Re: Gridiron Champions Has a Release Date, College Football Returns in 2020
Re: Gridiron Champions Has a Release Date, College Football Returns in 2020
I'm fine with this being fictional schools as long as it plays well and the Dynasty Mode is what I want in a college game. It is going to be hard to pull that off though. I did back them early on so I'll have a copy either way.
But while I'm excited for their effort, I'm very cautiously optimistic. I didn't mind supporting their efforts since I wanted some form of College football game. I still am happy I did and that this appears to be actually happening.
Re: Gridiron Champions Has a Release Date, College Football Returns in 2020
Re: Gridiron Champions Has a Release Date, College Football Returns in 2020
You may recall the various lawsuits with the NCAA and the end of college sports games. Without the framework to compensate athletes an with how wide ranging the court decisions were — it is quite unlikely a developer will be able to get away with a customizable game with real names of players and logos being possible.
Pretty sure the reason that EA got in trouble with the NCAA was because they were legitimately ripping off player likenesses in the release version of their games. For example, they actually had a #15 QB for Florida who was exactly like Tim Tebow in every way. The same thing happened with Ed O'Bannon on a UCLA All-Time team. It had nothing to do with the player editor. If it did then NBA 2k would be getting sued by Charles Barkley for all the times he's been created by users, the same goes with all the college teams that have been made. I don't see why this game can't have full customization as long as nobody is making any money off of what the users create.
Re: Gridiron Champions Has a Release Date, College Football Returns in 2020
Re: Gridiron Champions Has a Release Date, College Football Returns in 2020
Originally posted by BA2929
Pretty sure the reason that EA got in trouble with the NCAA was because they were legitimately ripping off player likenesses in the release version of their games. For example, they actually had a #15 QB for Florida who was exactly like Tim Tebow in every way. The same thing happened with Ed O'Bannon on a UCLA All-Time team. It had nothing to do with the player editor. If it did then NBA 2k would be getting sued by Charles Barkley for all the times he's been created by users, the same goes with all the college teams that have been made. I don't see why this game can't have full customization as long as nobody is making any money off of what the users create.
Looks like you will be able to play as Kansas, UCLA and others ... but probably not with any players based on actual college athletes.
This was as of 2k16, I don't know how many more licenses 2k has paid for:
A records search with the Collegiate Licensing Company found 2K Sports has a license to make video games for the following schools: Arizona, Arizona State, Connecticut, Georgetown, Kansas, Louisville, Michigan, Texas, UCLA, Villanova and Wisconsin. These programs have been confirmed.
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2K has indeed gotten the licenses to at least 10 college teams & will have college basketball.
That is the reason why, the licenses have been bought and paid for.
Re: Gridiron Champions Has a Release Date, College Football Returns in 2020
Re: Gridiron Champions Has a Release Date, College Football Returns in 2020
It doesn't debunk anything, Axis football does not have an NCAA license and you can download every college team. They were created by the fans and I haven't seen any problems for them.
Re: Gridiron Champions Has a Release Date, College Football Returns in 2020
Re: Gridiron Champions Has a Release Date, College Football Returns in 2020
Originally posted by jahswill
It doesn't debunk anything, Axis football does not have an NCAA license and you can download every college team. They were created by the fans and I haven't seen any problems for them.
It debunks the theory regarding 2k, which is what I was responding to. All I am saying on that is people can't go around claiming 2k get's away with it, so, anyone else can.
Plus, we don't know if the NCAA has their eyes on Axis or not now or in the future.
Re: Gridiron Champions Has a Release Date, College Football Returns in 2020
Re: Gridiron Champions Has a Release Date, College Football Returns in 2020
Originally posted by jahswill
It doesn't debunk anything, Axis football does not have an NCAA license and you can download every college team. They were created by the fans and I haven't seen any problems for them.
Re: Gridiron Champions Has a Release Date, College Football Returns in 2020
Re: Gridiron Champions Has a Release Date, College Football Returns in 2020
Originally posted by roadman
It debunks the theory regarding 2k, which is what I was responding to. All I am saying on that is people can't go around claiming 2k get's away with it, so, anyone else can.
Plus, we don't know if the NCAA has their eyes on Axis or not now or in the future.
2K used those licensed schools as part of their in box game, with their career mode. They aren't user created teams. They're directly profiting off of their inclusion, and representing them with the actual likeness of the institution. That's not the same thing.
Re: Gridiron Champions Has a Release Date, College Football Returns in 2020
Re: Gridiron Champions Has a Release Date, College Football Returns in 2020
Originally posted by jyod21
2K used those licensed schools as part of their in box game, with their career mode. They aren't user created teams. They're directly profiting off of their inclusion, and representing them with the actual likeness of the institution. That's not the same thing.
That is a good point, too, all I was responding to was that 2k has college teams in their game and they paid for it.
Re: Gridiron Champions Has a Release Date, College Football Returns in 2020
I too "Invested" early on and will be receiving a copy..I would like to be able to see these community mods be able to work in the real school names if not logos as well... For me, there is no better immersion into a dynasty in NCAA than being as true to life with every aspect from the stadiums, to conferences, and styles of play for individual teams... This being said, looks like my 360 will continue to get a workout until 2020.
Hoping for great things...
Re: Gridiron Champions Has a Release Date, College Football Returns in 2020
the great news is that I gonna be on pc so we gonna probably get tons of mods for the game to make the game with official NCAA even maybe the official stadiums as happened with old FIFA and pes
Re: Gridiron Champions Has a Release Date, College Football Returns in 2020
Re: Gridiron Champions Has a Release Date, College Football Returns in 2020
I don't believe there would be complications (other than cost) with licensing the actual colleges/logos. That should be easy. It is the players that cannot be legally used (or licensed for use) at this point. And, for me, that's fine. I'd be playing dynasty, so there would be fictional players taking over my universe in a couple seasons anyway.
Re: Gridiron Champions Has a Release Date, College Football Returns in 2020
Re: Gridiron Champions Has a Release Date, College Football Returns in 2020
I know some folks are very skeptical of this game, and with very good reasons. I "invested" in the game only for the shot at a college game. Am I expecting greatness with their first effort? No. Could I end up being pleasantly surprised? Of course.
But my reason for support was more about helping a vision and the hope of a college football game of some form. I started playing in the Bill Walsh days. Having a license is great but isn't as important to me. While I love the idea of the customization they are promising, I also won't have a problem playing the game with 100 percent fictional teams.
It stands within reason that this game will be noticed by the "big boys" of EA, 2K, etc. If they pull it off and have even moderate success, it could get things moving back in the right direction. Who knows? I always thought a generic "College Football USA" mode could work. And that's why I supported them.
I do understand anyone who didn't. And I honestly can't blame them. The support was on a chance that was indeed a long shot. But for now at least it looks as if we might get a college football game, even a generic one. And maybe after that a college basketball game.
To me it was important to support this startup because it could lead to things the big boys would never consider or dropped very quickly in the past. Maybe we'll see college baseball return. Maybe they'll be successful enough to go that route. Maybe the longtime dream I've had of a high school football game could become a reality. Maybe a fantasy pro game. (Non-NFL, NBA, MLB) Who knows what a successful launch for this title could mean.
I know sports gaming use to be huge with several different titles dedicated to the same league no less. I miss those days. I don't think we'll ever get back to them. But if my giving a little bit to a couple of guys to help move the needle leads to just a fun college football game, I'll be happy with my "investment."
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