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  • swanton
    Rookie
    • Mar 2009
    • 65

    #1

    Hitting too many homeruns.

    I play on Veteran hitting and find myself hitting way more homeruns then base hits. It should be noted that I'm playing as the Braves so we all know this shouldn't be happening.

    I was wondering which sliders I could adjust to make more base hits opposed to homeruns. Thanks.
  • Cycloniac
    Man, myth, legend.
    • May 2009
    • 6504

    #2
    Re: Hitting too many homeruns.

    Originally posted by swanton
    I play on Veteran hitting and find myself hitting way more homeruns then base hits. It should be noted that I'm playing as the Braves so we all know this shouldn't be happening.

    I was wondering which sliders I could adjust to make more base hits opposed to homeruns. Thanks.
    Lower power, to start.

    If you're not getting enough hits, raise contact.

    If you're not getting enough doubles or tripples, raise solid hits.
    THE TrueSim PROJECTS



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    • Rufio2031
      Rookie
      • Aug 2010
      • 106

      #3
      Re: Hitting too many homeruns.

      Yeah it's hard to determine from your post whether you're not getting hits in general or if you're getting hits but more homeruns than normal hits.

      If you're not getting a whole lot of hits in general, I would follow Cycloniac's advice.

      If you are getting a bunch of hits, I would start with just lowering contact. If you find yourself getting normal amount of hits but still pounding the ball I would then start lowering power. By paying attention to your results, you can also determine whether or not you need to adjust your solid hits.

      Remember to use as big of a test case as you can. Meaning don't change after every single game. I started my season with 5 homeruns and 12 hits and thought I needed to make some adjustments. But I didn't. After 10 games I was in dead last in BA, OBP, and Runs. By a lot...


      Cycloniac...Collegeville? I grew up in St. Cloud.

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      • Cycloniac
        Man, myth, legend.
        • May 2009
        • 6504

        #4
        Re: Hitting too many homeruns.

        Originally posted by Rufio2031
        Yeah it's hard to determine from your post whether you're not getting hits in general or if you're getting hits but more homeruns than normal hits.

        If you're not getting a whole lot of hits in general, I would follow Cycloniac's advice.

        If you are getting a bunch of hits, I would start with just lowering contact. If you find yourself getting normal amount of hits but still pounding the ball I would then start lowering power. By paying attention to your results, you can also determine whether or not you need to adjust your solid hits.

        Remember to use as big of a test case as you can. Meaning don't change after every single game. I started my season with 5 homeruns and 12 hits and thought I needed to make some adjustments. But I didn't. After 10 games I was in dead last in BA, OBP, and Runs. By a lot...


        Cycloniac...Collegeville? I grew up in St. Cloud.
        That's awesome!

        Twenty minutes away
        THE TrueSim PROJECTS



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        • swanton
          Rookie
          • Mar 2009
          • 65

          #5
          Re: Hitting too many homeruns.

          Thanks guys!

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          • citrus87
            Just started!
            • Jun 2016
            • 3

            #6
            Re: Hitting too many homeruns.

            Yea I have the same problem I had 55 HR as a team in the beginning of second month of season..so I lowered the hit power and raised the solid hits and foul frequency..hopefully this helps me out

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            • CoachModer
              Rookie
              • Jul 2013
              • 253

              #7
              Re: Hitting too many homeruns.

              Take a look at my slider set True Game MLB Slider...I am the Orioles and am currently hitting an average of 1.42 HR a game, the real life O's are hitting 1.54 HR a game. HR is right on point with the rest of my league as well. I believe I lead Toronto 170 to 165. We have been back and forth all year. What's I interesting is that B-more has a 5 HR lead over Toronto in real life as well.


              Adding my slider modifications has added value and realism to the game and involves no slider chasing throughout the season. Take look and see what you think. If you want any other data Swanton. I based my sliders on data I collected on stats between 2000 to 2016 and tried to get my numbers for my league around the same in real life and where we cannot mirror them I believe I have gotten as close as I could and it presents a challenge each game.


              Coach

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              • scrubs70
                Banned
                • Jun 2016
                • 51

                #8
                Re: Hitting too many homeruns.

                Originally posted by swanton
                I play on Veteran hitting and find myself hitting way more homeruns then base hits. It should be noted that I'm playing as the Braves so we all know this shouldn't be happening.

                I was wondering which sliders I could adjust to make more base hits opposed to homeruns. Thanks.
                I believe that Solid Hits should never be above 2 or 3.
                Set Contact, Power, Timing at 6 and Foul Frequency at 2.
                All-Star w/ Quick Counts.

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                • Cycloniac
                  Man, myth, legend.
                  • May 2009
                  • 6504

                  #9
                  Re: Hitting too many homeruns.

                  Originally posted by scrubs70
                  I believe that Solid Hits should never be above 2 or 3.
                  Set Contact, Power, Timing at 6 and Foul Frequency at 2.
                  All-Star w/ Quick Counts.
                  Why solid hits so low?
                  THE TrueSim PROJECTS



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                  • scrubs70
                    Banned
                    • Jun 2016
                    • 51

                    #10
                    Re: Hitting too many homeruns.

                    Originally posted by Cycloniac
                    Why solid hits so low?
                    because you will see better hit variety. I have even given up four consecutive home-runs to the cpu with those settings. and the game before, I had no-hit that same team. for real. I guess I could post my sliders in the forum. I have to write them down first.

