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Old 12-26-2020, 10:10 PM   #1
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The Uriah Hall Problem

So if you've been on these boards at all in the past few months, you've probably seen me complain about Uriah Hall's likeness in EA UFC 4. Whether it be his shorts, moves, or stats. There is a lot that's not quite right with Hall. I wanted to compile an updated version of all of the suggestions, references, and evidence into 1 thread.



Starting with...
-----SHORTS
For some reason in UFC 4 they gave Uriah Hall the wrong shorts. In all the prior games he had on the Muay Thai shorts, but for some reason they changed it to the long board shorts in this game. In real life hall mostly wears the Muay Thai, but will sometimes wear the Short Board Shorts also.


Almost every fight he's had in the UFC he wore the Muay Thai shorts.
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And the other times he wore something other than Muay Thai shorts, he wore the short board shorts.
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Hall actually hasn't worn long board shorts a single time in his last 11 fights. Not a single time in the last 6 years.





Next up is...
-----STATS
I just recently realized Uriah Hall's recovery is only 83 which is the worst in the division. And his chin at 86 is 2nd lowest in the division.
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He's only been finished 4 times though, by Costa, Brunson, Musasi, and Weidman.

-Costa is an absolute BEAST, and Hall was eating his shots for a while, and actually lighting Costa up tbh, until multiple low blows. Plus in the end, when Hall went down, it was on a body shot in that fight.

-Brunson was on a streak at the time of consecutive 1st round finishes, and has big big power in those windmills he throws. Hall got caught. But still got up immediately and protested the stoppage.

-Musasi is a multiple time world champion in multiple divisions and promotions. Hall also KOd Musasi with an insane devastating KO the 1st time they fought. Also, seriously worth considering is the fact Hall took the 2nd fight only 1 month after being KOd by Brunson, and without a full camp. This was also a TKO, after Musasi took Hall down, and the fight was stopped with punches on the ground, but Hall didn't actually get KOd here.

-Chris Weidman is also an ex champion, who at 1 point was legitimately considered one of the best ever. That was also very early in both of their careers, before either was even in the UFC yet.
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So that's only 3 KOs in the UFC, and 2 of them were only 1 month apart. None of them were Hall actually going unconscious. .


Then there's his fight with Thiago Santos...
Anyone remember his fight with Thiago Santos where he broke his toe in half, and continued to fight on for 2 more rounds, and beat a beast like Santos by unanimous decision, with his toe hanging off. Hall is tough as hell. And has shown incredible heart and grit.


At the end of the day, the wrong shorts are annoying, but the chin and recovery stats being so low make Hall an exercise in frustration trying to use online. It's basically not possible past a certain level of play. You basically have to play totally perfect, not get touched at all, and light your opponent up, because 1 wrong move and you're rocked, or put down. Very frustrating, when Hall doesn't actually have a history of being a glass cannon, or having a weak chin.



And ending things with...
-----MOVES & COMBOS
Uriah Hall is missing a few moves in his toolset here. Hall is known for his huge arsenal of strikes, but has a surprisingly limited moveset in UFC 4.


Question Mark Kick
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Rolling Thunder
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Heel Hook
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Heel Hook sub Full Mount
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And the combinations. Hall has some wild combinations.
A user named jdeckelmansr has already made a very detailed post showing examples of tons of wild combinations Uriah Hall throws, and a few other moves he's missing as well. IMO, he deserves higher than the lvl 2 traditional combos he currently has, and probably lvl 5 kickboxing combos as well.

Here is jdeckelmansr's post:
https://forums.operationsports.com/f...time-hall.html
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Old 12-27-2020, 01:48 AM   #2
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You should post this on discord too.
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Old 12-28-2020, 11:16 AM   #3
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You should post this on discord too.
I'm not on discord unfortunately.
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I'm not on discord unfortunately.
There are a lot more of those into likeness like you there- it's like how OS used to be. It could catch on and more people would back it.
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There are a lot more of those into likeness like you there- it's like how OS used to be. It could catch on and more people would back it.
Yeah, I don't even have the app downloaded. Im old. Lol
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Yeah, I don't even have the app downloaded. Im old. Lol
You should lol. You'd be surprised.

Looking only at OS you'd think only you and few others care about likeness. But on discord like half the suggestion box is likeness.

If you post your uriah hall suggestions there, people will get behind it.

The devs are also more active, especially some GCs.
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You should lol. You'd be surprised.

Looking only at OS you'd think only you and few others care about likeness. But on discord like half the suggestion box is likeness.

If you post your uriah hall suggestions there, people will get behind it.

The devs are also more active, especially some GCs.
I got the day off today, maybe Ill try to do that. Thanks for the suggestion!
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I got the day off today, maybe Ill try to do that. Thanks for the suggestion!
While you're at it, see if they might add Dong Hyun Kim back in the game.

That would be kewl.
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