Veon Bell (94 OVR)

FBG's Top 5 RBs:

• LeSean McCoy (76 OVR)
• DeMarco Murray (75 OVR)
• Jamaal Charles (75 OVR)
• Marshawn Lynch (75 OVR)
• Le'Veon Bell (74 OVR)

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EA's Top 5 WRs:

• Antonio Brown (97 OVR)
• Dez Bryant (96 OVR)
• Calvin Johnson (95 OVR)
• Odell Beckham Jr. (94 OVR)
• Julio Jones (94 OVR)

FBG's Top 5 WRs:

• Dez Bryant (89 OVR)
• Antonio Brown (85 OVR)
• Brandon Marshall (84 OVR)
• Demaryius Thomas (83 OVR)
• Jordy Nelson (80 OVR)

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EA's Top 5 TEs:

• Rob Gronkowski (99 OVR)
• Jimmy Graham (95 OVR)
• Jason Witten (93 OVR)
• Greg Olsen (92 OVR)
• Travis Kelce (91 OVR)

FBG's Top 5 TEs:

• Rob Gronkowski (82 OVR)
• Jimmy Graham (78 OVR)
• Greg Olsen (73 OVR)
• Jason Witten (71 OVR)
• Jordan Cameron (68 OVR)

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EA's Top 7 OL:

• Marhsal Yanda (98 OVR)
• Josh Sitton (97 OVR)
• Jason Peters (96 OVR)
• Nick Mangold (95 OVR)
• Andrew Whitworth (95 OVR)
• Evan Mathis (95 OVR)
• Joe Thomas (95 OVR)

FBG's Top 7 OL:

• Joe Staley (82 OVR)
• Jason Peters (77 OVR)
• Eric Wood (77 OVR)
• Jared Veldheer (76 OVR)
• D'Brickashaw Ferguson (76 OVR)
• Joe Thomas (75 OVR)
• Tyron Smith (75 OVR)

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EA's Top 7 ILBs:

• Luke Kuechly (96 OVR)
• Navorro Bowman (93 OVR)
• Bobby Wagner (92 OVR)
• Clay Matthews (90 OVR)
• Daryl Smith (90 OVR)
• Lawrence Timmons (90 OVR)
• Karlos Dansby (90 OVR)

FBG's Top 7 ILBs:

• Luke Kuechly (80 OVR)
• Clay Matthews (77 OVR)
• C.J. Mosley (72 OVR)
• Lawrence Timmons (71 OVR)
• David Harris (71 OVR)
• Bobby Wagner (70 OVR)
• James Laurinaitis (70 OVR)

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EA's Top 5 OLBs:

• Von Miller (97 OVR)
• Justin Houston (97 OVR)
• Terrell Suggs (93 OVR)
• Dont'a Hightower (93 OVR)
• Deandre Levy (93 OVR)

FBG's Top 5 OLBs:

• Tamba Hali (99 OVR)
• Terrell Suggs (81 OVR)
• Levonte David (74 OVR)
• Chad Greenway (73 OVR)
• Von Miller (71 OVR)

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EA's Top 5 DEs:

• J.J. Watt (99 OVR)
• Muhammad Wilkerson (96 OVR)
• Michael Bennett (95 OVR)
• Calais Campbell (95 OVR)
• Cameron Wake (94 OVR)

FBG's Top 5 DEs:

• J.J. Watt (99 OVR)
• Cameron Wake (78 OVR)
• Mario Williams (75 OVR)
• Olivier Vernon (72 OVR)
• Charles Johnson (71 OVR)

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EA's Top 6 DTs:

• Ndamukong Suh (96 OVR)
• Gerald McCoy (95 OVR)
• Marcell Dareus (94 OVR)
• Kyle Williams (93 OVR)
• Aaron Donald (92 OVR)
• Haloti Ngata (92 OVR)

FBG's Top 6 DTs:

• Haloti Ngata (81 OVR)
• Ndamukong Suh (79 OVR)
• Marcell Dareus (74 OVR)
• Gerald McCoy (69 OVR)
• Brandon Mebane (68 OVR)
• Nick Hayden (68 OVR)

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EA's Top 5 CBs:

• Richard Sherman (97 OVR)
• Darelle Revis (97 OVR)
• Vontae Davis (95 OVR)
• Chris Harris (94 OVR)
• Sean Smith (91 OVR)

FBG's Top 5 CBs:

• Richard Sherman (94 OVR)
• Darelle Revis (89 OVR)
• Patrick Peterson (81 OVR)
• Tramon Williams (72 OVR)
• Joe Haden (72 OVR)

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EA's Top 5 Ss:

