The REAL Issue with Knees.

[RomeroXVII]

Now let me start this off with that knees in an MMA game should absolutely be viable. It'd be ridiculous to complain about 4-5 knees when people throw 50-100+ punches in a fight, which is also fine.

Before, the knees in the game were definitely too strong. When in the combo list, they're obviously faster like how punches and kicks in the combo list are faster, but before the long term stamina damage from knees was RIDICULOUS and you couldn't catch it + lunging tracking issues made things even more difficult.

However, fighting a couple of fights I saw a few things that raised my eyebrow and I thought: What are the odds that there's some kind of bug that has knees at the wrong range?

Before, elbows didn't land at their proper range + hooks would always land even if you timed the pull and were occasionally registered as straight strikes, so it wouldn't surprise me if this was the case here.

I asked GPD about that possibility and word for word this is what he said:

'knees should have the same range as elbows
so less than punch range
unless they are fwd moving
then they'd be punch range
they should never land from kick range'

Well, I decided to test this out and:

https://twitter.com/ARomeroXVII/stat...515967492?s=19


There you go.

If there's any final request I'd ask for with regards to striking ranges in a tuner since patches can't be done due to focus being on the next game, if the moving lateral body kicks can't be fixed then at LEAST try to see if knees can be put in their PROPER range.

[Evil97]

I hate how they hit me in the face when I do a slip straight It makes since, but kind of throws off the whole straight vs round meta.

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[rabbitfistssaipailo]

I've said enough about knees in this game. One can only hope and pray at this point.

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[RomeroXVII]

Quote: Originally Posted by Evil97

I hate how they hit me in the face when I do a slip straight It makes since, but kind of throws off the whole straight vs round meta. Sent from my SM-N960U using Operation Sports mobile app

Quote: Originally Posted by rabbitfistssaipailo

I've said enough about knees in this game. One can only hope and pray at this point. Sent from my Infinix X604 using Operation Sports mobile app

Yeah Body knees should only hit the body. Edit: when both are neutral or if they're swaying their head to the side.

Let us pray for this Tuner, Geoff has responded on Twitter and said they can try to reduce the range to 0.5.

[That Ragdoll Guy]

About that "body knee should only hit the body"...

When somebody is going for a takedown or ducks down it should hit the face, cause the head is on knee level. Same with an overhand etc. Once the head is on knee level a body knee should always hit the head. (If its a good timed knee)

Not saying the elbow knee Spam isnt an issue but dont fix something just to break the game elsewhere.

[RomeroXVII]

Quote: Originally Posted by That Ragdoll Guy

About that "body knee should only hit the body"... When somebody is going for a takedown or ducks down it should hit the face, cause the head is on knee level. Same with an overhand etc. Once the head is on knee level a body knee should always hit the head. (If its a good timed knee) Not saying the elbow knee Spam isnt an issue but dont fix something just to break the game elsewhere.

I'm referring to when he's moving the head to the side and the body is vulnerable. The knee shouldn't dislodge and hit his head to the side UNLESS he moves laterally with the knee.

I get ducking knee knock outs plenty, of course it would be dumb to not allow that to happen if they duck into it.

[WarMMA]

I would also like if we could hit knees better on reaction. Like a knee hitting a guy shooting in seems more like luck in this game. I wanna be able to land a knee on reaction if I suspect a guy is gonna go for the td.

[RomeroXVII]

Quote: Originally Posted by WarMMA

I would also like if we could hit knees better on reaction. Like a knee hitting a guy shooting in seems more like luck in this game. I wanna be able to land a knee on reaction if I suspect a guy is gonna go for the td.

The only ones you can really go for on reaction are the open space TDs. It's definitely luck for a knee against somebody going for the driving TD, because once the animation starts it almost locks you immediately to defending it.