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We've all seen the service academies go HAM after a few years in a dynasty and that is now the case in mine at least with Navy... I've seen on here some tips for keeping them out of the top 10 but cannot remember them and can't find through search.
The trick I've found is to nerf their QB ratings. When you look at it, they are always unrealistically rated for a service school in the passing department. So just go into each QB and put their throw power at 60, and their accuracy at 40. It reflects in sim. Instead of them going 5/7 for 2 TDs and 150 yards or something, it usually comes out to 3/7 for under 100. And optionally along with that, nerf their WRs.
It doesn't completely kill the programs, I still see them get ranked here and there in the 20-25 range on a good season, but it also keeps them from being the classic world beaters that occurs if you don't make the QB edits.
One other thing you can do that I haven’t seen on here is to make sure none of their players have redshirted. In real life, the service academies don’t redshirt players and all players get just the 4 years, not up to 5.
Just see if there are any (R)Fr ... and (R)So/(R)Jr, but if you do this every year then you should only need to worry about the freshman.... and edit the redshirt to none and add one for the year. So a (R)Fr becomes a So. I can’t remember if you can do this in game, but you can definitely do it in the editor.
This will give Air Force, Army, and Navy’s players one less season of progressions, which, while not a world changer, will help keep their OVRs at bay.
There’s also something on the forums here about placing these schools on “sanctions” in the editor, which will decide their number of scholarships. I’ve seen a lot of people that haven’t been able to get this to work, and I haven’t tested it myself, but there’s another potential solution.
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One thing i do is if you use the editor is keep them as a 1 star program. It keeps them from landing 4 and 5 stars even if they have a good year or two
I have seen had the same issues with the service academies over the course of multiple dynasties and have been tinkering with how to tone down their winning ways also.
The main thing that I do is edit their committed recruits at the end of the season. In one dynasty, I simply went into the editor and changed all of their recruit commits to their respective #2 or #3 choice (as long as it was not another service academy). This ended up having the desired effect, but what I noticed is that at some point, some high level coach (level 35 or higher) would land as the HC or OC or DC. The teams would suck, never going to a bowl game and the coaches would then get fired right out of the game. Since I was trying to keep most of the high level coaches in the game to make it more challenging, this was an unintended consequence.
Currently I am doing something similar. I will look at the recruiting reports at the end of the year (but before moving to coaching changes) and let the service academies keep all 2* and under recruits, and any recruits 3* and above will get changed to commit to their #2 or #3 choice (again, as long as it's not another service academy). Along with making sure the coaches playbooks are not option based, after 4 seasons, this strategy has worked out quite well.
So far what I have seen from this method is that Army, Navy, and Air Force will still land an occasional 4* or 5* player during the off season since I wiped out most of their committed recruits. They will also land more transfers from other schools who would not normally transfer there because they only landed 6 or 8 players during the recruiting cycle. So, I end up nerfing the 4* and 5* players' (and the transfers) stats who show up on their rosters at the beginning of next season to keep them from blowing up. I have also been editing their school ratings to keep them at a 1* level, but they seem to still attract 3* and above players. It seems to be based on the HC's recruiting rank, but it's hard to keep those type of coaches from landing there from time to time, unless you wanted to go into the editor and swap them with other, lower level coaches.
Either way, it is a fair amount of work to put in each season, just to keep them in check. Until a better way is found, it seems like this is waht we have to work with.
If you're moving high-star recruits away from the service academies and toward their second or third choice, couldn't you re-assign recruits to take their place? If a two- or one-star recruit signed with a different school, but had a service academy finish second in the recruiting process, you could move those recruits to the service academies. It might limit the amount of transfers you see coming into the programs.
You might even be able to assign unsigned recruits to the service academies.
I nerfed their recruiting attributes and changed their playbooks to the FCS ones. Its been great.
Originally posted by Balldude777
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If you're moving high-star recruits away from the service academies and toward their second or third choice, couldn't you re-assign recruits to take their place? If a two- or one-star recruit signed with a different school, but had a service academy finish second in the recruiting process, you could move those recruits to the service academies. It might limit the amount of transfers you see coming into the programs.
You might even be able to assign unsigned recruits to the service academies.
I haven't tried it, but it might be worth a shot.
I never thought to try that before. My original theory was that the service academies would fill their empty roster spots with walk on players, since they are typically worse than even a 1* player. It does seem to happen, but maybe not enough to fill the holes on their roster.
I will definitely try this as it might stop or limit the transfers and the occasional wtf 4 or 5* getting signed because their roster needs are met.
Trying out a new idea to completely nerf these teams.. I turned every player on their rosters into seniors. Hoping it will fill out with walk ons and the few recruits they're able to get.
Thought I'd share. Sick of these teams being a power house after a few years.
Last edited by Rondo is GOD; 12-30-2020, 11:56 PM.
Originally posted by Balldude777
In this case the lasagna restaurant started selling candy to kids and that became the best revenue stream so they’ve let the lasagna get worse and focused on becoming a candy store. The problem is this restaurant bought the rights to make lasagna so if we want lasagna we can only go to this place.
If your goal is realism, reassigning their commitments and recruiting stats to give them worse classes is your best bet.
You can change their playbooks. They’ll be good sometimes but they won’t be overpowered due to the option offense.
You can manually edit their players and make them worse. Specifically their quarterbacks and receivers. Take their awareness and accuracy down 20 points.
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