The NHL 18 team has made some changes to the player overall ratings this year, making...
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Very good news! It was about time! More separation in player ratings was a must, so I'm really happy that it was finally integrated. I only hope though that the players differentiation will also be felt on the ice and not only showed on paper in the ratings. -
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Good stuff. I was getting close to finishing the NHL player ratings for the Revamped Rosters, but now I'll have to make some adjustments. I have a feeling the overall formulas will be different this year, so hopefully someone can figure them out.
But I agree with Al_Tito - I hope we are able to feel the differences on the ice. I want to notice the difference when my 4th line is out there vs. my 1st line.
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Exactly. The biggest thing to me is when I'm Crosby or McDavid, I want to feel like them on the ice and that they are a threat any time I have the puck with them. In the past when I've been Ovechkin for example, he's just felt like any other player.
Let's see if they finally nailed it this year. I honestly don't really remember feeling it in the beta, but we will see.Comment
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I think the reason players feel bland is because the ratings are too similar within each section. I think strengths and weaknesses need to be more distinct -- based on real data and scouting/reputation -- to give players more character.
It shouldn't be uncommon to see a player with a good wrister, but weak slapper (Kessel) or vice versa (a lot of D-men). Nor should a player almost always have passing, puck control, and deking be the same. For me, many NHL-level defensemen today merit something like an 80-85 passing rating, but more like 75-80 control and 65-70 deking. And when it comes to awareness and defensive ratings, let's see long-time cagey vets with high AWR ratings -- and young players with lower ones (that improve over their career), particularly on DEF AWR. Drafted a slick, skilled rookie you want to play in NHL at 18? Better watch his minutes with his 60 DEF AWR, not to mention 65 STR & 70 END.
As for skating, while I can see having a fairly narrow range of ratings at the NHL level, you can still give the players more unique feel by varying the ACC/AGL/BAL ratings within those 20 or so points (75-95). Yeah, if 80 is average NHL speed, many players will be 80-85. But a PWF-type with 85SPD/75ACC/75AGL/90BAL will feel a lot different than a smaller, quicker guy with 85SPD/90ACC/80AGL/75BAL. Then try controlling McDavid with 95SPD/95ACC/90AGL/80BAL. Really, I could do this all day...
Anyway, the ratings brackets are encouraging and should help somewhat with franchise issues. But until there are more apparent strengths & weaknesses within the individual ratings, players will continue to feel too similar.Comment
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It's a good and unexpected start. Enjoyed NHL 17 for all its warts, and actually like TPS
. Looking forward to 18.
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Agreed. This is shaping up to be an improved version of 17, which is fine with me. Hopefully concepts such as player rating and separation bear fruit and aren't just advertised features that don't really impact gameplay.www.heyimbill.com | sports poster art and other cool stuffComment
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Well said Qb. I'll give this game a try this year, but I'm also looking forward to NHL 19 with the frostbite engine. Lets hope EA gets it right.Comment
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It will be interesting to see indeed, but it does appear there is a concerted effort to go in a direction of differentiation between this, the difference in player skill I felt in the beta, and drafted players having a more realistic spread of ratings.
I wonder what the overalls for ECHL and junior players will look like. I wonder if we'll finally have a spread in Jr hockey ranging from high 70's-80's (nhl ready) and 40 overalls. I've always found the CHL is a great place to test ratings differentiation using teams stacked with higher end players on their top line.Comment
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Yeah, I'm currently playing a season in the WHL as the Seattle Thunderbirds, there's a bit more diversity in talent in that league. Scoring is difficult (for me), lots of shots go wide, especially with manual shooting. I'm getting lots of 2-1 results, which is great. Scoring four in a game is a rarity.
Qeustion though: Isn't there already a player separation slider to increase the ability levels between high/low rated players? Has anyone tried cranking this up to its fullest to see if it makes any difference?www.heyimbill.com | sports poster art and other cool stuffComment
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those ratings are good, I just hold out hope, that's it really noticeable. am really fascinated by this move, least its start in right direction. anyone else excited by this ?
, cause I am!. it might just play brilliant this time.
first thing am gonna do is roll out the be a pro goalie and slider and franchises setting for NHL 18. when I get my copy on September 15th.
Just hope!, I don't have to put bigger players on front lines this time, I was really upset when I had to move bigger player on the front lines.
With these ratings... I might just be able to do balance thing, like one or two big guys and 1 small guy or 2 small guys, for speed kinda like pittsburgh penguins, then... I add one gimungous player between 6'3 and 6'4.
anyways am excited !
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Very good news for the series. At least they're finally acknowledging some of the problems with their ratings.
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Updated story w/ more overall player ratings and screenshots.Comment
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