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SkyWalker · 12-11-2015, 08:19 PM

Honestly, I feel like playing 4-3 players in a 3-4 and vice versa means nothing. I run a 3-4 defense in my online 32 player CFM (pretty stiff competition). We are in our second year and I have Aaron Donald at RE, Leonard Williams at DT, and Dante fowler at LE. Even though Fowler has only 73 strength, he still manages to get many sacks for me. He's currently a 95 OVR for me with 89 block shed, 87 finesse, 90 power move, and 82 play rec. I managed to lead the league in best defense with fewest rushing yards allowed and top 5 with fewest passing yards. I just don't see use of trying to get players that are made for your scheme as long as your players have either good power move or finesse, block shed, play rec, and or awareness. I've never noticed a difference in playing with the correct players in my scheme versus playing with someone that's not made for my scheme.

What do you guys think?

tru11 · 12-12-2015, 06:18 AM

it does not mean a thing

burnum · 12-12-2015, 07:57 AM

The strength rating is hugely undervalued in OL/DL interaction. Those 250 lbs DEs should get pancaked all over the place if they play as 3-4 DE.

xFrenZy · 12-12-2015, 09:36 AM

Yes I could see your point in that it doesn't mak a difference. Whih the above post your right beause strength plays basically no role. If it did you wouldntbe able to get away with a 250-260 pound end tearing guys up.

ggsimmonds · 12-12-2015, 11:54 AM

Strength does matter but it is only part of the equation. The low strength is unfortunately offset by the other attributes.

What settings does your CFM use? I noticed that when I put low strength guys at DT they frequently get pushed back in the run game.

Senator Palmer · 12-12-2015, 03:28 PM

The strength rating will modify the effectiveness of Power Moves and give a boost for the Block Shed rating on defense.

Potatoes002 · 12-12-2015, 05:47 PM

Strength affects the push the lineman get. High strength O-Line push the D-line up-field, with low strength it's the opposite. Not sure what some of you guy's are seeing, strength definitely matters in the trenches.

If you just have good strength but low power-move, you will get a push on the O-lineman but you won't necessarily get around him. Same with high strength/low pass block...you will get a push against the defense but still be able to let him by you.

Potatoes002 · 12-12-2015, 05:51 PM

For a 3-4 scheme you ideally want high strength/high blockshed/high power-move D-lineman. You want them to take on double teams (and get around them with the power-move/strength combo) and have your LB's, that if you disguised/called correctly, should have a free run into the backfield. 3-4 play calling requires more deception and audibling than a 4-3 scheme to properly work.

12-11-2015, 08:19 PM	#1
SkyWalker Rookie OVR: 0 Join Date: Dec 2010	Playing 4-3 players in 3-4 scheme Honestly, I feel like playing 4-3 players in a 3-4 and vice versa means nothing. I run a 3-4 defense in my online 32 player CFM (pretty stiff competition). We are in our second year and I have Aaron Donald at RE, Leonard Williams at DT, and Dante fowler at LE. Even though Fowler has only 73 strength, he still manages to get many sacks for me. He's currently a 95 OVR for me with 89 block shed, 87 finesse, 90 power move, and 82 play rec. I managed to lead the league in best defense with fewest rushing yards allowed and top 5 with fewest passing yards. I just don't see use of trying to get players that are made for your scheme as long as your players have either good power move or finesse, block shed, play rec, and or awareness. I've never noticed a difference in playing with the correct players in my scheme versus playing with someone that's not made for my scheme. What do you guys think? Robo COP likes this.

12-12-2015, 06:18 AM	#2
tru11 MVP OVR: 0 Join Date: Aug 2010	Re: Playing 4-3 players in 3-4 scheme it does not mean a thing

12-12-2015, 07:57 AM	#3
burnum Pro OVR: 0 Join Date: Nov 2010	Re: Playing 4-3 players in 3-4 scheme The strength rating is hugely undervalued in OL/DL interaction. Those 250 lbs DEs should get pancaked all over the place if they play as 3-4 DE. __________________ My Miami Dolphins HC 09 dynasty: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ns-career.html

12-12-2015, 09:36 AM	#4
xFrenZy Rookie OVR: 1 Join Date: Jun 2008 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Playing 4-3 players in 3-4 scheme Yes I could see your point in that it doesn't mak a difference. Whih the above post your right beause strength plays basically no role. If it did you wouldntbe able to get away with a 250-260 pound end tearing guys up.

12-12-2015, 11:54 AM	#5
ggsimmonds Hall Of Fame OVR: 7 Join Date: Jan 2009	Re: Playing 4-3 players in 3-4 scheme Strength does matter but it is only part of the equation. The low strength is unfortunately offset by the other attributes. What settings does your CFM use? I noticed that when I put low strength guys at DT they frequently get pushed back in the run game. jfsolo and Senator Palmer like this.

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12-12-2015, 03:28 PM	#6
Senator Palmer MVP OVR: 18 Join Date: Jul 2008	Re: Playing 4-3 players in 3-4 scheme The strength rating will modify the effectiveness of Power Moves and give a boost for the Block Shed rating on defense. jfsolo likes this. __________________ "A man can only be beaten in two ways: if he gives up, or if he dies."

12-12-2015, 05:47 PM	#7
Potatoes002 MVP OVR: 20 Join Date: Jul 2008	Re: Playing 4-3 players in 3-4 scheme Strength affects the push the lineman get. High strength O-Line push the D-line up-field, with low strength it's the opposite. Not sure what some of you guy's are seeing, strength definitely matters in the trenches. If you just have good strength but low power-move, you will get a push on the O-lineman but you won't necessarily get around him. Same with high strength/low pass block...you will get a push against the defense but still be able to let him by you. NEOPARADIGM and jfsolo like this.

12-12-2015, 05:51 PM	#8
Potatoes002 MVP OVR: 20 Join Date: Jul 2008	Re: Playing 4-3 players in 3-4 scheme For a 3-4 scheme you ideally want high strength/high blockshed/high power-move D-lineman. You want them to take on double teams (and get around them with the power-move/strength combo) and have your LB's, that if you disguised/called correctly, should have a free run into the backfield. 3-4 play calling requires more deception and audibling than a 4-3 scheme to properly work.

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