                    I have given up as much as like 15-runs in some games. You will still see cpu scoring runs. I also suggest classic pitching if you want authentic results. that way, you get walks and runs are scored much more than just by HR's.

                    when I see solid hits at 7 or other high numbers, .... I cringe !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                    maybe I am wrong, as I have had solid hits low for years on this game.

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                    • Cycloniac
                      Man, myth, legend.
                      • May 2009
                      • 6504

                      #11
                      Re: Hitting too many homeruns.

                      Originally posted by scrubs70
                      because you will see better hit variety. I have even given up four consecutive home-runs to the cpu with those settings. and the game before, I had no-hit that same team. for real. I guess I could post my sliders in the forum. I have to write them down first.

                      I have given up as much as like 15-runs in some games. You will still see cpu scoring runs. I also suggest classic pitching if you want authentic results. that way, you get walks and runs are scored much more than just by HR's.

                      when I see solid hits at 7 or other high numbers, .... I cringe !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                      maybe I am wrong, as I have had solid hits low for years on this game.
                      I did the opposite of what it sounds like you did.

                      I raised solid hits but dropped power. Then, I had to tweak the picher's strike frequency and consistency in order to make them more reliable.

                      I too see a lot of hit variety (choppers, line drives, pop ups, fly outs, and about 1-1.5 HRs per game).
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                      • KBLover
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 12172

                        #12
                        Re: Hitting too many homeruns.

                        Originally posted by Cycloniac
                        I raised solid hits but dropped power.
                        I prefer this approach as well as it minimizes choppers and popups to realistic ranges in terms of the batted ball types in the BIP profile I was getting.

                        Lower, and I was routinely around 15%. Higher and now I'm between 0 and 10%, usually around 7-9%

                        It may make it easier to control BABIP by batted ball type since the trajectories are doing a little less of the determination (i.e. creating fewer auto-outs by rolling terrible trajectories too often) and it becomes more about hit placement, batted ball velocity, and fielder range.

                        I do play on Directional hitting if that matters. That alone introduces enough randomness since bat control is limited to my timing choices and influencing, if I use it. The rest is up to RNG, so I don't need wild RNG for batted ball trajectory on top of it.

                        I had a game in Coors Field where I scored 15 runs on 19 hits and 0 HR. 6 doubles and a triple along with 5 walks. My Red Sox team is leading in doubles but only Gallo is in the top 10 for HR in the AL (and he has doubles as well). My carryover Marlins squad has hit like 1 HR in 4 games, but can still score runs. Chris Davis even got a triple by hitting one off the CF wall at Marlin Park.
                        "Some people call it butterflies, but to him, it probably feels like pterodactyls in his stomach." --Plesac in MLB18

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                        • scrubs70
                          Banned
                          • Jun 2016
                          • 51

                          #13
                          Re: Hitting too many homeruns.

                          Originally posted by Cycloniac
                          I did the opposite of what it sounds like you did.

                          I raised solid hits but dropped power. Then, I had to tweak the picher's strike frequency and consistency in order to make them more reliable.

                          I too see a lot of hit variety (choppers, line drives, pop ups, fly outs, and about 1-1.5 HRs per game).
                          where is your solid hits slider right now ?

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                          • scrubs70
                            Banned
                            • Jun 2016
                            • 51

                            #14
                            Re: Hitting too many homeruns.

                            Originally posted by KBLover
                            I prefer this approach as well as it minimizes choppers and popups to realistic ranges in terms of the batted ball types in the BIP profile I was getting.

                            Lower, and I was routinely around 15%. Higher and now I'm between 0 and 10%, usually around 7-9%

                            It may make it easier to control BABIP by batted ball type since the trajectories are doing a little less of the determination (i.e. creating fewer auto-outs by rolling terrible trajectories too often) and it becomes more about hit placement, batted ball velocity, and fielder range.

                            I do play on Directional hitting if that matters. That alone introduces enough randomness since bat control is limited to my timing choices and influencing, if I use it. The rest is up to RNG, so I don't need wild RNG for batted ball trajectory on top of it.

                            I had a game in Coors Field where I scored 15 runs on 19 hits and 0 HR. 6 doubles and a triple along with 5 walks. My Red Sox team is leading in doubles but only Gallo is in the top 10 for HR in the AL (and he has doubles as well). My carryover Marlins squad has hit like 1 HR in 4 games, but can still score runs. Chris Davis even got a triple by hitting one off the CF wall at Marlin Park.
                            what combo of batter sliders do you use ?
                            and where-in may we view BABIP in MLB 16 ?

                            thanks

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                            • CoachModer
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 253

                              #15
                              Re: Hitting too many homeruns.

                              Originally posted by scrubs70
                              I believe that Solid Hits should never be above 2 or 3.
                              Set Contact, Power, Timing at 6 and Foul Frequency at 2.
                              All-Star w/ Quick Counts.
                              I agree on the solid hit part. However, I use 4 and it seems to provide a good balance, though I have had games were the modifier that I receive makes solid hits a 3 and I still have okay games. Solid hits for the CPU 5 or higher becomes questionable because it seems like they hit every thing well, regardless of where you have the contact, power, or timing slider set.


                              With my slider set I am averaging @ 8.6 hits per game over my last 20 games or so. I believe without looking again that the MLB average is currently 8.7 hits per game, Boston has the highest and averages 10.3 hits per game where I am batting right around .240, my season average is .234.


                              Solid hits though plays a key role, but I find that 4 has provided a good balance and realistic results.

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