• E. Weddle (96 OVR)
• E. Thomas (95 OVR)
• Kam Chancellor (94 OVR)
• D. McCourty (94 OVR)
• H. Smith (93 OVR)

FBG's Top 5 Ss:

• Jairus Byrd (72 OVR)
• Donte Whitner (72 OVR)
• Morgan Burnett (71 OVR)
• Eric Weddle (70 OVR)
• Glover Quinn (69 OVR)

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EA's Top 5 Ks

• Jason Tucker (95 ovr)
• Stephen Gostkowski (95 ovr)
• Dan Bailey (94 ovr)
• Matt Bryant (91 ovr)
• Phil Dawson (91 ovr)

FBG's Top 5 Ks:

• Stephen Gostkowski (72 ovr)
• Robbie Gould (70 OVR)
• Phil Dawson (69 ovr)
• Greg Zeurlein (69 OVR)
• Mason Crosby (68 OVR)

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EA's Top 5 Ps

• Pat McAfee (95 ovr)
• Johnny Hekker (93 ovr)
• Matt Bosher (92 ovr)
• Thomas Morstead (91 ovr)
• Sam Martin (91 ovr)

FBG's Top 5 Ps:

• Sam Koch (75 ovr)
• Dustin Colquitt (74 OVR)
• Shane Lechler (71 ovr)
• Andy Lee (71 OVR)
• Tim Masthay (69 OVR)

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EA's Top 10ish Players Thus Far:

• Aaron Rodgers (99 OVR)
• Rob Gronkowski (99 OVR)
• J.J. Watt (99 OVR)
• Marhsal Yanda (98 OVR)
• Tom Brady (97 OVR)
• Antonio Brown (97 OVR)
• Josh Sitton (97 OVR)
• Von Miller (97 OVR)
• Justin Houston (97 OVR)
• Richard Sherman (97 OVR)
• Darelle Revis (97 OVR)

FBG's Top 10ish Players Thus Far:

• J.J. Watt (99 OVR)
• Tamba Hali (99 OVR)
• Aaron Rodgers (94 OVR)
• Richard Sherman (94 OVR)
• Dez Bryant (89 OVR)
• Darelle Revis (89 OVR)
• Andrew Luck (86 OVR)
• Antonio Brown (85 OVR)
• Brandon Marshall (84 OVR)
• Demaryius Thomas (83 OVR)

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Last Edited: 8/2/2015

[steeldee7]

Please explain to me how cam Thomas is rated higher than Cam Heyward on your site. Dying to here this.

[DeuceDouglas]

Being that overalls don't really mean anything or say much, I think you'd be better off comparing the actual attributes that the Madden ratings give out rather than just the overall.

[DCEBB2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by steeldee7

Please explain to me how cam Thomas is rated higher than Cam Heyward on your site. Dying to here this.

Heyward is on an injury hold for an ankle injury going back to August of last year. It affected him throughout the season, and he even blasted the Browns in an interview for targeting it with chop blocks. I'm sure the hold will be removed before the season. Keep in mind that most of these injury holds occur during the offseason and are removed when the players get back on the field. The issue is that these are real-time, so we all just have to deal with them until they get adjusted on the daily.

[DCEBB2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by DeuceDouglas

Being that overalls don't really mean anything or say much, I think you'd be better off comparing the actual attributes that the Madden ratings give out rather than just the overall.

Well, I can't give out attributes yet, but I can give out grades. Anything in particular you want to know?

[CM Hooe]

As to help curtail confusion, because I think that misunderstanding has been a significant source of contention over the course of the past couple ratings threads, I'd like to provide anyone who is unfamiliar with FBGratings a brief description of what Dan does (and I'm not affiliated with FBGratings at all, so please correct me Dan if I'm speaking out of turn or wrong about any of the below):

Dan has access to real-world professional football player scouting reports, the same reports which are used by NFL teams. These real-world reports contain numerical grades on various skills for each player. Using a series of algorithms he has personally developed, he directly translates these reports into Madden NFL player ratings for every player for which he receives information.

Dan does not decide any number grade on his own, he does not modify at all any results of the interpolation his formulas compute regardless of player statistics, accolades, awards, or his own personal opinion. A player's ratings only change when the scouting report he receives for that player changes.

[iLLWiLL]

DB, are you waiting to update ratings on your website? I see that Tom Brady is rated a 98 on your site, but in this thread he is not even in your top 6 ...

[PhillyPhanatic14]

Having Flacco rated anywhere near that high is absurd and kind of makes me think these ratings are a joke. We call out EA when they do ridiculous things and I think we all need to be honest that these ratings are very flawed as well when Joe Flacco is rated as the number 3 or 4 QB in the NFL. He might not even be that high in college football...